Dan Louie Runs 16 Racks!!!

Imho, when you are running consecutive racks, you also need to make a successful breakshot to start each rack. In this case he got help from his opponent who broke some of the racks open for him. Especially in 8-ball that's a major advantage.

Despite this, a very strong accomplishment going 16 racks without a single mistake ! Definitely worth mentioning! :cool: :thumbup:
 
Don't you think it is tougher to run off of someone else's dry break as all 15 balls are still on the table? More traffic, chances for balls to be tied up. Dan was making 2-3 balls on his breaks, less to run and fewer problems to avoid.
 
I agree 16 straight break and runs would be more impressive, mainly because it would be quite a feat to make a ball on the break 16 times in a row, but I'd have to say the guy ran 16 racks in a row here.
 
PoolBum said:
I think half his 16 run-outs were after his opponent broke dry, and half were off his own break.
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why do you have to break to run out? Seems to me it's even harder to do if your opponent breaks dry because you now have to run more balls.

The VENA and, I'm guessing, the BCA consider those all run outs

My question is who was doing the racking for all those dry breaks:rolleyes:
 
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Pii said:
why do you have to break to run out? Seems to me it's even harder to do if your opponent breaks dry because you now have to run more balls.

The VENA and, I'm guessing, the BCA consider those all run outs

My question is who was doing the racking for all those dry breaks:rolleyes:
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The tournament was "rack your own." Guys had no one to blame for the dry breaks but themselves.
 
cueman said:
If he broke first in those last sets in reality he ran 9 Racks in a row. Startign on the other mans dry break would not count as a break and run. But all his own breaks would count. Now that is still real strong. I have not heard of anyone running 9 racks of 8 ball.
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I know this isn't league but in BCA it still counts as a Break and Run if you come to an open table and run out.

BVal
 
Bigdogbret said:
Watched Dan Louie run 16 straight racks of 8 ball this weekend at the Littlecreek Casino 8 ball tournament. Tourney was race to 7, alternate breaks on Diamond Barboxes. Dan finished a match with two break and runs and two runs off of dry breaks by his opponent. He then plays Todd Marsh and runs all 7 racks! Todd broke dry three times. He then ran the first 5 racks against JD Doherty before JD broke and ran the 6th game. Dan came back with another break and run of his own, so some would say he ran the 17th also.

Great shooting Dan! It was a lot of fun to watch.
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Let's crunch a few numbers to put this in perspective...

17 runs of 8 balls each = 136 balls made... assuming none were made on the break... but of course some were on Danny's breaks... so let's say that Dany averaged 1.5 balls on his assumed 9 breaks... which would reduce the total "ran" by ~13 balls... meaning Danny ran ~123 balls without missing a shot and without getting hooked by his opponent's 7 balls... DAMN impressive!
 
Pii said:
why do you have to break to run out? Seems to me it's even harder to do if your opponent breaks dry because you now have to run more balls.

The VENA and, I'm guessing, the BCA consider those all run outs
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You don't have to break in order to run out. You can run out at any point in a game, if you run the table at that point.

What I'm saying is that the term "running racks" as I am familiar with it means running consecutive racks from the break. So, for example, if someone asks me what my high run is at 9-ball and I say that "I ran five racks" they will take me to mean that I broke and ran five racks, not that my opponent broke each time and that I then ran out after my opponent broke.

Sure, I ran the table after the break in each of those games, but I did not "run five racks," at least given the use of that term that I am most familiar with. The OP did not say that "Dan Louie ran out 16 times," he said that "Dan Louie ran 16 racks."
 
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Danny's health.

It was a great job considering he isn't always in good health. He was carried out of a tournament last year. Way to go Dan.
 
Bigdogbret said:
Don't you think it is tougher to run off of someone else's dry break as all 15 balls are still on the table? More traffic, chances for balls to be tied up. Dan was making 2-3 balls on his breaks, less to run and fewer problems to avoid.
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Nope.

Great feat by Dan. But one of the most difficult things to stringing racks is getting to shoot again after the break. i.e. make a ball, don't scratch and have a shot left. Which has an element of luck to it. Say you make a ball 80% of the time on the break. To make a ball for 16 straight racks is improbable. Very improbable.

After the other guy broke, then Dan can choose which ball to shoot at and he always got to shoot.

Look at it this way: the only thing that kept the other guys from running half of those 16 is that they didn't make a ball on the break.

One time I was gambling and I was down 3-0 going to 7. The other guy breaks dry, I run out and run out the set. I call it a sixpack. We play another set which was remarkably similar. He wins the toss, breaks and runs a couple, breaks dry and I run out the set again.

By my reckoning, I had two sixpacks in back to back sets. By yours, I had a 14 pack.

That's a huge difference and I agree with the poster that said the term 'running racks' probably needs to be defined better.

~rc
 
Earl Strickland won less than $1,000,000.00 in nine ball "running" fewer racks.

Dan, great feat...no cheese in eight ball. No eight ball on the breaks count as a win?
 
There is no effective difference, skill-wise, between running them in the strictest definition of the word and running them in clumps with dry alternate breaks. The point is, every single time he got to the table he ran out in a single inning with full traffic to contend with. He could not have done any better and deserves just as much praise as a guy who did the according-to-hoyle 16 pack.
 
CreeDo said:
There is no effective difference, skill-wise, between running them in the strictest definition of the word and running them in clumps with dry alternate breaks. The point is, every single time he got to the table he ran out in a single inning with full traffic to contend with. He could not have done any better and deserves just as much praise as a guy who did the according-to-hoyle 16 pack.
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I agree creedo.. Running a 16 of any kind is insane,, I'm excited to run 16 balls in a row..lol
 
Yukon Ed said:
This thread is further proof that the term "running racks" needs to be better defined.
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I was always under the impression that there is what is called a 'Break and Run'...basically, breaking and running out the table...duh.

Then there is a 'Table Run'...break comes up dry, but player walks to the table for his first inning and runs out the table from there.

I suspect it would/could depend on the league rules, with regards to league play...or tournament rules for ...you got it...tournament play.

Either one leaves your opponent standing inning-less and unhappy.

Lisa
 
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