John Barton
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Cuetec Could Look Real Bad
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John Barton said:
Cliff is the only guy i know who i have seen with about 5 different Meucci's over the years. It's almost like he just picks one off the pro shop rack, and starts playing with it. Like he can play with ANY meucci.
As for pool players buying cues because they are inspired by a pro.
Up in Scranton PA, i remember laughing one time like 14 years ago because out of like 30some local players that i saw at a tournament up there, i think that maybe all but 3 had Meuccis. I remember thinking that there must have been something in the water in that town, but it was soon brought to my attention that Mr. Jimmy Rempe was from scranton, and that HE played with a meucci.
I just shook my head and laughed.
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The Cuetec discussions always get mixed up because no one wants to break the discussion down between fiberglass, graphite, and wood.
Johnny Archer seems to be the only pro I've heard of that might actually play with a fiberglass wrapped shaft, and that's totally cool if that's the case, but I have a problem with is the way they have been positioning Allison Fisher's and Earl Strickland's names to cross sell fiberglass cues. This is so misleading and amounts to borderline fraud in my book. So as far as Cuetec looking bad because of this thing with Earl, well they have much bigger problems as far as I'm concerned
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Personally, as far as Cuetecs go, I think the typical SST fiberglass Cuetech with a phenolic tip added and a little drilling to lighten up the butt makes a pretty decent and indestructable break cue. Especially if you were suckered into buying a Cuetec at one point like me and want to make some use of it.
Johnny Archer seems to be the only pro I've heard of that might actually play with a fiberglass wrapped shaft, and that's totally cool if that's the case, but I have a problem with is the way they have been positioning Allison Fisher's and Earl Strickland's names to cross sell fiberglass cues. This is so misleading and amounts to borderline fraud in my book. So as far as Cuetec looking bad because of this thing with Earl, well they have much bigger problems as far as I'm concerned
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Personally, as far as Cuetecs go, I think the typical SST fiberglass Cuetech with a phenolic tip added and a little drilling to lighten up the butt makes a pretty decent and indestructable break cue. Especially if you were suckered into buying a Cuetec at one point like me and want to make some use of it.
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Sorry about two replies to the same post. My first reply disappeared when I tried to post. Now I see them both.
The truth can be very damaging depending on who says it, and how it is said. In this case it appears that it damaged Cuetec perhaps more than Earl. Chang felt airing the dirty linen was to his benefit and Cuetec's. The reaction here indicates otherwise. I don't know that every phrase he said was actually true broken down bit by bit. However it seems that the overall statement was generally true yet it may harm Earl and almost certainly has hurt Cuetec and the new distributor as there is the question of timing also.
It appears self-serving because it does place blame on Earl while making the claim that they have stood behind him in the past. Basically, "We have done all we could, it is all Earl's fault." True or false, they look like self-righteous whiners. Bad PR.
I suspect there may be a bit of a cultural gap. I find that there can be very different perceptions as to what is acceptable even when people from the far east have been here for decades. I suspect I would have equal or greater issues in their culture.
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Sorry about two replies to the same post. My first reply disappeared when I tried to post. Now I see them both.
The truth can be very damaging depending on who says it, and how it is said. In this case it appears that it damaged Cuetec perhaps more than Earl. Chang felt airing the dirty linen was to his benefit and Cuetec's. The reaction here indicates otherwise. I don't know that every phrase he said was actually true broken down bit by bit. However it seems that the overall statement was generally true yet it may harm Earl and almost certainly has hurt Cuetec and the new distributor as there is the question of timing also.
It appears self-serving because it does place blame on Earl while making the claim that they have stood behind him in the past. Basically, "We have done all we could, it is all Earl's fault." True or false, they look like self-righteous whiners. Bad PR.
I suspect there may be a bit of a cultural gap. I find that there can be very different perceptions as to what is acceptable even when people from the far east have been here for decades. I suspect I would have equal or greater issues in their culture.
Hu
John Barton said:
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rackem said:
Meucci shafts.
John Barton said:
Your wrong there John.
What Cuetec tried to do, (and did) was sell more sticks. They tried to develop products that would appeal to the public. They thought having EARL STRICKLAND plastered all over them would appeal to the public. (they were right!)
They didn't give a shit how they played.
Why do you think Earl was having to 'modify' his sticks? Wouldn't you think they would supply him with whatever he requested?? They didn't. If they wouldn't listen to him...they weren't trying too hard.
I'd go out on a limb and say he was the most demanding, and skillful player on the planet for 1/2 of those 17 years he was with them.
Earl put Cuetec on the map. If it wasn't for Earl playing them, you never would have even heard the word 'Cuetec' ever.
Sure Cuetec has pumped some cash into the pool world, some cash Earl made for them. Rightly so....
Rick S.
Now is the time for all good Americans to boycott Cuetec products.
The nerve of them, sucker-punching an American champion, a BCA Hall of Famer who was recently inducted last year, a professional pool player who for 17 years played with this metal POS twig, putting Cuetec's name on the map.
Boycott them, I say!
JAM
The nerve of them, sucker-punching an American champion, a BCA Hall of Famer who was recently inducted last year, a professional pool player who for 17 years played with this metal POS twig, putting Cuetec's name on the map.
Boycott them, I say!
JAM
I get what you are saying, but could you imagine the guy at Cuetech when he gets the call from Earl ?Rick S. said:
Earl: Hey, I need you to put 1.233432" of tape on the butt of your cues because that way my boxing glove doesn't slip off, and make 'em 57" long and put a 29" pro taper on the shafts and get me a case big enough for 12 shafts, elbow and knee pads, finger extensions, and a football helmet.
Cuetech Rep: ....CLICK
John Barton said:
I never considered buying a cue because a pro uses it, but the fact that Earl and Allison were playing with a cheap cue and winning did make an impression on me - that the cue is not that important. Not compared with talent, steady nerves, a certain kind of smarts, and dedicating the bulk of your young life to improving your skills. I still think that, and that's why I'll never buy another cue. I have no doubt that Efren could take the cue I use and win the DCC All-Around with it, like he just did with his cue.
But if he can do it with my cue, then why can't I? Well, lack of talent, unsteady nerves, the wrong kind of smarts, and I spent way too much time studying when I was a kid.
JAM said:
Jam.
I have been boycotting them for 17 yrs and it was no sacrifice at all...
Why boycott a company that might sponsor another American player?JAM said:
You talk about American players always getting screwed, well here is an opportunity for one to get a contract with a company that paid a guy for 17 years to play pool.
If the phone rings tommorow and Cuetech wants to give Keith all expenses paid and a monthly check for playing with their cue I bet it would be different.
As far as that goes, I think he would be a good guy to do it. Everybody likes him and he can still play great. Maybe you should see if that would work. I'm being very serious here.
And Cuetech cues are not metal.
JCIN said:
Because what this overseas company did to an American champion is disgusting.
JCIN said:
They paid a guy for 17 years because that guy happened to put their company on the map. Nobody would have ever even heard of Cuetec if it wasn't for Earl Strickland, and this is the thanks that he gets.
JCIN said:
Hell, no. It will never happen. Cuetec, as far as I'm concerned, is a branded company, and I, for one, will do everything in my power to spread the word about how they treated Earl Strickland, after 17 years of him having to play with their POS metal cue. Imagine how difficult it was to see his opponents warp in shots and split the wicket, while Earl had to struggle with this Cuetec POS.
Believe me, Cuetec got a hell of a lot more from Earl than Earl did from them.
JCIN said:
Fortunately for Keith, he has found himself an excellent American-made cue by Jack Madden. You know, the kind of cue stick that takes hundreds of hours to create, hand-made specifically to Keith's likes, a professional cue made in good old USA. Keith would rather fight than switch, I can assure you. He wouldn't play with a Cuetec for all the tea in China. Money can't buy everything, to include playing pool with a cue that cost 2 bucks to produce.
JAM
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oceanweb said:
Troy Frank won the first Derby City 9 Ball event in 1999 with a Cuetec. He beat an on form Efren and Rempe among others and was not sponsored by Cuetec at the time, he said that he just liked how the cue hit and played well with it (he no longer uses it but did at the time which shows that for him, it was not a trash stick)
When I started playing league, and I showed up with my McD and my free cuetec break cue, I had a guy tell me I should break with the McD and shoot with the cuetec.....
He has since seen the errors of his advice, and shoots with a viking, and breaks with the cuetec. Of course i still rib him about paying for a cuetec. There are several web sites that will just give them away when you buy a McD or a Viking or some other good quality production cue.
Although I no longer use it as my primary break stick, I have to say that the cuetec python really breaks well. Everyone who's ever used it to break with has liked it. I broke just fine with it, but the fiberglass shaft just doesn't feel right to me.
McCue Banger McCue
He has since seen the errors of his advice, and shoots with a viking, and breaks with the cuetec. Of course i still rib him about paying for a cuetec. There are several web sites that will just give them away when you buy a McD or a Viking or some other good quality production cue.Although I no longer use it as my primary break stick, I have to say that the cuetec python really breaks well. Everyone who's ever used it to break with has liked it. I broke just fine with it, but the fiberglass shaft just doesn't feel right to me.
McCue Banger McCue
I don't want to sound like a cuetech supporter but how is it A. Fisher is able to play at such a high level with a cuetech? Would she be even better with a different brand? I think we all know its the Player and not the stick. If Earl was doing a good job for them they wouldn't of fired him. I hope Earl does start playing better, but if he does, there will be other reasons and not the stick. Just my opinion.