Deno Andrews: Important Message from Kevin Trudeau
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i say fair play to KT and i'm hopeful for the future. i also wish as part of the revamped IPT we will get 9-ball as well as eight ball too.
bottom line is it's silly not to support the IPT because it's the best thing to ever happen to pool if it works.
bottom line is it's silly not to support the IPT because it's the best thing to ever happen to pool if it works.
Humbug!!!! Promises, promises, promises.....No way the IPT will revive!
jay helfert said:
Well here in Colorado, Ted Haggard is asking people to send him cash so he can contiune his current lifestyle, why? because he said he's going through tough times and schooling and won't be able to get back on his feet for two years. He never said that he would pay you back, he just wants you to send him CASH so he's able to continue his current lifestyle. I'm sure he'll say he will PRAY for you, but since he's a liar, he probably won't...but thats ok, because he said he will.........PRAY THAT HE GETS YOUR MONEY, NOW THAT IS A SAFE BET.
Based on past history a promise from Trudough is a "lie" by definition. You can count on whatever he promises to NOT happen!
What a really pathetic testimony for the current and future state of professional pool.
It's like a combination of the Pied Piper and The Emperor's New Clothes fairy tales.
It's very puzzling why so many people involved in the pool community are seemingly willing to place it's entire future based upon the pleasures and actions of a convicted felon and huckster like Kevin Trudeau.
Statements like "he has paid out more than anyone else in the history of pool" may be true, but the majority of that money went to the very few elite players and, on average, the damage he has caused to most players far exceeds any good done to those lucky few.
The black eye that he has inflicted upon the general perception of pool as a sport, not only by his deceit and failure to honor his debts, but also simply by the association to him, is uncountable.
Anyone so impressed by the first class tournament venues can be a guest at any one of the hotels for less than the money thrown away on one of his qualifiers to nowhere. Simple math. Besides, his new plan no longer includes that type of tournament.
I guess that most are simply willing to accept any business opportunity thrown their way, regardless of it's chance for success, or who is doing the throwing.
Those that ignore history will be forced to repeat it.
Jim
It's like a combination of the Pied Piper and The Emperor's New Clothes fairy tales.
It's very puzzling why so many people involved in the pool community are seemingly willing to place it's entire future based upon the pleasures and actions of a convicted felon and huckster like Kevin Trudeau.
Statements like "he has paid out more than anyone else in the history of pool" may be true, but the majority of that money went to the very few elite players and, on average, the damage he has caused to most players far exceeds any good done to those lucky few.
The black eye that he has inflicted upon the general perception of pool as a sport, not only by his deceit and failure to honor his debts, but also simply by the association to him, is uncountable.
Anyone so impressed by the first class tournament venues can be a guest at any one of the hotels for less than the money thrown away on one of his qualifiers to nowhere. Simple math. Besides, his new plan no longer includes that type of tournament.
I guess that most are simply willing to accept any business opportunity thrown their way, regardless of it's chance for success, or who is doing the throwing.
Those that ignore history will be forced to repeat it.
Jim
In today's St. Pete Times newspaper:
Q: In March, I bought a copy of Kevin Trudeau's Weight Loss Cures from an ITV infomercial. I paid $39.90 and it carried a 30-day return policy.
During the order, I was asked if I wanted the newsletter and Web site privileges, but I declined.
Upon receipt of the book, I was automatically signed up for the newsletter and a seven-day trial for the Web site. I called to cancel, though out of curiosity I did access the Web site during the trial period.
I read some of the book and found it to be totally bizarre. I called to return it and was given a confirmation number. I sent it back with delivery confirmation. It arrived on March 24.
My April credit card statement did not reflect a credit for the book so I called customer service at ITV and was told the credit would take between 30 and 60 days.
My May statement showed no credit, but I did have a charge for $9.95. A representative said it was for the Web site. I asked her to cancel it, which she agreed to do. She also said there was a backup in return credits.
When my June statement came, there was still no credit, and yet another charge for $9.95. Another representative explained the company's refund procedure was being revamped and I needed to wait another 30 to 60 days. She also determined I had two accounts with different spellings of my name and that's why I was still being billed for the Web site. I asked to speak with a supervisor, but was told no one could come to the phone.
There seems to be no end to these charges.
Diveda Spector
A: Vice president of ITV customer service, Catherine Ratcliffe, sent a short note saying your issue has been resolved. I hope this is the case.
On Sept. 11, 2006, ITV Direct announced that it had partnered with Trudeau to market both of his "Natural Cures" books. There is no information about the partnership at ITV Direct's corporate Web site, but the infomercials have continued to run.
Trudeau has criminal convictions for larceny and fraud. A federal case in 1991 alleged Trudeau misappropriated, for his own use, the credit card numbers of customers of the memory-improvement courses that he offered at the time. He pleaded guilty and spent nearly two years in prison.
His marketing firm, Trudeau Marketing Group, then partnered with multilevel marketing firm Nutrition for Life International Inc.
In 1996, a class-action lawsuit was filed against Nutrition for Life International and Trudeau Marketing Group on behalf of common stock purchasers in Texas. In part, it charged the companies with "misrepresenting and/or omitting material information concerning NLI's business, marketing efforts, sales and earnings." The suit was settled for $2-million in cash to the plaintiffs, plus attorney fees.
In 1998, Trudeau signed an agreement with the Federal Trade Commission barring him from making false claims about products he was marketing. He was accused of violating the agreement in 2003 by claiming coral calcium was a cure for cancer, among other things. The FTC filed a preliminary injunction.
A court found Trudeau in contempt for violating this preliminary injunction.
He signed another agreement with the FTC that banned him "from appearing in, producing, or disseminating infomercials that advertise any product, service or program." In addition, he may not use any advertising medium to make disease prevention or health benefit claims for any product, program or service.
His book, The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You to Know About, has been on the New York Times best seller list for seven weeks.
To read the FTC's entire statement on the settlement, visit www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.shtm.
Credit: ACTION
Q: In March, I bought a copy of Kevin Trudeau's Weight Loss Cures from an ITV infomercial. I paid $39.90 and it carried a 30-day return policy.
During the order, I was asked if I wanted the newsletter and Web site privileges, but I declined.
Upon receipt of the book, I was automatically signed up for the newsletter and a seven-day trial for the Web site. I called to cancel, though out of curiosity I did access the Web site during the trial period.
I read some of the book and found it to be totally bizarre. I called to return it and was given a confirmation number. I sent it back with delivery confirmation. It arrived on March 24.
My April credit card statement did not reflect a credit for the book so I called customer service at ITV and was told the credit would take between 30 and 60 days.
My May statement showed no credit, but I did have a charge for $9.95. A representative said it was for the Web site. I asked her to cancel it, which she agreed to do. She also said there was a backup in return credits.
When my June statement came, there was still no credit, and yet another charge for $9.95. Another representative explained the company's refund procedure was being revamped and I needed to wait another 30 to 60 days. She also determined I had two accounts with different spellings of my name and that's why I was still being billed for the Web site. I asked to speak with a supervisor, but was told no one could come to the phone.
There seems to be no end to these charges.
Diveda Spector
A: Vice president of ITV customer service, Catherine Ratcliffe, sent a short note saying your issue has been resolved. I hope this is the case.
On Sept. 11, 2006, ITV Direct announced that it had partnered with Trudeau to market both of his "Natural Cures" books. There is no information about the partnership at ITV Direct's corporate Web site, but the infomercials have continued to run.
Trudeau has criminal convictions for larceny and fraud. A federal case in 1991 alleged Trudeau misappropriated, for his own use, the credit card numbers of customers of the memory-improvement courses that he offered at the time. He pleaded guilty and spent nearly two years in prison.
His marketing firm, Trudeau Marketing Group, then partnered with multilevel marketing firm Nutrition for Life International Inc.
In 1996, a class-action lawsuit was filed against Nutrition for Life International and Trudeau Marketing Group on behalf of common stock purchasers in Texas. In part, it charged the companies with "misrepresenting and/or omitting material information concerning NLI's business, marketing efforts, sales and earnings." The suit was settled for $2-million in cash to the plaintiffs, plus attorney fees.
In 1998, Trudeau signed an agreement with the Federal Trade Commission barring him from making false claims about products he was marketing. He was accused of violating the agreement in 2003 by claiming coral calcium was a cure for cancer, among other things. The FTC filed a preliminary injunction.
A court found Trudeau in contempt for violating this preliminary injunction.
He signed another agreement with the FTC that banned him "from appearing in, producing, or disseminating infomercials that advertise any product, service or program." In addition, he may not use any advertising medium to make disease prevention or health benefit claims for any product, program or service.
His book, The Weight Loss Cure They Don't Want You to Know About, has been on the New York Times best seller list for seven weeks.
To read the FTC's entire statement on the settlement, visit www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.shtm.
Credit: ACTION
LILJOHN30 said:
DEPENDS.
Doug
( no, I meant your avatar, are those Depends ? )
I hope I'm wrong, but...
These one on one matches might be a clever way of dividing the players.
The only way to prove they're not is to pay everyone what they are owed before any new matches occur.
Any individual who agrees to play in one of these one on one matches before everyone is fully and fairly compensated to date is taking a huge risk of looking like a complete tool if this thing goes sour.
These one on one matches might be a clever way of dividing the players.
The only way to prove they're not is to pay everyone what they are owed before any new matches occur.
Any individual who agrees to play in one of these one on one matches before everyone is fully and fairly compensated to date is taking a huge risk of looking like a complete tool if this thing goes sour.
Da Poet said:
Yeah, and the girls might be a 'monkey wench'....
D.
It sounds like the IPT is planning on doing a lot of talking in the coming months.
It took awhille for the IPT to listen to the players.
Now they want to broadcast messages to the players thinking the players will be so low on cash they will comply. I've been watching the news and even the president has trouble motivating his staff which has led to resignations.
The IPT notice does maintain all the standards trying to move in the right direction. So why hasn't he just done it, does he think providing more excuses will pay the bills of the players.
The players gave the IPT a chance, [despite future payments(late)] the players do have a negotiating option to ask for a reason of why they should give the IPT another chance(ie: cash upfront, discounted travel and room, etc...). Why should the players have to pay upfront to give the IPT a second chance to pay late?
It took awhille for the IPT to listen to the players.
Now they want to broadcast messages to the players thinking the players will be so low on cash they will comply. I've been watching the news and even the president has trouble motivating his staff which has led to resignations.
The IPT notice does maintain all the standards trying to move in the right direction. So why hasn't he just done it, does he think providing more excuses will pay the bills of the players.
The players gave the IPT a chance, [despite future payments(late)] the players do have a negotiating option to ask for a reason of why they should give the IPT another chance(ie: cash upfront, discounted travel and room, etc...). Why should the players have to pay upfront to give the IPT a second chance to pay late?
justnum said:
I also found it "ironic" when just a few days before the TD post James Walden was seeking legal action....24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day, coincidence, NOT.