Deuel's Rail Jump

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Corey was warming up before a match (just throwing nine balls out and making them in order) and was faced with this shot - nearly straight on against the five, and the bank closed due to three blocking balls.

Instead, Cory did a mini-jump into the five, which jumped the five slightly against the rail, where it rebounded and flew all the way across the table (albeit at a very low height) directly into the corner pocket. He did it while chit-chatting with a pal and without giving it much thought and his usual four whole seconds of pre-shot routine. :eek: :eek:

The friend's remark? "You're sick, dude. Just sick." :) :D

P.S. This is probably something almost every capable pro could do, but I'd never seen it before and it was quite impressive.
 
Just shows how great those players are. Most of us that some thing are great shooters would not be able to make the simple bank.

Thanks for sharing. Will have to work on it and add it to my arsenal. Would make a grand finale in a 8 ball game.
 
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Since we are not allowed one word respones to threads, I wrote all this just to say:


BEAUTIFUL!
 
That's the thing. Watching a guy shoot in game is one thing. They are playing the percentages.

But in practice, you get a rare opportunity to witness some great shots that they might not go for during a match.
 
how do u make the 5 jump from the rail :confused: . Draw the cb to transfer the backspin into topspin on the 5? id like to add this shot to my arsenal too.
 
Solartje said:
how do u make the 5 jump from the rail :confused: . Draw the cb to transfer the backspin into topspin on the 5? id like to add this shot to my arsenal too.
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You've got to jump the CB a little so that it sends the 5 ball off the surface maybe 1/4" high when it hits the rail.

Extremely hard shot to play consistantly unless you practice that one shot on the one table and work out the speed and elevation and angle. That's why we don't see these kinds of shots in real matches...at least I haven't. Would be great to see though!
 
aah thx colin :) i supose the cb needs to land/hit on the 5 before it lands on the table right? i know most would never do this, but most of these shots are shots a snooker player (even top pro's) would never play, and me being a old snooker player, these are exactly the shots that interest me in learning even if i would almost never use them... U never know.
 
Wayne Norcross performed that shot in the opening credits of "The Baltimore Bullet". He played world class straight pool in the '70's, and still runs a hundred now and then. He's the TD at Danny'K's.
 
What a shot. I've noticed that Corey seems to have more advanced pool knowledge than most of his peers. Looking at the ball layout got me thinking that, in the old "pre-Texas Express" days, shots like that were attempted (for sure if Earl was up). Now, every player would simply duck. I appreciate safety play as much as anybody, but we never get to see the entire offensive arsenal of what some of these players can do. You haven't REALLY seen 9-ball at its apex until you've seen Earl or Buddy or Nick or Rempe or Sigel step up to the table faced with some impossible-looking shot, and instead of passing it back to their opponent, firing it in and running out. Does anyone else miss the old 2-shot push-out rules in 9-ball?
 
JohnnyP said:
Wayne Norcross performed that shot in the opening credits of "The Baltimore Bullet". He played world class straight pool in the '70's, and still runs a hundred now and then. He's the TD at Danny'K's.
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tap! TAP!

I've seen Wayne demo this shot several times- luv it!!

Ask Wayne about Masconi calling (any) ball "in the side", then take that ball, put on the headstring about 1 diamond from the side rail (to avoid the lights over the table), then mini-jump it down to the end rail, launching it in the air the length of the table as it rebounds back to you and catch it in the air about chest high, then put in his side pants pocket. Fun but dangerous.

3railkick
 
jnav447 said:
What a shot. I've noticed that Corey seems to have more advanced pool knowledge than most of his peers. Looking at the ball layout got me thinking that, in the old "pre-Texas Express" days, shots like that were attempted (for sure if Earl was up). Now, every player would simply duck. I appreciate safety play as much as anybody, but we never get to see the entire offensive arsenal of what some of these players can do. You haven't REALLY seen 9-ball at its apex until you've seen Earl or Buddy or Nick or Rempe or Sigel step up to the table faced with some impossible-looking shot, and instead of passing it back to their opponent, firing it in and running out. Does anyone else miss the old 2-shot push-out rules in 9-ball?
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Nav-man,
You couldn't be more correct. The phenomenon you describe is even more apparent at the DCC. The "race to 7" 9-ball has that room full of world beaters passing on any shot that your grandmother couldn't make (apologies to your grandmother if she's a monster player). The 2 extremely notable exceptions are George Breedlove and Efren Reyes (and I think Earl too at times, depends which Earl shows up) - at least they have the gumption to pull out their arsenal when it is needed. Kudo's to C.J. Wiley in the 8-ball for also "bringing it" - it would be great to see him start playing again, 'cause he also has some serious firepower.

Do you not also miss "ball in hand in the kitchen"???? Players of this caliber deserve to be challenged a little bit.
 
Williebetmore said:
Nav-man,
You couldn't be more correct. The phenomenon you describe is even more apparent at the DCC. The "race to 7" 9-ball has that room full of world beaters passing on any shot that your grandmother couldn't make (apologies to your grandmother if she's a monster player). The 2 extremely notable exceptions are George Breedlove and Efren Reyes (and I think Earl too at times, depends which Earl shows up) - at least they have the gumption to pull out their arsenal when it is needed. Kudo's to C.J. Wiley in the 8-ball for also "bringing it" - it would be great to see him start playing again, 'cause he also has some serious firepower.

Do you not also miss "ball in hand in the kitchen"???? Players of this caliber deserve to be challenged a little bit.
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As you likely know, CJ Wiley played at the IPT qualifier last weekend. Good to see him out and about.

3railkick
 
Solartje said:
... but most of these shots are shots a snooker player (even top pro's) would never play, and me being a old snooker player, ...
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Here's another: put the eight ball on the spot. Place the cue ball for a straight-in shot to a corner pocket. Freeze a ball on each side of the eight. Now move the eight towards the cue ball so that if you hit it perfectly it would go through the one-ball gap straight into the corner pocket. Elevate slightly and shoot hard, and the eight will leave the table slightly and clear the gap. You have to be a little careful as the cue ball will also leave the table and may not land where you want.

I believe making an object ball jump over another object ball is legal at snooker.

If you're interested in such shots at pool, you may want to get some books on trick shots. Massey, Byrne, Varner, Caras, Herrmann. There are also books of special shots that aren't necessarily trick shots, such as the new book by Byrne and the classic by Martin.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I believe making an object ball jump over another object ball is legal at snooker.
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I may have heard wrong, but I was always told that in snooker if the cue ball leaves the bed of the table in any way, that it was a foul.
 
Colin Colenso said:
You've got to jump the CB a little so that it sends the 5 ball off the surface maybe 1/4" high when it hits the rail.

Extremely hard shot to play consistantly unless you practice that one shot on the one table and work out the speed and elevation and angle. That's why we don't see these kinds of shots in real matches...at least I haven't. Would be great to see though!
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All good pool players need to be able to make an object ball jump over the edge of another object ball if you got no pocket. You just need to get it in the air a little bit by jacking up exactly like Colin says....
 
This past WPBA season Ga Young Kim pulled off a similar rail jump to get out of a safety that Karen Corr used on her. It was wild...the announcers were trying to figure out if she'd use a two or three rail bank to escape the safety...instead she shot straight into the rail and made the cueball jump a blocker in order to make contact. All of this took place between 1 diamond on short rail and 2 diamonds on long rail.:eek:
Corr still won though.

Terry
 
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jnav447 said:
What a shot. I've noticed that Corey seems to have more advanced pool knowledge than most of his peers. Looking at the ball layout got me thinking that, in the old "pre-Texas Express" days, shots like that were attempted (for sure if Earl was up). Now, every player would simply duck. I appreciate safety play as much as anybody, but we never get to see the entire offensive arsenal of what some of these players can do. You haven't REALLY seen 9-ball at its apex until you've seen Earl or Buddy or Nick or Rempe or Sigel step up to the table faced with some impossible-looking shot, and instead of passing it back to their opponent, firing it in and running out. Does anyone else miss the old 2-shot push-out rules in 9-ball?
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Yes I most definitely missed 2-shot-shoot-out. This shot of Corey's is a perfect example of how 9-Ball used to be an exciting game. Ask any of the old school and they will probably say the same thing.

While 1-miss-ball-in-hand did speed up the game, it also made the game way too boring. Run-duck-run-duck... This did make one player infamous - "Captain Hook." Boring. Ya might as well watch Sugar Ray Leonard box, if that's what you want to call it. Now Hagler or Duran is a whole different story, much like Louie Roberts or Jim Mataya.

For the record I saw Cole Dixon make a very similar shot (like Corey's) about 30 years ago. It was case game and he got out. That my friends was awesome and much more entertaining than today's players.
 
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