DCC 9 Ball - Who's left?

What were the payouts? $16,000 for first place in 9 ball with 529×1.33 (including buy backs) =700 entries, looks pretty meager to me unless I am missing something. Just saying.
 
Do you have players who enter multiple satellites?
I don’t play poker but I’ve been around it. And yes lots of players enter sats until they win an entry into the tourney. They aren’t capped. In backgammon I’ve seen both, one re-buy or open sats until you either win, give up, or run out of time.

The downside is you’re not really in the “main” until you’re in. You’re just playing mini’s. The dead $ wouldn’t ever make it into the tourney. Unless someone opted to skip the sats or mini’s.
 
I don’t play poker but I’ve been around it. And yes lots of players enter sats until they win an entry into the tourney. They aren’t capped. In backgammon I’ve seen both, one re-buy or open sats until you either win, give up, or run out of time.

The downside is you’re not really in the “main” until you’re in. You’re just playing mini’s.
I've seen one player buy back three times at the pool version. He managed to finish fourth on the main board, IIRC, and made a profit. Those entries were only $20, though.
 
What were the payouts? $16,000 for first place in 9 ball with 529×1.33 (including buy backs) =700 entries, looks pretty meager to me unless I am missing something. Just saying.
I assume the payouts will eventually appear on the AZB money list. Your numbers are a little off. According to the tournament announcement, the total guaranteed purse was $103,900 with 526 players. I got 526 from the names listed on the results page.
 
I assume the payouts will eventually appear on the AZB money list. Your numbers are a little off. According to the tournament announcement, the total guaranteed purse was $103,900 with 526 players. I got 526 from the names listed on the results page.
$103k for 9 ball only? Then that looks reasonable. Do you know how many places got paid?
 
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Is Tylers post accurate? The years I attended, they cleaned all the ball sets at night (I think, I might be remembering wrong). The post flood simonis being slow I don't buy that for a second. Maybe the tables were just dirty.
I personally believe the tables upstairs were lightly used previously and the ones downstairs were new. Also the lighting upstairs sucked!
 
Again, I call back to the Rogan interview. Rogan pressed Fedor many times about "the best in the world" and Fedor remained humble throughout. At the end, Joe brought it up again and Fedor, with a coy smiles, answers "maybe I already am". I think by the end of this year, we will all agree.
I watched the entire last 24 hours of the 9-ball tournament, and it was very obvious that Fedor has already reached that point.

At about 10:30 in the morning (Saturday) I took a picture that had Filler, Gorst, and Van Boening playing in adjacent tables. It was a sentimental moment to have the top 3 Fargo rated players in the world in the same picture playing on adjacent tables.

By the end of the tournament approximately 24 hours later after continuous play Fedor had defeated the other two on the TV table by scores of 9-2 and 9-2. His demeanor throughout the entire day, evening, and morning did not falter. His fundamentals are very obviously the cleanest. The difficulty of racks that he continued to complete with precise cueball position was something of sheer beauty to observe.

With the length of the tournament and dominance of his performance, it may be one of the most impressive performances on a pool table ever. I told a friend of mine at the end, that if this is the moment in time when Efren is handing off the torch, this young man is a great person to be handing it off. Efren has 13 DCC banners... Fedor already now has 6.
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$103k for 9 ball only? Then that looks reasonable. Do you know how many places get paid?
You can get an idea by looking at the money list from last year. They paid about 110 in 9 ball, with $250 each for the bottom 30 or so (tied).
 
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They don't need to reduce the number of players or the number of matches. The problem is that the current format does not keep the tables busy. If they kept the tables busy, there would be enough time.

I agree, though, that if they keep the current format, the horrible scheduling problems will continue unless they reduce the entries. If they cap entries some people won't attend if they can't play in an event.

I've already proposed an alternative buy-back format that has been used successfully around here. They were not interested. That format keeps the tables busy.
I agree they need to react to the schedule. The one pocket finals slipping into Saturday had significant impact to the 9 ball rounds 7-10 with Tony's run.

I have read your proposal and the committee was not open to it. Do you think there would be an appetite for splitting the first 4 rounds into an am and pm version and play around the clock splitting the field in half and getting to a round 4 (or 5 if necessary) giving the players a schedule relief? This is similar to the WSOP splitting their schedule to accommodate increased participation.

I spoke to Skylar Woodward Saturday morning, and he said he had to play two matches after the bank ring game was over before he could get to bed - which was around 2am (Friday night/Saturday morning) just to be back at 9am Saturday morning, getting some 4 hours rest.
 
... Do you think there would be an appetite for splitting the first 4 rounds into an am and pm version and play around the clock splitting the field in half ...
That's a good general method for dealing with the early rounds of a large tournament. You have a "morning shift" and an "evening shift". It stops working in the later stages. Fedor played 15 rounds in the 9 ball.

I'm hopeful that whoever makes decisions for DCC understands that they have to deal with the problem. But the realist side of me thinks that won't happen. It's been a problem for a long, long time -- this is not the first or even the fifth time scheduling has been an issue.
 
@Bob Jewett I bet you are glad you stopped the straight pool challenge a few years back. That didn't work with 300 entrants, now we have 500.
I think it probably could have continued if we had given up the idea of a real tournament at the end. The players always had lots of waiting time up until Saturday and liked to come up to the 14.1 for the free money and the snacks. The last year we did it (2019) Dennis Walsh managed to assemble over $20,000 in added money, plus every penny of the entry fees. Best action at the Derby.
 
Well, Fedor drew a bye because he doesn't have to fly to Poland. I wonder if he slept in. Rooms at the Horseshoe tonight are only $93.

i was thinking of that. all of the other players in the later rounds were heading to the world championship and with the delayed scheduling this was kinda favoring fedor. but yea it was brutal anyway, his knuckles were actually bloody at the end
 
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