Detroit action today?! Cohen vs Kirkwood

eddieindetroit

eddieindetroit

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I heard last night that J. Kirkwood and T. Cohen are set to play ten ball today at 3:00 at Hall of Fame billiards. Pretty large set. Two of the best players from the States. Should be a great match. I noticed Wiseman and Bartrum in attendance as well - something else always likely to jump off with either of those to for sure.

Sadly, I don't think I'm going to be able to check out the action, but will post an update if possible.

Eddie
 
eddieindetroit said:
I heard last night that J. Kirkwood and T. Cohen are set to play ten ball today at 3:00 at Hall of Fame billiards. Pretty large set. Two of the best players from the States. Should be a great match. I noticed Wiseman and Bartrum in attendance as well - something else always likely to jump off with either of those to for sure.

Sadly, I don't think I'm going to be able to check out the action, but will post an update if possible.

Eddie
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An update will be appreciated. Are they playing a race or an ahead set?

GO JASON!

Steve
 
well well....................................do tell.................lets hear it
 
update

as of 6:45 tony was up 4 games. i am planing on heading over there shortley and will update when i get home.
 
I just talked to bartram and he told me tony was up 7 and JK has it down to 3 now. I will still take JK for hundred though even though he is down. Chris told me both players were playing aweful.
 
Here is a situation where I would love to see Jason take it off, but I can't bet because T-Rex has to be the favorite here. He has a little bigger game. Jason could pull an upset though. I'D LOVE IT!
 
I watch them both gamle alot. The problem is JK has not had any big table action for awhlie. If he was playing alot he would be a large favorite. Chris just told Tony is back up 6 and both are still playing terrible. Just my opinion I still lose a great deal of bets.
 
this is all i will probably know.

i just got a call to tell me they are playing 10 ahead 10-ball for 6k and as of 8:00 tony was up 6.

M.C.
 
curlyscues said:
this is all i will probably know.

i just got a call to tell me they are playing 10 ahead 10-ball for 6k and as of 8:00 tony was up 6.

M.C.
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i was wrong just got a call saying tony won
 
poolsucker said:
I watch them both gamle alot. The problem is JK has not had any big table action for awhlie. If he was playing alot he would be a large favorite. Chris just told Tony is back up 6 and both are still playing terrible. Just my opinion I still lose a great deal of bets.
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I'm calling shenanigans here.

SHENANIGANS, I say! :D :D :D :D

NObody is a BIG favorite over Tony Chohan gambling, except MAYBE Orcullo, Reyes, Van Boening, Stevie Moore, and Corey, and a few of the other players who are a threat to win any world class event. Anybody else can pretty much get played even and get played hard.

Also, Tony has proven in Florida he is an upper echelon pro in 10 ball. There is a biiiiig difference between an upper echelon pro and everyone else. Look at the areas the two players have historically played in. I'm thinking California is a little tougher to fade than JK's area.

The way I see it, Chohan has DOMINATED his area, and shot almost everyone down for the big cash, wherever he has gone. Kirkwood has simply won a bit more than his fair share.

Saying Jason is a favorite even up against Chohan sounds like a local player backing his local man, but not aware of just how horrendously strong Chohan is. :D :D :D I think if you have seen both of them gambling a lot, and you think Kirkwood is a favorite at any time on a 9 footer, then you either don't know what yer looking at, or Tony was laying down, playing well enough to win.. He is known to do that, ya know... :D

I'm thinking that even playing his best, in a long ahead set, Kirkwood has to catch a gear to win. Chohan simply needs to play his normal game. Yes, it is completely possible for Kirkwood to win, but saying he is the favorite is ridiculous.

Russ
 
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Russ Chewning said:
I'm calling shenanigans here.

SHENANIGANS, I say! :D :D :D :D

NObody is a BIG favorite over Tony Chohan gambling, except MAYBE Orcullo, Reyes, Van Boening, Stevie Moore, and Corey, and a few of the other players who are a threat to win any world class event. Anybody else can pretty much get played even and get played hard.

Also, Tony has proven in Florida he is an upper echelon pro in 10 ball. There is a biiiiig difference between an upper echelon pro and everyone else. Look at the areas the two players have historically played in. I'm thinking California is a little tougher to fade than JK's area.

The way I see it, Chohan has DOMINATED his area, and shot almost everyone down for the big cash, wherever he has gone. Kirkwood has simply won a bit more than his fair share.

Saying Jason is a favorite even up against Chohan sounds like a local player backing his local man, but not aware of just how horrendously strong Chohan is. :D :D :D I think if you have seen both of them gambling a lot, and you think Kirkwood is a favorite at any time on a 9 footer, then you either don't know what yer looking at, or Tony was laying down, playing well enough to win.. He is known to do that, ya know... :D

I'm thinking that even playing his best, in a long ahead set, Kirkwood has to catch a gear to win. Chohan simply needs to play his normal game. Yes, it is completely possible for Kirkwood to win, but saying he is the favorite is ridiculous.

Russ
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on the baby tables he would actually be the fav-o-rite russy!:D other than that youre spot on.
 
Chris B. just offered tony to play another set on the next table over for 9k against either chris or jason and they turned him down.

so obviously somebody has faith.

M.C.
 
Russ Chewning said:
I'm calling shenanigans here.

SHENANIGANS, I say! :D :D :D :D

NObody is a BIG favorite over Tony Chohan gambling, except MAYBE Orcullo, Reyes, Van Boening, Stevie Moore, and Corey, and a few of the other players who are a threat to win any world class event. Anybody else can pretty much get played even and get played hard.

Also, Tony has proven in Florida he is an upper echelon pro in 10 ball. There is a biiiiig difference between an upper echelon pro and everyone else. Look at the areas the two players have historically played in. I'm thinking California is a little tougher to fade than JK's area.

The way I see it, Chohan has DOMINATED his area, and shot almost everyone down for the big cash, wherever he has gone. Kirkwood has simply won a bit more than his fair share.

Saying Jason is a favorite even up against Chohan sounds like a local player backing his local man, but not aware of just how horrendously strong Chohan is. :D :D :D I think if you have seen both of them gambling a lot, and you think Kirkwood is a favorite at any time on a 9 footer, then you either don't know what yer looking at, or Tony was laying down, playing well enough to win.. He is known to do that, ya know... :D

I'm thinking that even playing his best, in a long ahead set, Kirkwood has to catch a gear to win. Chohan simply needs to play his normal game. Yes, it is completely possible for Kirkwood to win, but saying he is the favorite is ridiculous.

Russ
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Playing on the big track, JK is not the favorite and I don't like his end at all. On the 7' box I like Jason as a lot of others probably would as well.

I have a lot of respect for Tony's game and I think he is one of the better players in the country. I would love to see a matchup between Tony and Shannon D playin' a little onehole for some cabbage. I think that would be a great matchup and according to Cardone TC would have to be favored in the match. If it happens I will put a little sweat on SD jsut because I like to fade the dogs.[
 
Eh..

Mebbe so.. But then again, it wouldn't be the first time a pro not well known for bar table pool stepped up and knocked off a bar table champion and surprised a few people... :D :D :D

I had no idea Cliff Joyner was a bar table monster until he placed high in a big bar table tournament.. Was that the US Bar Table Championship?

Let's keep in mind that just because a player wins alllllllll the bar table tournaments in his area, doesn't mean he's a bar table champion.. Mike Zimmerman used to win 2 out of 3 bar table tournaments in WA, OR, and Montana.. I would never think to put him up against any well known pro on the barbox, though.. (Sorry, Linda!) He just had issues when playing the superpros... Did he have the technical ability to beat them? Yes.. He just had a little bit of trouble with players of that speed.

JMHO.. I did see a lot of bar table pool in WA and OR, but never thought that anybody from that area was a threat against players like Medina, Deuel, Archer, etc.. Even though the WA and OR players had won US Bar Table Championships.... Not denigrating those great players at all, but on the barbox, playing a race to 7 or 9 in a tournament is a completely different animal than having a guy run 3-5 racks on you in a 10 ahead gambling match, and having a delicate shot that you have to take and get good position on, and no way to avoid selling out if you miss..

Russ
 
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