Dennis could have had a career as a boxer if he chose. He is one tough guy.
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Dennis Hatch wants a job
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Smash, I agree. I forgot that part. In the old days, it used to be, what you knew, not who you knew.
Now, its the opposite. Networking is 100%. If you have a friend that knows someone that knows someone that is hiring etc.
But, if someone has a vocation, playing pool for most of your life, its probably safe to assume that your work experience doesn't include basic things like warehouse, driving a fork lift, business end of a shovel, sales etc.
Your job experience on your resume can be a tad short.
So, what most kids learn when they get out of high school if they didn't go to college, they can fall back on the experience that they have gained from changing different jobs over the years.
If you're say, 45, and you haven't done that, you're going to be doing the learning experience at that age.
If you're looking for a position, as they call it, to be put into, that may require some formal education.
Never too late to go back to school either.
Well there ya go. Bouncer or a cage fighter. I hear the pension plans are really great.
Now, its the opposite. Networking is 100%. If you have a friend that knows someone that knows someone that is hiring etc.
But, if someone has a vocation, playing pool for most of your life, its probably safe to assume that your work experience doesn't include basic things like warehouse, driving a fork lift, business end of a shovel, sales etc.
Your job experience on your resume can be a tad short.
So, what most kids learn when they get out of high school if they didn't go to college, they can fall back on the experience that they have gained from changing different jobs over the years.
If you're say, 45, and you haven't done that, you're going to be doing the learning experience at that age.
If you're looking for a position, as they call it, to be put into, that may require some formal education.
Never too late to go back to school either.
Well there ya go. Bouncer or a cage fighter. I hear the pension plans are really great.
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Dennis is a survivor. Whatever he pursues, he will be okay.
It does reveal what the current state of affairs is in professional pool. Instead of cutting down Dennis, you folks should be looking at how the BCA let this happen to American professional pool. If they had been doing their job, what the mission is of that organization from its very genesis, none of this would be happening. Damn the BCA!
I wish Dennis all the very best. :smile:
It does reveal what the current state of affairs is in professional pool. Instead of cutting down Dennis, you folks should be looking at how the BCA let this happen to American professional pool. If they had been doing their job, what the mission is of that organization from its very genesis, none of this would be happening. Damn the BCA!
I wish Dennis all the very best. :smile:
Here we go again Jen. Come on, every time someone starts a thread, you use it to deflect and start talking about blaming everyone else in the world that is responsible for the decline of Professional pool in the USA.
No one is putting Dennis down. He seems like a decent chap and I also wish him luck.
Maybe its that time in his life where he realized what is happening and is willing to do something about it. Like I said, never too late to go back to school.
Just because you take a short hiatus, school, a normal job, doesn't mean you can't play Pro pool ever again.
I hope Dennis the very best. He has a unique skill set and should look within himself at other options to make a living. Insurance or real estate might be something the he could excel that's outside pool. As far as the BCA, I don't think they are in a position to do much good. It's always been my contention, if the industry doesn't help support the sport then why would outside companies jump on board? Tough problems but the game always seems to survive.
Isn't the BCA just a trade organization. If you go to the BCA show you will see as much bar/restaurant fixtures and hot tubs as pool equipment. I don't see them in the role of promoters of the sport of pool. The letters BCA are misleading non a days as it applies to their future mission, if there even is one. They are never going in the direction of pool promotion so it is a moot point.
Agreed but good luck anyway
Amen to this.
I'm not a big fan of Dennis, but I envy him as a pro pool player as I envy any pro pool player because they are living out my dream to be a pro pool player. My skills playing pool is not good enough to be a pro pool player. Dennis' skills in pool is exceptional. His accomplishments as a pro pool player is indicative of his skill.
Just because you don't have money management skills or don't plan ahead for the financial welfare of your future doesn't mean you're a bad person. I don't see anything wrong wrong with "living in the moment either." Lots of people do it, and I wouldn't fault anyone doing that.
I applaud Dennis for his skill and accomplishments as a pro pool player. I applaud Dennis for reaching out anyway he can in trying to get a job. Why does it matter if it's just for 6 months???? He's trying to survive along with millions of unemployed Americans.
If I had the means I would hire Dennis and give him a chance.
It seems that no matter what when a pro comes on Az, whether he is struggling
and not looking for a job, or he is struggling and looking for a job, people want
to slice and dice them, either way.
It must be either jealousy or some are just miserable in your own lives.
I am thinking with most it's the first because they are stuck in boring jobs they hate,
but I'm guessing that would also help to make life miserable.
So maybe it's not one or the other, but both. It's sad whatever the reason.
I wonder if it's the close proximity the fans have more so with the professional pool
players than I see in other professional sports where the pro's are put more on a
pedestal by the fans and just admired for their talent and skills.
The pool fan appears to want to compare themselves in a way rather than admire
professional players as fans do in other sports. Which in turn leads down the road
it seems of picking them apart rather than building them up.
and not looking for a job, or he is struggling and looking for a job, people want
to slice and dice them, either way.
It must be either jealousy or some are just miserable in your own lives.
I am thinking with most it's the first because they are stuck in boring jobs they hate,
but I'm guessing that would also help to make life miserable.
So maybe it's not one or the other, but both. It's sad whatever the reason.
I wonder if it's the close proximity the fans have more so with the professional pool
players than I see in other professional sports where the pro's are put more on a
pedestal by the fans and just admired for their talent and skills.
The pool fan appears to want to compare themselves in a way rather than admire
professional players as fans do in other sports. Which in turn leads down the road
it seems of picking them apart rather than building them up.
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If you're from England, I hear the Shrubbery business is quite lucrative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69iB-xy0u4A
Ya know Freezy Pop, I think yer right on the money as far as human nature goes. That was actually pretty deep. Did you do a wake and bake this morning?
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It would be a moot point if they were not WPA's arm so to speak in the U.S. and
they would just step down and relinquish that role to someone who would work for
the good of professional pool. As long as they hold that position and won't let go
then I feel it is not a moot as it effects the lack of direction we see today in pool.
Here is what I think is just one example of why the BCA can't wear both hats fairly,
and should be just a trade organization as that is all they want to do anyway it would
appear.
Didn't the BCA sell the BCA Pool league because the APA complained that for the BCA trade organization to run and own the the BCA league was a conflict of interest?
So they sold the money making league.
That said,
You (The BCA) being the governing body for Pool in North America (under the WPA umbrella) wouldn't it have made sense to keep the money making BCA league
as those monies could have gone to funding Pro tournaments. Which you say you want to do, but you now have no money to do?
I find it hard to see how wearing both caps affords you the ability to do the best job for both the Pro Players and the Industry people.
Sadly it appears to me and I think a lot of others that you (The BCA) has decided to your best job for the industry people and dam the Pro Players.
Fine then work for the industry people and let go of the part where you're the governing body for Pool in North America. As the above shows you cannot do a fair and
just job for both, it also shows which side you have chosen as your actions speak very clearly. Much more clearly than you words I'm afraid.
The BCA being the governing body for Pool in North America of coarse sounds good and gives the industry side more clout, so of coarse you don't want to let that go.
Your track record however has proven that you can't steer two ships at once and keep them both on coarse ! In fact one is sinking at this very moment !
I like Dennis's pink back pack.
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The question here is even if the BCA were to become just a trade organization,
is there a group or someone to step in and run professional pool.
Who would that be ?
The BCA used to have the responsibility to represent professional pool in North America to the WPA. They sh*t-canned that idea and decided to only look after industry members' interests. If you look at their mission statement at its genesis, their mission is quite different today.
Yes, I blame the BCA, which today is a trade organization, for not living up to their responsibility to promote professional pool in North American; in particular, the United States.
I think Facebook is a fine way for him to put himself out there.
Honestly, he could use a bit of a hook-up, not having built a traditional résumé, to date.
Best of luck to him, to you and me too.
Honestly, he could use a bit of a hook-up, not having built a traditional résumé, to date.
Best of luck to him, to you and me too.
Interesting thread. Here's the thing.....in this country the standard patter is "follow your bliss." But if you do as Dennis so clearly has and he doesn't turn out to be a multibijillionaire he's branded a failure. Is he serious about getting a job? Only he knows. But if you were going out looking for a paying gig wouldn't you first turn to familiar faces and stomping grounds vs. Monster.com? When I needed work I didn't barge into an operating room mid appendectomy and ask if I could help because I know nothing about doctoring. Why don't pro players get jobs and just play pool as an avocation? Because they don't want to. They're following their bliss. They've accepted that they're not going to end up loaded, they've sold their souls to some extent to companies they would probably prefer to not endorse in order to pay the rent and put food on the table all in the exercise of chasing their dreams of creating perfection on a pool table. Get a job? How is practicing for tens of thousands of hours, competing until all hours of the day and night, living, sleeping and eating pool not a job? Is it a highly lucrative career choice? Or course not but since when in the United States has financial security been the measure of man's success?
I personally know a plethora artists which is what pool players are by the way, who chase perfection endlessly. The difference between a professional and an amateur is the pro knows when to surrender today and perhaps tomorrow?...........perfection. Here's the thing though....every artist knows in his heart and soul that achieving perfection is unattainable but the most honorable endeavor in life is not giving a rat's ass and continuing to try again. There is nothing more noble in all of human endeavor than trying to achieve perfection.
I personally know a plethora artists which is what pool players are by the way, who chase perfection endlessly. The difference between a professional and an amateur is the pro knows when to surrender today and perhaps tomorrow?...........perfection. Here's the thing though....every artist knows in his heart and soul that achieving perfection is unattainable but the most honorable endeavor in life is not giving a rat's ass and continuing to try again. There is nothing more noble in all of human endeavor than trying to achieve perfection.
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If he were a 20/30 something, perhaps. IMO, that is no job for a grow'd up.
I am thinking sales, like appliance or furniture, not best buy or autos. Something with good spiff potential.