Custom Cues: What's Hot, What's Not

UGOTDA7 said:
Guy, I hate to say it, but it seems that you are just plain stupid.

1. You lack the basic understanding of what slander is.

2. You started with the names in your first post discussing Shorty.

3. You said Shorty had committed slander. Slander is spoken communication, that never happened here, if anything it would be libel.

4. You said a lawyer said it was slander. Lawyers may be jackasses at times but they aren't stupid. A lawyer isn't going to tell you that something on an internet message board was slander when it was impossible for it to be so.

5. Unless a lawyer saw all of the facts surrounding an issue they certainly wouldn't render a judgment on it (at least a decent lawyer won't). And you want us to believe you discussed this particular issue with a lawyer? I don't believe that for a second based on the ignorance you continue to post.

6. For example, you posted some BS about Oprah as if this helped your point when you don't even know the facts of that case either.

It is clear that you tried to sound smart by spouting a bunch of BS because you happen to have talked to a lawyer/relative. As if that lends you some sort of credibility? Sorry guy, that isn't how it works. I hope you don't have any astronaut relatives, I would hate to hear your take on rocket science.

Now please read this before you post further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel



Look lil fella ....I posted the definitions, from a law firms web site about these type of law suits and yet you keep saying they are wrong, slander, libel, defamation, they all still make a person liable......this is my last post on this, you have got to be the most ignorant person I have come across.....I gave you the proof you needed and still you argue, and call me names , I mean wow , It must really be sad living your life.


I deleted all my posts by request, but feel free to continue on without me , because you obviously either didnt read all that I wrote or you couldnt understand the words, and you are clearly out manned with me in the conversation, so play by yourself for awhile you might actually get something accomplished :rolleyes: ..........you know they need to enforce the laws about quitting school a little more, because had you spent a lil more time in school and a lil less time in a pool room you might have understood what I was saying.

And about the Oprah thing I didnt post any details ....all I said was that I bet she regretted making the Comments......some people work for a living and dont have time to stay home with all the soap operas and girly talk shows to be able to Quote her word for word LOL


I will try to help you out though..... My wife was a professor for UK , I can see if she could pull some strings and get you some "book learning" HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ......JUST KIDDIN MAN .....so stop crying......


you have to admit that was funny.........come on now you can admit it , we are all friends here , nobody is going to judge you :D

SEND ME A PM , IF YOU WANT ME TO CHECK WITH THE COLLEGE :p :cool: ;)
 
Brickman said:
Look lil fella ....I posted the definitions, from a law firms web site about these type of law suits and yet you keep saying they are wrong, slander, libel, defamation, they all still make a person liable......this is my last post on this, you have got to be the most ignorant person I have come across.....I gave you the proof you needed and still you argue, and call me names , I mean wow , It must really be sad living your life.


I deleted all my posts by request, but feel free to continue on without me , because you obviously either didnt read all that I wrote or you couldnt understand the words, and you are clearly out manned with me in the conversation, so play by yourself for awhile you might actually get something accomplished :rolleyes: ..........you know they need to enforce the laws about quitting school a little more, because had you spent a lil more time in school and a lil less time in a pool room you might have understood what I was saying.

And about the Oprah thing I didnt post any details ....all I said was that I bet she regretted making the Comments......some people work for a living and dont have time to stay home with all the soap operas and girly talk shows to be able to Quote her word for word LOL


I will try to help you out though..... My wife was a professor for UK , I can see if she could pull some strings and get you some "book learning" HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ......JUST KIDDIN MAN .....so stop crying......


you have to admit that was funny.........come on now you can admit it , we are all friends here , nobody is going to judge you :D

SEND ME A PM , IF YOU WANT ME TO CHECK WITH THE COLLEGE :p :cool: ;)


I guess you missed the red text from the link above with the wording from the Supreme Court, you know, the supreme law of the land. Call me crazy, but I think that carries a little more weight than a law firm website.

I got all the school and book learnin' I need, at least my degree from VA. Tech back in 1992 says so. Thanks anyway.

You go ahead and keep believing what you like, it is obvious you will regardless of whatever facts / explanations are presented to you anyway. However, when you (or others based on your ignorant advice) try to sue somebody for libel / slander for expressing their opinion please let me know. I'm always available to watch a good comedy.

By the way, deleting posts is such a cop out, not just in your case, but everybody else's as well. If you can't stand behind it don't post it in the first place.
 
UGOTDA7 said:
I guess you missed the red text from the link above with the wording from the Supreme Court, you know, the supreme law of the land. Call me crazy, but I think that carries a little more weight than a law firm website.

I got all the school and book learnin' I need, at least my degree from VA. Tech back in 1992 says so. Thanks anyway.

You go ahead and keep believing what you like, it is obvious you will regardless of whatever facts / explanations are presented to you anyway. However, when you (or others based on your ignorant advice) try to sue somebody for libel / slander for expressing their opinion please let me know. I'm always available to watch a good comedy.

By the way, deleting posts is such a cop out, not just in your case, but everybody else's as well. If you can't stand behind it don't post it in the first place.

YOU ARE RIGHT I did miss that post in red.......it may not hold up in court who knows who care......My last post to you about the book learning was a joke and I said so ....I guess you didnt think it was funny HUH?

You are right anyone that wont stand behind their posts is a coward but , Blud asked me to delete and so I did.....dont believe me ask him, Look back through the post , he says I sent you a PM . Besides what wouldnt I stand behind.....all I did was repeat what the Lawyer told me , and what the website described as the definitions of the words ...defamation lible and slander,

Good luck to you .....and if the comedy of a law suit ever happens I will let you know so You can get some enjoyement, hows that for a start on us becoming good friends?

Now that I know you have some book learning, I will write you a PM or email every day , and we can be best buddies ..... and send each other christmas cards.....and take up for each other on the playground so nobody takes our lunch money........how does that sound to you.


IF YOU WANT TO BE MY FRIEND CIRCLE YES.....IF NOT CIRCLE NO


YES ------------------- NO



SINCE WE ARE FRIENDS NOW.... ARE YOU GOING TO ADMIT THAT SOME OF MY POSTS WERE FUNNY :D :cool: :p
 
ccn7 said:
just curious as to why the uni loc has become not so hot, i have a Lucasi with the uni loc and just got a 314 shaft for it i like it very much hits great,i used the standard lucasi shaft for my break shaft and and change of shafts is very fast i think it great. what is hot now.and why.i just play for fun and have fun playing


The thread was intended to share some observations of new custom cues being sold and traded at this time here on az and other websites such as ebay. I wouldn't put Predator cues or Lucasi in this category, because they are mass-produced. The uni-loc it seems, is not popular right now with custom cuemakers. Aside from Paul Drexler, I haven't seen too many custom cuemakers using this pin.
 
buddha162 said:
Now this is the funniest shit I've heard so far in this ridiculous thread.

Pharoah, you're missing a good one, lol.

-Roger (cutting both ways)

Almost, Buddha62...almost the funniest. I'd say this one is the funniest (don't sue me, OK?):

Brickman: "If you dont like what I posted then take it up with the law..."

He must be a public school 'A' student, trained to be a good little brown shirt. I didn't see the orginal post of his as he apparently keeps deleting them (I imagine he's worried about being sued...lol).

This thread was making my day. :cool: But then I realized there are really people out there who would gleefully use gun-backed violence to shut up their critics. :(

Jeff Livingston
 
DEGAMO88 said:
The thread was intended to share some observations of new custom cues being sold and traded at this time here on az and other websites such as ebay. I wouldn't put Predator cues or Lucasi in this category, because they are mass-produced. The uni-loc it seems, is not popular right now with custom cuemakers. Aside from Paul Drexler, I haven't seen too many custom cuemakers using this pin.

What!?!?! You just haven't seen the NEW uni-loc joint, with Lucasi rings!
 

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JimBo said:
LOL I told you Shorty, you're on the list, now you can't post any of your opinions LOL. I love this place. True he may not have any clue Blud, but leave the guy alone and let him post his opinions, they are just that, Opinions. If your list is what you say it is then I think business is good and shorty will have no ill effects.

Jim

What Shorty can post his opinions but Blud should remain silent and not have the same right of freedom of speech and express his feelings over the posting of threads such as this? Kinda being a hypocrit there telling Shorty to post away and telling Blud to not. Freedom of speech does not mean you get to say whatever you want without rebuttle or other people responding who diagree. This is something that most flag wavers seem to forget, freedom of speech works both ways.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I have a friend
that has a Southwest, and is tickled with it, but I did not really
care for it because I did not like the balance, and I wasn't hot
on the inlays either, although it is a $2,000 cue. But Southwest
has a long waiting time for their cues. .

I don't believe your friend has a SW with inlays for $2,000. Maybe it's a different cuemaker or a fake.

Jim
 
classiccues said:
Ad?!?!?.. A guy posts his opinions and its an ad? Thats to funny.

Shorty, please make another poll asking if positive cue reviews are viewed as ads...

So AZ in a nutshell in a week...

Can't post negative cue reviews, especially that of AZ contributors
Can't post opinion polls... unless they agree with everyone elses philosophy
Can't post positive cue reviews because they are ads'

Might as well shut AZ down, the commies are here...

Joe

Joe, I never said he couldn't post an ad, just said it was a nice ad. I wish it were all true, I like Skip.

Jim
 
Celtic said:
What Shorty can post his opinions but Blud should remain silent and not have the same right of freedom of speech and express his feelings over the posting of threads such as this? Kinda being a hypocrit there telling Shorty to post away and telling Blud to not. Freedom of speech does not mean you get to say whatever you want without rebuttle or other people responding who diagree. This is something that most flag wavers seem to forget, freedom of speech works both ways.

Shorty didn't attack Blud, he didn't say his cues sucked, he added him to a list of the cues he felt weren't hot at the time. It was his opinion and had more names on it then just blud's. Blud has every right to disagree, but he did more and attacked Shorty for giving his opinion. I think Blud needs to take a higher road, not that he can't post what he did, he just shouldn't have, anyone who thinks it would have had an impact on his business is just not well informed.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
Shorty didn't attack Blud, he didn't say his cues sucked, he added him to a list of the cues he felt weren't hot at the time. It was his opinion and had more names on it then just blud's. Blud has every right to disagree, but he did more and attacked Shorty for giving his opinion. I think Blud needs to take a higher road, not that he can't post what he did, he just shouldn't have, anyone who thinks it would have had an impact on his business is just not well informed.

Jim

TAP TAP TAP
 
i've noticed blud to be quick tempered,,,,,,,,,that's just him. but really, i lose respect for people who get into argumentative threads ABOUT THEMSELVES. defending himself and reputation is a sorry excuse, and he should let his work speak for itself.....and THAT needs no defense.

blud,,,,if you have learned anything in your years as a builder of goods,,, it is that you can only please a tiny % of people out there. everyone will NOT like your work. .
 
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JimBo said:
Shorty didn't attack Blud, he didn't say his cues sucked, he added him to a list of the cues he felt weren't hot at the time. It was his opinion and had more names on it then just blud's. Blud has every right to disagree, but he did more and attacked Shorty for giving his opinion. I think Blud needs to take a higher road, not that he can't post what he did, he just shouldn't have, anyone who thinks it would have had an impact on his business is just not well informed.

Jim

That is bullcrap and you know it. The thread was deleted but it was so obvious an attack on Blud when Shorty created his "poll" that everyone knew it. THAT is the thread with the attack. Regardless, if you want Shorty to have the freedom to speak his mind then you must give Blud that same right, and if he wants to use that freedom of speech that he has along with Shorty to tell Shorty that he does not appreciate threads such as this then that is totally his right. You think he should take the higher road? Yeah, I agree because if he decides instead to take the low road he will be in the gutter, right where Shorty is slithering along.

Shorty said:
TAP TAP TAP

Pretty proud of yourself are ya? You have proven yourself as a true weasel in the last couple days. Congrats on ruining your rep on the board and showing your true colors for all to see. You are the typical little worm who throws a rock and then crawls under the teachers dress crying for help when the consequenses come in. You suckered Mike this time, keep it up, see if those blinders stay on his eyes over the long haul.
 
Celtic said:
That is bullcrap and you know it. The thread was deleted but it was so obvious an attack on Blud when Shorty created his "poll" that everyone knew it. THAT is the thread with the attack. Regardless, if you want Shorty to have the freedom to speak his mind then you must give Blud that same right, and if he wants to use that freedom of speech that he has along with Shorty to tell Shorty that he does not appreciate threads such as this then that is totally his right. You think he should take the higher road? Yeah, I agree because if he decides instead to take the low road he will be in the gutter, right where Shorty is slithering along.



Pretty proud of yourself are ya? You have proven yourself as a true weasel in the last couple days. Congrats on ruining your rep on the board and showing your true colors for all to see. You are the typical little worm who throws a rock and then crawls under the teachers dress crying for help when the consequenses come in. You suckered Mike this time, keep it up, see if those blinders stay on his eyes over the long haul.

Are you the same Celtic I am hosting cue pictures for?

Geez...I guess I was the fool eh?

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
Are you the same Celtic I am hosting cue pictures for?

Geez...I guess I was the fool eh?

Shorty

One of us was most definately fooled. By all means, remove the pics, I dont need you hosting them. I used to think you were cool, you had me fooled, these last couple days you have changed my opinion with your posting record. I especially like the "Nyah Nyah" post you made asking DM when he is getting out of "jail", really classy move. You got lucky you were not banned yourself, you caused all the angst in the first place. DM may have been swearing and such but about 90% of the people on that thread thought your thread was in extremely poor taste and said so without all the swears. You are acting like a 12 year old in the schoolyard atm getting away with being a unreal twit and then rubbing it in the face of the members of this board.
 
JimBo said:
Joe, I never said he couldn't post an ad, just said it was a nice ad. I wish it were all true, I like Skip.

Jim

Jim,

Just out of curiosity, which part of the post do you feel is not true?

coastydad said:
IMHO Skip Weston's stock will definitely skyrocket when the 3rd edition of the Blue Book of Pool Cues is published. I think that when people can see the construction of his cues, finish and design work, that he will be inundated with work. His points are really the best in the business and the playability of his cues are second to none. Don't think that stainless steel joints are "out of vogue" but as someone in this thread said they are harder to do well. Skip does flawless stainless steel joints as well as flatfaced or piloted joints. If you like "old school" players type cues he is definitely the guy to see.

While playability is very subective, I would put my new Skip Weston up against any other cuemakers work for execution, design and playability! He may not be doing wild designs like Thomas Wayne, Ginacue or McWorter, but what he does he does extremely well. I'm very interested in your opinions of where you feel Skip falls short. Thanks in advance for your insight!

Zack
 
blud said:
Shorty,
Just your observations of the cue market? Please, Shorty, please!
Making this type of a statement, means you know who has sold what to whom, and for how much also, right shorty?

Another words your clocking all the cuemakers? No one can do that or does that shorty.

I don't understand why you can sit there and say my cues are not hot.

Have you seen my order list? No, sir I don't think you have. It's privy to me and my son only.

After all some folks might be sucked in by your gossup.

I have about 40 cues in the works at this writting.

You guys may disagree with what I have to say, but here goes, and so be it.

Shorty, it's people like you who do not have a clue as to how hot my cues are, and what you say is bull s****.

What you say has an adverse affect on my business. [ and all the otherscuemakers you mentioned ].

You sit back and write whatever you please and care not how it affects ones income. Does this make you proud??????

Turn this around, Shorty, if you were a cuemaker, would you like these types of negitive comments made about your products, by someone who does not know for a fact what is what?

No Shorty, you wouldn't like it either.

I would apperciate it if you would keep me out of your BS, loop.

If you knock me, I have no control so over that, but your coming here stating that my cues are not hot.

What gives you the right to say this?????

No one sir, no one has the right to JUDGE anothers business in such a manor. NO ONE.

Think about it Shorty, your only hurting a mans income who is trying to feed his family. I guess your proud of that?



blud


I don't mind your cues I have had 6 of them and a jump cue and all 6 the feurells came unglued no big deal. YA make a lot of cues and some people seem to love your cues. I think there average cue just my opinion.I am with shortie when he said ,there on the cold list to . It seems the resale of your cues on ebay seem to be a dead market.I have seen two realy nice cues ya made on ebay that have not even gotten one bid and the retail was $1,800 and the guy only wanted $750 with a load of ivory in it. So I would have to say your cues seem to not have good resale value and ya jack the prices up and only use one joint pin that makes it a pain to get a new shaft for but thats more money in your pocket I guess. I wish ya all luck with your cues and you are a smart maker but your resale does suck maybe ya just make to many cues or maybe you might just become the next DALE PERRY. JUSt MY 2 CENTS.
 
justabrake said:
what happened to brickmans mugshot , why did he change pictures

I am sorry are we not allowed to change our avatar? The dog was my original avatar and I just went back to it.....actually I tried to use a little newborn dancing but it wouldnt let me.

Are you suggesting that I changed it for any other reason? If so , if you ever decide to come to Kingsport TN let me know And I will meet you and we can discuss , anything you would like to discuss. You will find as you guys get to know me more I wont try and hide from anything , and if I post it I will deffinitely
stand behind it. I ONLY DELETED MY POST BECAUSE ONE OF THE 2 INVOLVED ASK ME TOO, AND THAT WAS BLUD......IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME ASK HIM......Had you read my earlier posts you would have seen that I explained this.


You guys have called me ignorant and stupid and silly , and all these names when all I did was repeat what an attorney told me......I dont know shorty or blud, and could care less what happens....and wether or not it would actually hold up is another question as well.....the attorney says yea , But I dont know.

UGOTDA7 posted a supreme court ruling that would appear that it wouldnt....but it still dooesnt make it right.....and IMO when shorty started the poll about Blud it made it seem even more like he has something against blud.......but again who cares......I wouldnt have even posted any more past the first post , but people kept addressing me and so I tried to explain, and apparently made a few people mad , and others laugh......so all in all.....WHO CARES.

WHAT I THINK IS FUNNY IS YOU ARE SUGGESTING I KEEP A PICTURE THAT MAKES ME MORE KNOWN AND ACCOUNTABLE.....WHEN YOU YOURSELF DONT EVEN HAVE AN AVATAR
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ....AND WHO SAID IT WAS MY PICTURE ANYWAYS? :D :cool:
 
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