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Koop said:
Wrong as when I got a copy of my High School Transcript I was surprise how high my IQ was....
Dale Perry cues?
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Wrong as when I got a copy of my High School Transcript I was surprise how high my IQ was....
Let's keep it civil.
That must be the reason those cheap imported house cues have low deflection.Varney Cues said:The Meucci plastic ferrule is so thin & just a capped slip on type...that without it, when his workers put glue in them and pushed them on...many would break open due to the glue. So he now leaves a 12mm, 1/4" long hollow spot in the ferrule top, even the tenon is turned down on top & now they don't break during install. When asked about this by most...its his famous "low deflection ferrule".
True story.
Some people actually believe that big gap was designed for performance.
Of course that big gap is only a rumor spread by you.
Hey Joey,
Why don't try explaining it instead of avoiding the questions?
Reason: You can't. It's easier to bad mouth other cues and cuemakers than it is to give definitive answers.
Maybe someday some professional will win a major tournament with a Joey cue but I seriously doubt it. Meucci on the other hand speaks for itself with the number of pro tournaments they have won.
Volley for serve. Although I figure to get more of the same mumbo jumbo, whippy, wet noodle crap because it's easy and you don't have quantify it. Either that or more to make yourself look SO enlightened.
How's it working and I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I asked considering you seem to be an expert on the flex/bend and "whippiness" of a shaft.
You deserve a double
Why don't try explaining it instead of avoiding the questions?
Reason: You can't. It's easier to bad mouth other cues and cuemakers than it is to give definitive answers.
Maybe someday some professional will win a major tournament with a Joey cue but I seriously doubt it. Meucci on the other hand speaks for itself with the number of pro tournaments they have won.
Volley for serve. Although I figure to get more of the same mumbo jumbo, whippy, wet noodle crap because it's easy and you don't have quantify it. Either that or more
to make yourself look SO enlightened.How's it working and I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I asked considering you seem to be an expert on the flex/bend and "whippiness" of a shaft.
You deserve a double
LOL. I give up. You haven't added anything to this discussion, and I believe it's because you simply can't.Koop said:
What do you bring to the table other than animosity and angst? Prove your worth rather than dogging the AZ community.
Post your Mensa membership number or some other credentials and I'll give you some credit. Until then, I believe ignoring the argumentative and ignorant is in order.
-td
td873 said:
I haven't?
I asked some simple questions that were apparently over your head.
As for the AZ community, I don't dog anyone unprovoked. Go on ignoring yourself then because ignorance truly is bliss. Funny thing, people seem to agree based on PM's and rep points so that kind of blows your "dogging the AZ community" out of the water.
Add something of substance or stick to things you can argue, like your own made up defintions of words that don't exist.
Crystal!td873 said:Without using adjectives to describe the subjective feeling of a cue's hit (i.e., wet noodle, whippy, firm, etc...) all we would be left with is the statement "I don't like this cue" which is no help to a reader trying to understand what the author is saying. The fact of the matter is, we (the pool world) are trying to describe in words something that is felt - and most of us are not professional writers.
I get the argument that you don't like their inconsistent usage(s) - and that you agree there is no way to measure it - but I haven't seen anyone propose an alternative to using those words - just a lot of "what the hell do they mean?"
It's clear that there is no standardized measurement for the "noodle-ness" of a cue's hit, but the pool world is not so naive that they can't grasp that a "whippy" cue is [at least] different than a "firm" one. Whether "whippy" is used consistently is irrelevant. Rather, it denotes an unwanted or unexpected feeling by the player - which others can interpret based on their experience.
IMO, using noodle, whippy, or firm, is pretty much what we're left with - and until someone proposes a system we can all use - I'll take whatever feedback the players give me -> and I won't belittle them for trying
-td
PoolSleuth
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Rodney said:Are you sure it wasn't S.A.T.'s
We did not have SAT's in the Old Days when Dinosaurs Roamed the EARTH.....
Can't you guys stick to the subject????Bamacues said:
Are Meuccis whippy or not???
How can you guys have IQ's over 140 if you have ADHD?
JoeyInCali said:
Joey...err...ummm buddy...I believe thats called "ADD".
Purdman
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Thats Enough!!!
Everybody out of the pool. Go get your clothes back on and get back on the short bus. Special ed is over! This is the whippest thread I have ever read. Bruce, get in your seat in the back of the bus until you learn English.
Koop, Fug um buddy! Joey, now cut that out, we all know your shaft is whippy! Everybody else butt out except Barney, I mean Varney. We all know he buys those Chinese cues and puts his name on them, so his vote don't count.
Purdman
Everybody out of the pool. Go get your clothes back on and get back on the short bus. Special ed is over! This is the whippest thread I have ever read. Bruce, get in your seat in the back of the bus until you learn English.
Koop, Fug um buddy! Joey, now cut that out, we all know your shaft is whippy! Everybody else butt out except Barney, I mean Varney. We all know he buys those Chinese cues and puts his name on them, so his vote don't count.
Purdman
Varney Cues said:Joey...err...ummm buddy...I believe thats called "ADD".
ADD= Attention Deficit Disorder.
ADHD= Attention Defiicit Hyperactivity Disorder.
I've known children with both conditions.
ADHD is the winner hands down to drive the parents to drinking and drugs to keep them from killing the kid.
Try and picture Speedy Gonzales on crack and you might get a glimpse.
Purdman said:Everybody out of the pool. Go get your clothes back on and get back on the short bus. Special ed is over! This is the whippest thread I have ever read. Bruce, get in your seat in the back of the bus until you learn English.
Koop, Fug um buddy! Joey, now cut that out, we all know your shaft is whippy! Everybody else butt out except Barney, I mean Varney. We all know he buys those Chinese cues and puts his name on them, so his vote don't count.
Purdman
I have no idea how I ever missed this slugfest. But, I'll add my $.02
ADHD - Attention Deficit Disorder w/Hyperactive manifestation. Some people say that ADD is the same and simply has the hyperactivity more in the thinking process rather than the physical motion.
Whippy & Meucci - I have had three or four Meuccis. My first one, it wasn't whippy. My last one, it also wouldn't be considered whippy. My other two (that's one Meucci, one Maximum, hence three or four Meuccis), I would consider them whippy. The taper was almost constant for 15". My other two, there was obvious growth in the shaft. I had one of those constant taper shafts turned down to 12.75 (or less). It started to get to the "noodle" feel, yet I broke pretty well with it for a few years.
Does whippiness have anything to do with squirt/cue ball deflection? - I don't think so. I think Rempe was wrong in his video. He said the quiver of the shaft let's you hit straight with english. Put a piece of lead tape on the ferrule, and we'll see the same quiver, but more squirt. Video slowly any cue, and you'll see the shimmy, shake, quiver. And with my Meucci cues (pre-dot), they all have a good amount of squirt (15 -18" pivot point), but less than all of my other "normal" cue shafts.
Is whippiness bad? - Nope. It's just differerent. I think the long constant taper allows a lot of players to get the stick through their loop bridge without losing speed. That's why people claim to be able to hit with more english or more draw with Meuccis, IMO.
Are Meuccis bad? - The quality isn't as good as other cuemakers. That's my opinion with my Meucci cues' inlays and construction compared to every other cue I own. I hate to sound like a Meucci basher, but it is what it is. But, I still enjoy shooting with any Meucci at any time. I still like the hit, feel, and balance of most Meucci Cues, especially pre-dot Meuccis.
High School IQ's - Does anyone else have an IQ listed on their high school transcript?
Fred
td873 said:
Not sure why I feel the need to do this but considering you feel I have not added anything of relevance, here is something which may be of interest to the "AZ community" with regards to this.
Keith McCready made this posts on AZ regarding his preference for shaft taper which is between 16" to 16 1/2"
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=2219&highlight=shaft+taper
Earl has been known to use a taper considerably longer than Keith at times. A Meucci taper is 16". Some players like a long taper for a long stroke with the ability to move the ball around the table easily in 9-ball and others prefer a shorter taper. One is no better or worse than another, just a preference. However when it comes to Meucci, it seems that cuemakers with an agenda to sell more of their cues or to make themselves look like all-knowing wizards in the business, love bashing Meucci. If the cuemakers can't answer questions put to them about measuring the quantitative aspects of longitudinal energy or force and the effects on flex at impact since they have no clue, they then jump on a ferrule issue and harp on that.
The questions that I have are, how does cutting a one piece bar cue in half, installing a screw and calling it a custom made sneaky pete make this a superior playing cue? How does buckhorn used in joints and ferrules (new school) make it a superior playing cue? How do both of these types of cues with no wraps suddenly make them more accurate shooting cues than ones with a linen wrap?
These questions do not come out of thin air, they come in response to assertions made and while nobody seemed to question them, I do. Maybe you don't feel as though these are worthwhile questions and beneath you but I would be willing to wager that there are SOME people out there who would like to know the answers, me being one of them. If you don't like the questions or can't provide any answers then why join in? What have you added to the "AZ community" besides some made up definitions?
Am I being argumentative? Yes, but only because the questions are repeatedly dodged which leads me to believe they are baseless claims.
Quite honestly, I have nothing personal against these guys as I don't even know them. I just think it is WRONG to make these types statements unless you can describe and quantify the results so that there is no question that is in indeed fact and not a ploy to foist yourself at the expense of someone elses reputation.
P.S. Hey Purdman
How's it going buddy.
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Bamacues said:
Like I said back in the OLD DAYS there were no SAY’s it was your High School Transcript that got you into College, and a GREAT GPA, that I did not have.
But those were the Good Old Days
With 5 Cent coca cola
25 Cent Big Macs
39 Cent BEST Pastrami Sandwiches
19 Cent a Gallon Gas
You could by a New VW Bettle for 1500 Bucks
Or a Corvette for 4000 Bucks
Lot of job for kids getting out of High School who want to work, and pursue a Blue Collar Career.
There were Job is Gas Stations, Factories, Apprenticeships, etc.,etc., etc. unlike TODAY were many of our job have gone or should I say are bing OUTSCORCED( Thanks Jack Welch) are now being done in China, India, mexico.
Those were the Days when American Created Jobs, Products, and Exported our Products to the World, and Solved Problems.
Today we Talk about Issues for way too long, Many of our Better Paying jobs are Gone off short to workers working for pennies an our, and we Import more than we Export.
I like the OLD DAYS BETTER.
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