Danny DiLiberto almost died!

[BisonBilliards]

Hope all is well with Danny. He's a great guy and we feed him as many lesson clients as possible out of our pool room. I'm certain he'll bounce back and keep kickin, he might be in his seventies but watching him shoot as well as teach makes him look like he's in his twenties!

Jr.

 

[Jason Robichaud]

HOF seems to work the same in every sport. Look at Pete Rose

 

[wahoo bob]

Get well soon Danny D. Never met you but always enjoyed your comentary on Accu-stats and Road Player was a great read. Look forward to your next book.

 

[Tbeaux]

Hope Mr. DiLiberto continues on the mend and makes the HOF next year.

 

[Meezer Girl]

Hum...Terry, Terry,... that doesn't ring a Bell.

Not making fun of Terry Bell but I don't really know who Terry Bell is. Can someone let me know?

Thanks!

--Jeff

He is the only pool player to ever figure out how to PRINT MONEY

 

[Cornerman]

They really ought to have an "industry class" nomination in the Hall of Fame.

Not for nothing, but what do you think being inducted under the Meritorious Service nominiation is???

Terry and Larry were inducted under the Meritorious Service category just like Wanderone, John Wesley Hyatt and Robert Byrne.

Danny Dileberto has been on the Greatest Players category for several years. I also think he should have been in by now.

Fred

 

[Cornerman]

HOF seems to work the same in every sport. Look at Pete Rose

It's a damned shame. Pete Rose should be in and it's a no-brainer.

That being said, the LPGA has it right. It's a point system. You get the points, you're in. Just like Dave (SpiderWeb) suggests.

Fred

 

[Winston846]

That being said, the LPGA has it right. It's a point system. You get the points, you're in. Just like Dave (SpiderWeb) suggests.Fred

And it's certainly not easy... 30 career victories I believe.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

Parica was in his last year of eligibility this year and didn't get in. I guess there is a veteran's committee or something that takes over and can induct people no longer eligible, but I'm not sure about this or how that works.

Anyway, is there an update on Danny?

 

[JoeyA]

Parica was in his last year of eligibility this year and didn't get in. I guess there is a veteran's committee or something that takes over and can induct people no longer eligible, but I'm not sure about this or how that works.

Anyway, is there an update on Danny?

You're not suggesting that Jose Parica is no longer eligible for the BCA Hall of Fame are you? I hope that you mean that this past year he didn't get in. I didn't see anything that suggested a last year of eligibility but I could have overlooked it.

I did see this: To be eligible for consideration in the Greatest Player category, a player: a) must be 40 years old by Jan. 1 of the year of their induction; b) must have a professional playing career of at least 10 years; and c) must have recorded significant achievements in U.S.-based events.

Did I miss something?
thanks,
JoeyA

 

[Mowem down]

sad sad sad

Danny D. is as good as it gets for the game he should be in the HOF just for his work with Accu Stats....

As for the other part of this thread. Last year Terry Bell threatend the WPBA if they allowed Mark G. on the board he would pull his sponsorship from their tour (was that good for the game). Conflict of interest wasnt it, but now Hes going to stand up and say look at me Im in the BCA Hall of Fame... Hes a MUTT.....

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

You're not suggesting that Jose Parica is no longer eligible for the BCA Hall of Fame are you? I hope that you mean that this past year he didn't get in. I didn't see anything that suggested a last year of eligibility but I could have overlooked it.

I did see this: To be eligible for consideration in the Greatest Player category, a player: a) must be 40 years old by Jan. 1 of the year of their induction; b) must have a professional playing career of at least 10 years; and c) must have recorded significant achievements in U.S.-based events.

Did I miss something?
thanks,
JoeyA

Joey, that's my understanding and that is why it is criminal he didn't get in this year. I guess a veteran's committee can vote him in but apparently he can no longer get in under the "Greatest Players" category, which is in itself a travesty. Here's a quote from a post by poolteacher on this subject:

According to BCA Hall of Fame voting rules, this was the last year of eligibility for Parica and Jim Mataya in the Greatest Players category. Both individuals will be past the age of 60 in 2011, which means the Veterans Committee will consider them for possible induction in future years.

Here's a link to the thread, poolteacher's post is the OP (#1):

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=195832

Perhaps Fred (Cornerman) can shed some light on this, he is a voter.

 

[powerlineman80]

That sucks!

The same thing pretty much happened to my wife on our honeymoon of all places. She was 3 months pregnant and we found out the day before our wedding. She then started having major pains around her beltline. Come to find out the baby was stuck in her right tube and caused it to rupture and she started hemorrhaging and bleeding internally. We spent out honeymoon in a dinky emergency room only for them to try and send her home. After we both pitched a fit her blood pressure bottomed out more than 3 times due to the internal injuries and only then they figured out what happened. Her BP bottomed out 2-3 times more on the way to the University of Alabama-Birmingham Hospital 40 minutes West of us. We lost the baby and her right tube/ovary after emergency surgery that Sunday night around Midnight-1am (we married that Saturday). Safe to say we were put through the ringer and if we would have went home she would have died.

I feel for DD and will be praying for him. Stuff like that will kill you quick if you are not careful.

 

[Hunter]

Not for nothing, but what do you think being inducted under the Meritorious Service nominiation is???

Terry and Larry were inducted under the Meritorious Service category just like Wanderone, John Wesley Hyatt and Robert Byrne.

Danny Dileberto has been on the Greatest Players category for several years. I also think he should have been in by now.

Fred

I don't consider two of the above "industry", Fred. Hyatt certainly could be considered "industry" as the inventor of the celluloid ball, but Fatty and Robert have the traits that I do consider "meritorious service". They are players that have given back to the game via education, showmanship, etc., but have done their time on the table to further the game. I consider "industry" people to be the ones in the background that might or might not have ever played a game of pool, but could be recognized for their efforts to make the game grow. Without "The Hustler" or "TCOM", pool wouldn't enjoy the popularity it has today and I think they are "industry".

If Hubbart was being inducted for his pool career, it would be one thing (if he was more qualified than another player), but he wasn't. He was considered for his part in starting the APA. I think he furthered the game, but not through the game itself, or through education of future players, but through his business abilities.

I believe that there should be categories that make sense for induction into the HOF i.e. players, cuemakers, etc., though, so you don't have George Balabushka competing with Terry Bell for "meritorious service". I think you can get carried away with categories like the Oscars do, too, but to just have two broad categories like "player" or "meritorious service" leave some rather large gaps in the mix.

That all being said, I sincerely hope they don't pass over Danny, as I think he belongs in the Player's Hall of Fame...

Regards,

Steve

 

[pt109]

Double D,YOU STILL GOT WORK TO DO

Don't want to think about the pool world without Danny.
A few years ago he was sounding a little ragged on the phone....
..he'd got a bug.
A few months later he called me from Reno.
I told him he sounded a lot better than last time.
He said "I'm 71,blind in one eye and I WILL win the next fight i'm in!"

I will not be happy till Danny gets in the HOF.

I'd like to see Mataya and Parica there also.

 

[mm4pool]

I of course would gladly second that. BUT I'm afraid when it comes to the BCA, it would just fall on deaf ears! They're only interested in people who put money in their pockets and I've quit doing that years ago.

OK, Mr. Cuesmith you have now named two national organizations as being nothing more than money grubbing scams who do nothing for the game. Why stop there? What about the room owner who raises their price for table time? Cost of beer, food, soft drinks? How dare they presume to try to run a profitable businees, this is about the love and purity of the game. And let's not forget about all the manufacturers of pool related paraphanalia. What about all the fine instructors we have at out disposal here on AZB? How dare they charge for their time and efforts. Steve, Randy and others stop this insanity now! How dare you make money from us simpletons who just wish to learn this great game. My God who will stop all these monsters run amok! How dare they presume to "suck" the monet from us poor working folk's pockets. The very vehemence of your arguements against APA and now evidently the BCA just shows the level of your hypocracy.

I for one can clearly see the difference between Bell and Hubbard's nimination and Mr Deliberto. The first two are being recognised for their achievement in the business side while Danny was in consideration for his playing career. Two very different situations. Is it a shame that Danny is not in yet? Probably. If Bell or Hubbard were being inducted for their playing careers then maybe there would be cause for debate.

In closing, people who choose to bash the APA or other organizations because they were meant to succeed and make a profit should in my opinion strongly consider moving to another country where such audacity is not tolerated. That or next time you choose to get up on your soapbox and bash, be sure you get all the aforementioned entities as well as any I probably missed.

I do apologise for the length of my rant and as always the aforementioned opinions are mine alone. Have a great night and may all your rolls be true!

Mike

 

[cuesmith]

OK, Mr. Cuesmith you have now named two national organizations as being nothing more than money grubbing scams who do nothing for the game. Why stop there? What about the room owner who raises their price for table time? Cost of beer, food, soft drinks? How dare they presume to try to run a profitable businees, this is about the love and purity of the game. And let's not forget about all the manufacturers of pool related paraphanalia. What about all the fine instructors we have at out disposal here on AZB? How dare they charge for their time and efforts. Steve, Randy and others stop this insanity now! How dare you make money from us simpletons who just wish to learn this great game. My God who will stop all these monsters run amok! How dare they presume to "suck" the monet from us poor working folk's pockets. The very vehemence of your arguements against APA and now evidently the BCA just shows the level of your hypocracy.

I for one can clearly see the difference between Bell and Hubbard's nimination and Mr Deliberto. The first two are being recognised for their achievement in the business side while Danny was in consideration for his playing career. Two very different situations. Is it a shame that Danny is not in yet? Probably. If Bell or Hubbard were being inducted for their playing careers then maybe there would be cause for debate.

In closing, people who choose to bash the APA or other organizations because they were meant to succeed and make a profit should in my opinion strongly consider moving to another country where such audacity is not tolerated. That or next time you choose to get up on your soapbox and bash, be sure you get all the aforementioned entities as well as any I probably missed.

I do apologise for the length of my rant and as always the aforementioned opinions are mine alone. Have a great night and may all your rolls be true!

Mike

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as misinformed as it is, just as I'm entitled to mine. But I have had 25 years of experience in the industry and have seen what goes on first hand! Good rolls to you also.

 

[Masirib5]

Scott, I have to disagree with you on this. I think that by everyone supporting Danny and giving him best wishes to gain back his physical health, it is just as important for us to support him mentally by stating how we feel about him getting the preverbal "shaft" on getting into the HOF.

If there is anything that can help a physical condition, it is a positive attitude. He deserves the best of everything and DANNY IS ONE OF THE GREATS!!!

--Jef

First of all, best wishes to Danny DiLiberto for a complete and speedy recovery. From the title of this thread, every post here should be about Danny D getting better...NOT about bashing the APA or Terry & Larry. Sherm has a personal vendetta against the APA (as do several other posters), but it does not belong in this thread. Get well Danny!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

 

[Cornerman]

You're not suggesting that Jose Parica is no longer eligible for the BCA Hall of Fame are you? I hope that you mean that this past year he didn't get in. I didn't see anything that suggested a last year of eligibility but I could have overlooked it. .

Did I miss something?
thanks,
JoeyA

The BCA HoF Committee has set up a "Veteran Players" category. The intent is to be able to consider players of past generations without having them compete against contemporary players. The thought process is that there are a lot of these players that aren't getting votes because the modern players are getting them.

That is to say the the HoF Committee completely understand that the older players are being forgotten, even by the voting members. They're trying to give the veteran players like Danny D. a better shot at getting in. So, to all that are pissing on the BCA HoF Committee, give it a rest. The committee of today is trying. And they'll continue on trying.

Jose' turned the age that the committtee deemed as the limit and therefore will place him in the Veteran category for next year's voting. Is this a backward move for Jose'? Possibly. But last year was probably the closest he's gotten to getting in, while this year he wasn't anywhere near close. I was sure he was going to get in this year.

Personally, I'd like to see the Greatest Player age criteria changed to at least 50. Having players near their prime inducted just doesn't seem right to me. The Hall of Fame should be about remembering the players. You don't need to "remember" the three latest inductees since they're all still winning tournaments!!!

Fred

 

[JAM]

The BCA HoF Committee has set up a "Veteran Players" category. The intent is to be able to consider players of past generations without having them compete against contemporary players. The thought process is that there are a lot of these players that aren't getting votes because the modern players are getting them.

That is to say the the HoF Committee completely understand that the older players are being forgotten, even by the voting members. They're trying to give the veteran players like Danny D. a better shot at getting in. So, to all that are pissing on the BCA HoF Committee, give it a rest. The committee of today is trying. And they'll continue on trying.

Jose' turned the age that the committtee deemed as the limit and therefore will place him in the Veteran category for next year's voting. Is this a backward move for Jose'? Possibly. But last year was probably the closest he's gotten to getting in, while this year he wasn't anywhere near close. I was sure he was going to get in this year.

Personally, I'd like to see the Greatest Player age criteria changed to at least 50. Having players near their prime inducted just doesn't seem right to me. The Hall of Fame should be about remembering the players. You don't need to "remember" the three latest inductees since they're all still winning tournaments!!!

Fred

Tap, tap, tap. Well said. You're a good writer!