Cyber bullying!

Pay Up Sucker said:
My opinion is that on a internet forum, management have to educate themselves on bullying tactics. You are supposed to confront bullies and when you do that on here, sometimes the victims are the ones that get the hammer and the bully’s just move on to a new target.
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Hiya Champ! :)

It can take a little while before management catches on to the multiple aliases that some posters seem to have.
 
I've seen a lot of mess in poolrooms.

In a poolroom, you usually have an idea when and from where the trouble is coming. You can watch the doors, the body language, hear the yelling.

On AZB it's not just that there aren't any names- it's that there isn't any body language, and you never can know who all is in the room or in the parking lot.

Sometimes AZB scares me.
 
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kvinbrwr said:
I agree, and sadly the site is progressing tin the "wrong" way. I think really that is the price you pay as a spot becomes more popular, it becomes "dumbed down" a bit.

I mean really, guys creating multiple handles to try and make their opinions look popular? Who does that besides people that don't believe their words have merit? And who are they convincing outside of themselves? And, if you believe in what you say, why do you need self-convincing?

It's sad. I was reading a guy going on about what a saint Juice was because he took both sides of bets and made Calcutta bets that he couldn't win. Sorry, but all it looked like to me was a bunch (however many there really was) of guys coming to the defense of the grape they have been squeezing.

And that made me a little sorry for Juice. I've seen guys come into pool rooms and action spots going off because that made it appear to them that people liked them. I don't know they guy, but some of what I read about how wonderful he was, just seemed like guys defending their meal ticket.

Kevin
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U couldn't be more wrong buddy.Couldn't be more wrong.
 
nobcitypool said:
I must be missing something. I don't think the bullying or harassment here is bad at all. In fact, considering it is a cyber pool room, I'm often shocked at how mild it is. IMHO, the mods here do a fine job of where they draw the line.

Nobody can bully another unless the "victim" allows them to in cyberspace. If people get upset over something a stranger types on a website, I struggle to imagine what they're like in real life. If they do bother you, just put them on ignore.
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Well said. I don't think bullying is a problem on here, but the overly-sensitive have infested the place.
 
Go to any subject on the main forum page and obsevrve where most people are viewing......The Non-Pool related area is always where most of the traffic is focused.

Kind of odd for a Pool related website.

Most of those subjects focus on politics or negative news events and that area is flooded with hate and bullying.

I suspect that if you removed the non-pool related section from this website....much of the overflow from individuals more interested in politics than pool will dissipate and the bullys will move to more fertile ground....like Craigslist.

That's not to say that bullying will stop completely but perhaps by establishing a priority toward the subject matter instead of "non"-subject matter we can limit the hate.

Unfortunately, there are few websites who seek to limit thier customers.....good or bad.
 
It's kind of like dealing with Earl on an average day and being "bullied" around the table?...be it opponent or official in Earl's case...what did you expect? Yet Earl is beloved by most people?

It's Cyber Sharking, not Cyber Bullying I would say? Just Imagine if Earl-N-Pearl was a regular contributor here? It would be CyberHell

Many Regards, Pangit
 
Bullying isn't really the right word. Bullying is something where the victim has little choice. On the forums, we have plenty of options to deal with users who bother us.

- Don't engage them by not replying to their posts. Stay off their radar entirely. Make your points without directly addressing them or quoting them.

- Keep out of threads you know will lead to confrontation.

- Use the red report button if you truly feel someone is out of line.

- Use the ignore list if someone's posts bug you every time and they apparently won't be banned any time soon.
 
Bullying within the pool room is Near non-existent with those that don't know ea other (unless they're making a game), If a tush hog or a Blonde Headed Loud/Dominant overweight (compared to her prime) Type ''A'' Blue eyed Bar Bimbo are liquored up....the Windows open. With all the gamers nowadays, it would seem they deal with unrelenting confrontation from a different world, if ya want to call it a world. I'd prefer to play in the swamps, rivers and lakes. Developing your mind around what happens within a video screen/alternate world, would make it near impossible to improve your social skills in the real world.

Just sayin....:thumbup:
 
nobcitypool said:
I must be missing something. I don't think the bullying or harassment here is bad at all. In fact, considering it is a cyber pool room, I'm often shocked at how mild it is. IMHO, the mods here do a fine job of where they draw the line.

Nobody can bully another unless the "victim" allows them to in cyberspace. If people get upset over something a stranger types on a website, I struggle to imagine what they're like in real life. If they do bother you, just put them on ignore.
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THis place is mild, I agree.

I recon somebody's being a bit of a pu$$y.
 
JoeW said:
I think the site will not change. The people who post here are similar to those who hang out in a pool hall. There are all types with the lowest common denominator towards the red neck end of the spectrum. I have accepted the idea that a certain amount of crudeness is to be expected. This limits my input, relative to some other forums I visit. On the whole there is some good information here and lots of trash to wade through. I take it for what it is and lower my expectations of what can and cannot be accomplished.

I don't think that a pool player's site could be much different given the people who are interested in this topic. I have come to accept it for what it is. There will be drama and collateral damage along the way. There are enough knowledgeable people here with good intent and that keeps me coming back, though less frequently than I would prefer.
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In full agreement with the above. Most days I just take a quick look and leave. I get so tired of all the crap, I've actually taken a three month break from time to time, but I keep coming back:shocked2:
 
Scaramouche said:
Most posters are simply aliases to other posters.
Only one person who posts here has met me and would know who I am.

But there are some who are "public" people, for lack of a better term.
Some are here for business reasons.

We know who Jam is.
We know of her partner, her dog. her work, and her passion for the game.
We see her in videos in the front row at tournaments.

If someone attacks me, I usually ignore.
Most "public" persons won't bother with this site because they become targets for the morons.
And the site is poorer for it.
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i think i will attack you next week, i'm kinda tied up this week sorry.:)
 
Pushout said:
In full agreement with the above. Most days I just take a quick look and leave. I get so tired of all the crap, I've actually taken a three month break from time to time, but I keep coming back:shocked2:
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i agree, i been here more in the past couple months than the past 3 years combined-i'm in germany and the weather sucks. when i get back to america, i wont be here as much. to much bickering and knocking now
 
Quiz time!

Is the poster who recently wrote the following shown below a cyber bully?

I am not saying that I was right or wrong on any topic. But I have handled things very very badly in the past. I have met hate with hate, met verbal violence with more verbal aggression, taken personal slurs to heart and tried to dole out even nastier ones.

I came to the conclusion that whether I am right or not when I go-off on someone then no one cares who was right. The topic is then lost and it becomes only name calling and insults. And I have to say that when the adrenaline gets going then it's addictive to want to get in the best zingers.

But it's not productive. At all. Maybe entertaining on some level but ultimately sad and hurtful. Believe it or not I am a peaceful person and I don't hold grudges.

Unfortunately I spoiled a lot of it with the mean-spirited and nasty fights I have been in.

So for that I want to apologize.

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To the forum. I am sorry for subjecting you all to my tirades and rants when I felt I was only defending myself. I was often way out of line.

Joe Van Buren: I am sorry that I did not respond professionally to your comments. Where I have been out of line and met your insults with more personal attacks I am truly sorry for that.

Jack Justis: No matter what I think about how you slighted me I had no grounds to wage an all-out campaign against you. We make leather bags not nuclear missiles. Again, I am very sorry about my actions towards you.

Monstermash (sorry don't know your name): I am sorry that I took personal offense at your actions and went on the offensive against you. You deserved a professional and courteous response to anything you said and did rather than a heated and emotional over the top one.

Snipershot: I have no idea what it is I that I did that made you threaten to kill me but I apologize for whatever I said to you that caused that reaction.

Craig Rittel: We have long resolved our differences but I still owe you a public apology for the level of argument that I took it to.

Michael Lalumiere: Although I unfortunately still harbor some major resentment against you I want to apologize for allowing myself to escalate our fights to unreasonable levels.

Eric Hu: I am sorry that I didn't just let your comments slide and took them personally. I should be tougher and not take your ribbing to heart.

Bobby Chamberlain: I apologize for going after you. You were only defending your friend and I wrapped you up in the general animosity I was feeling. I should have responded to your comments professionally and courteously.

Dave Wilson: Your job is tough and I apologize for making it tougher.

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My only complaint among everything I've see is public responses on a thread that "chides" the poster.

If those individuals feel they have must be a censor or educator, why reveal themselves to be a small-minded nitty-picker?

Simply send a private message with their kind-hearted comments and see if the person responds and the message gets updated.


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