Cyclops balls skidding

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measureman

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I have been playing lately with the new Cyclops balls from Diamond.I have played with them for about 4 sessions. These balls skid more then a car with bald tires. On some shots the cue ball climbs up a little on the ball before the object ball starts to roll.
Now to be fair these tables have Simonis cloth and are only a couple weeks old.
Anybody else see this with these balls?
I remember someone else posted something like this before that they saw it at a recent tournament.
I've been playing pool for 53 years and have played with most every ball and cloth made and many different tables and conditions and this was the worst skidding I've ever seen.
I do want to be fair. When not skidding these balls play darn good and roll true.If they would skid less I think they would be great.
 
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Does the cue ball tend to acquire a lot of chalk spots? If so, try changing out the cue ball.
 
Sounds like its the new table cloth. I like playing on faster tables anyway, so that would be much of an issue for my game. I hate playing on dirty tables or loose cloth. It requires that I stroke harder than I would like and makes me lose control of the speed for the shot.
 
On my home table with Simonis 860, I've been playing exclusively with the Cyclop set and Measle Ball since I got them a couple weeks after the BCA events in Vegas. I play 2-3 hours a day and have only experienced maybe a handful of skids. Much, much less than my Aramith TV set.
 
rexus31 said:
On my home table with Simonis 860, I've been playing exclusively with the Cyclop set and Measle Ball since I got them a couple weeks after the BCA events in Vegas. I play 2-3 hours a day and have only experienced maybe a handful of skids. Much, much less than my Aramith TV set.
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On my home table with new 860 for the past 12 months I've probably had less than 10 skids playing maybe an hour a day on average. I only clean the CB on my shirt I'm wearing when I have bih. I've never once cleaned the OBs. This is with aramith super pro balls with the measels CB that came with the set.

Until someone does a scientific test we will never get to the bottom of this. It's all he said she said with no consensus.
 
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rexus31 said:
On my home table with Simonis 860, I've been playing exclusively with the Cyclop set and Measle Ball since I got them a couple weeks after the BCA events in Vegas. I play 2-3 hours a day and have only experienced maybe a handful of skids. Much, much less than my Aramith TV set.
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How can you play with an aramith CB with a cyclop ball set? That's the same thing Stroud was touting. I mean you can play whatever ball combination you desire, but at the same time you can't claim the cyclop balls don't skid if you are playing with a bastard set.
 
I'm the other player in this equation. Measureman and I have met for three sessions playing together, as well as myself practicing alone for several sessions, and we both agree the skids have happened with enough frequency to affect play. When slow rolling in 14:1 games, the skids happen much more frequently than with the rotation games where you tend to put more stroke on the ball. I've noticed this on straight in shots too. Draw on the CB sends the object ball into a slight hop, and follow on the CB actually sends the CB climbing up the OB. Additionally, it seems like throw is greatly amplified with these balls. Shots where the CB and OB are close to each other can be manipulated (or missed) by miles with just the slightest amount of spin.
I assume that the new cloth is 860, but I could be wrong. I would have to ask the owner. Measureman and I brought this up to the owner, and his replay was "well yeah, new balls new cloth" exactly my point. I've always been under the impression that new balls and new cloth minimized skids.
I'm not exactly in stroke after having not played for the past 4 months or so, but I'm not so far off my game that I can't regocnize that there's something really odd about these balls.
Dave
 
Next time you go there, change the cyclop cueball out for a measle cueball and see if the skid amounts change. It could be a result of the cueball being too light for the object balls. (as the red circle cueball is to the aramith balls).
 
Today I played for 4 hours at Felt. Same tables and cloth.Different balls. Not 1 shot skidded. ??????????????????????????????
And I don't know the brand of balls they have.They do clean them quite often along with regular vacuuming of the tables.
 
I was telling everyone all week at the bcapl national championships that these balls skid like crazy.

Glad to see people agreeing with me
 
I own a set of Cyclop balls and have have very very few skids since I bought them at the bca in July.

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rexus31 said:
On my home table with Simonis 860, I've been playing exclusively with the Cyclop set and Measle Ball since I got them a couple weeks after the BCA events in Vegas. I play 2-3 hours a day and have only experienced maybe a handful of skids. Much, much less than my Aramith TV set.
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No practicing Sir !!!!!
 
Banks said:
Didn't Bartram or somebody make a post about it?
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I didn't make the thread put I did post that they did skid a lot in Vegas
Since then I have a set and prac a lot with them
I have not had many skids
So maybe in Vegas it was what they used to clean them with
 
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