Dating a Gold Crown 1

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Hi. Can anyone decipher the codes I found inside a Brunswick Gold Crown 1 (I think) table?

Under the rails: FYVGO
Under the aprons: BYV CR&GA
Under the white under-skirts: 74719-1 and 47719-2

I'm told this is a GC1 but it has a metal Brunswick name plate. Trying to figure out what year it might be. Thanks!
 
I figured this thread would be about a girlfriend or wife who told her man that if he keeps dating the Gold Crown she is going to leave.
 
Toxictom said:
I figured this thread would be about a girlfriend or wife who told her man that if he keeps dating the Gold Crown she is going to leave.
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I was thinking 'boy he's got a very overweight girlfriend'!!
 
sodly said:
Hi. Can anyone decipher the codes I found inside a Brunswick Gold Crown 1 (I think) table?

Under the rails: FYVGO
Under the aprons: BYV CR&GA
Under the white under-skirts: 74719-1 and 47719-2

I'm told this is a GC1 but it has a metal Brunswick name plate. Trying to figure out what year it might be. Thanks!
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What's the serial numbers stamped into the top of the frame, every piece should have a number.
 
Metal nameplate did come in later GC1s.

The easiest way for me to tell the difference from a GC1 and GC2 is the metal trim in the ball box area. If its chrome its a GC1, if its bronze/copper, its a GC2.

GC1 had a number of variances from early to late ones, plastic/metal name plates, non-adjustable/adjustable legs, etc.

Ian
 
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xianmacx said:
Metal nameplate did come in later GC1s.

The easiest way to tell the difference from a GC1 and GC2 for me is the metal trim in the ball box area. If its chrome its a GC1, if its bronze/copper, its a GC2.

GC1 had a number of variances from early to late ones, plastic/metal name plates, non-adjustable/adjustable legs, etc.

Ian
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Now people are starting to catch on the difference between a 1 & 2 and don't forget, the 2 was only available with a rosewood paint stained finish, if it's painted it's a 1.
 
realkingcobra said:
Now people are starting to catch on the difference between a 1 & 2 and don't forget, the 2 was only available with a rosewood paint stained finish, if it's painted it's a 1.
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I get tricked from all the people that stripped and stained the sides on GC1. The ballbox metal is a dead giveaway. Feet were also bronze on the 2s weren't they Glen?

RKC is educating the masses!
 
xianmacx said:
I get tricked from all the people that stripped and stained the sides on GC1. The ballbox metal is a dead giveaway. Feet were also bronze on the 2s weren't they Glen?

RKC is educating the masses!
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Yes, they were. And for what its worth, a stripped down and refinished stained GC1 is still a dead give away because the 2 with the rosewood paint stained finish also blocked about 95% of the wood grain from showing through the finished look, unlike when it's been refinished.
 
realkingcobra said:
Yes, they were. And for what its worth, a stripped down and refinished stained GC1 is still a dead give away because the 2 with the rosewood paint stained finish also blocked about 95% of the wood grain from showing through the finished look, unlike when it's been refinished.
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Ah, so more like a brown paint on the GC2 than a stained wood?
 
Oh, so now the awful things that my table does to me are called 'dating'?

Look out, ladies. I just learned sumtin.
 
Here is the table I'm looking at... via photos. I would love to get some educated opinions about it.

All I know is it was in a home basement for many years, although I'm not sure it was bought new by the homeowner or not. But it definitely spent the majority of it's life there. The seller says it has been recovered about 4 times, twice with tacks and twice with staples. It has 1" thick "slate" (no photos). Has a metal name tag.

Cosmetically, I'm wondering what can be done about the dents in the rail formica. Can that be fixed? I know everything else could be painted and polished, if necessary. But I'd also like to find very nice, original rails. Any thoughts? I'm hoping to find a real time capsule GC1 that doesn't need restoration. Not sure if this fits the bill or not. Seems I've seen cleaner ones in my short time looking, although infrequently. Thanks, guys!

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And here's a photo of the table when it was last together about 8 years ago, for what it's worth. Everything looks good in small, blurry photos, right? Lol.

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Those rails look like a Jackie Chan fight scene was filmed on them.
Make you sure you check the condition of the wood subrail ends behind the pocket facings where decades of balls took their toll.

It's easier to get a pro to rebuild it while it's apart before finding out late.
 
sodly said:
Hi. Can anyone decipher the codes I found inside a Brunswick Gold Crown 1 (I think) table?

Under the rails: FYVGO
Under the aprons: BYV CR&GA
Under the white under-skirts: 74719-1 and 47719-2

I'm told this is a GC1 but it has a metal Brunswick name plate. Trying to figure out what year it might be. Thanks!
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The foot pedestals have a date under them,etched into,casting
 
definitely a GC1. That is one of the original 4 colors.

Its interesting, the sides and base are in good condition but the formica has more wear than expected based on the rest of the condition. Lots of dents and damage. To me, the formica is the biggest area of concern if you want a great condition gold crown. As you mentioned, the rest can be polished and painted to look brand new, but the formica can't easily be replaced or restored.
 
Early 1960s. GC 1....buy it, clean it up please keep,the retro,orange....very cool.
 
What about replacing the formica laminate with something like the link listed below. I don't know for sure, but I would think a heat gun would lift the old laminate, then you could smooth the surface out with maybe a bondo like substance and simply use contact adhesive and apply the new laminate, or you might could just upgrade the project to some real nice walnut, or rosewood veneer.

https://www.cabinetmakerwarehouse.c...mica/cascara-teakwood-formica-sheet-laminate/
 
Lawnboy77 said:
What about replacing the formica laminate with something like the link listed below. I don't know for sure, but I would think a heat gun would lift the old laminate, then you could smooth the surface out with maybe a bondo like substance and simply use contact adhesive and apply the new laminate, or you might could just upgrade the project to some real nice walnut, or rosewood veneer.

https://www.cabinetmakerwarehouse.c...mica/cascara-teakwood-formica-sheet-laminate/
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yes a few guys and mechanics on here have done that. I appreciate the original looks of the GC and changing the formica to something else would take away from that IMO.
 
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