You know we used to have AZBilliards room at the Derby.I'm ready to plan my first trip there for next year and I'm going to demand, in writing, an AZ meet-up. There it's in writing.
Do you think the tournament will be able to afford the loss of a table?You know we used to have AZBilliards room at the Derby.
Do you have players who enter multiple satellites?that’s like satellite poker tournaments.
I do know that but I've never gone. I'm winding down on this raising a family business. Time to party. Time to get the band back together.You know we used to have AZBilliards room at the Derby.
I don’t play poker but I’ve been around it. And yes lots of players enter sats until they win an entry into the tourney. They aren’t capped. In backgammon I’ve seen both, one re-buy or open sats until you either win, give up, or run out of time.Do you have players who enter multiple satellites?
I've seen one player buy back three times at the pool version. He managed to finish fourth on the main board, IIRC, and made a profit. Those entries were only $20, though.I don’t play poker but I’ve been around it. And yes lots of players enter sats until they win an entry into the tourney. They aren’t capped. In backgammon I’ve seen both, one re-buy or open sats until you either win, give up, or run out of time.
The downside is you’re not really in the “main” until you’re in. You’re just playing mini’s.
I assume the payouts will eventually appear on the AZB money list. Your numbers are a little off. According to the tournament announcement, the total guaranteed purse was $103,900 with 526 players. I got 526 from the names listed on the results page.What were the payouts? $16,000 for first place in 9 ball with 529×1.33 (including buy backs) =700 entries, looks pretty meager to me unless I am missing something. Just saying.
$103k for 9 ball only? Then that looks reasonable. Do you know how many places got paid?I assume the payouts will eventually appear on the AZB money list. Your numbers are a little off. According to the tournament announcement, the total guaranteed purse was $103,900 with 526 players. I got 526 from the names listed on the results page.
I personally believe the tables upstairs were lightly used previously and the ones downstairs were new. Also the lighting upstairs sucked!Is Tylers post accurate? The years I attended, they cleaned all the ball sets at night (I think, I might be remembering wrong). The post flood simonis being slow I don't buy that for a second. Maybe the tables were just dirty.
I watched the entire last 24 hours of the 9-ball tournament, and it was very obvious that Fedor has already reached that point.Again, I call back to the Rogan interview. Rogan pressed Fedor many times about "the best in the world" and Fedor remained humble throughout. At the end, Joe brought it up again and Fedor, with a coy smiles, answers "maybe I already am". I think by the end of this year, we will all agree.
You can get an idea by looking at the money list from last year. They paid about 110 in 9 ball, with $250 each for the bottom 30 or so (tied).$103k for 9 ball only? Then that looks reasonable. Do you know how many places get paid?
I agree they need to react to the schedule. The one pocket finals slipping into Saturday had significant impact to the 9 ball rounds 7-10 with Tony's run.They don't need to reduce the number of players or the number of matches. The problem is that the current format does not keep the tables busy. If they kept the tables busy, there would be enough time.
I agree, though, that if they keep the current format, the horrible scheduling problems will continue unless they reduce the entries. If they cap entries some people won't attend if they can't play in an event.
I've already proposed an alternative buy-back format that has been used successfully around here. They were not interested. That format keeps the tables busy.
That's a good general method for dealing with the early rounds of a large tournament. You have a "morning shift" and an "evening shift". It stops working in the later stages. Fedor played 15 rounds in the 9 ball.... Do you think there would be an appetite for splitting the first 4 rounds into an am and pm version and play around the clock splitting the field in half ...
I think it probably could have continued if we had given up the idea of a real tournament at the end. The players always had lots of waiting time up until Saturday and liked to come up to the 14.1 for the free money and the snacks. The last year we did it (2019) Dennis Walsh managed to assemble over $20,000 in added money, plus every penny of the entry fees. Best action at the Derby.@Bob Jewett I bet you are glad you stopped the straight pool challenge a few years back. That didn't work with 300 entrants, now we have 500.
No, Fedor just drew a bye in the 16th round.Is it over yet? J/k
Kinda
Well, Fedor drew a bye because he doesn't have to fly to Poland. I wonder if he slept in. Rooms at the Horseshoe tonight are only $93.No, Fedor just drew a bye in the 16th round.
Well, Fedor drew a bye because he doesn't have to fly to Poland. I wonder if he slept in. Rooms at the Horseshoe tonight are only $93.