Did Earl resign vs Roberts?

Jayson is very generous with this info. If you corner him during some downtime at any tournament he we freely show you how to set up the rack and how to hit it in different ways to make certain balls.

He likes to demonstrate his knowledge, and I believe he wants people to be more aware as a whole of what to look for when disseminating this information. I don't think that many who have met him would describe him as being either shy or concealing.
 
Danimal said:
Jayson is very generous with this info. If you corner him during some downtime at any tournament he we freely show you how to set up the rack and how to hit it in different ways to make certain balls.

He likes to demonstrate his knowledge, and I believe he wants people to be more aware as a whole of what to look for when disseminating this information. I don't think that many who have met him would describe him as being either shy or concealing.
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If I can rack for you (old style tourneys), then I can give you a slug rack every time if I want to and you probably won't spot it. It has to do with the back two balls, that's all I'm saying. Joe Tucker knows exactly what I'm talking about.
 
Donny Mills

Since we're talking about wing balls and pattern racking, let me remind everyone of what Donny Mills showed off in TAR17. Most amazing thing I've seen.

Notice how the 3 ball caroms off the 6 ball and then heads up table. The 1,2,3 are left on the head end of the table and the 6,7,8,9 are at the foot of the table.

He did this over and over.
 

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jay helfert said:
If I can rack for you (old style tourneys), then I can give you a slug rack every time if I want to and you probably won't spot it. It has to do with the back two balls, that's all I'm saying. Joe Tucker knows exactly what I'm talking about.
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One of the slug racking methods was to have the numbers touching each other.

But the balls are made better now....and in tournaments, the balls are new, which makes
this trick impossible.
 
Bob Jewett said:
A little background. Before the tournament started, Jason Shaw gave a little demo on racking for those who happened to be around his table. "If I rack tight like this with all the balls touching, this happens..." and the wing ball hits short on the long rail or goes slowly towards the corner pocket and gets kissed out. "And if I rack like this, with this gap here -- just a tiny little space...." the wing ball goes screaming into the corner pocket.

It turns out that the tiny little space is not that hard to make.

It also turns out that it's not that hard to see from the stands when that tiny little space is there since the wing ball goes screaming into the corner pocket.

Maybe Paul Schofield and Joe Tucker are right.

I also saw Souquet point out to his opponent that the opponent had made one of the cheat racks. The opponent stopped doing it.
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Would it reduce some of the racking stuff if they switched to 10 ball? If so would it ruin the tournament if they simply changed it to 10 ball to reduce some of the racking drama?
 
alstl said:
Would it reduce some of the racking stuff if they switched to 10 ball? If so would it ruin the tournament if they simply changed it to 10 ball to reduce some of the racking drama?
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IT's called "U.S. Open 9-Ball Championships". There is another tournament called "U.S. Open 10 Ball Championships".
 
alstl said:
Would it reduce some of the racking stuff if they switched to 10 ball? If so would it ruin the tournament if they simply changed it to 10 ball to reduce some of the racking drama?
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As long as there is a ball-on-the-break requirement, there will always be racking issues, no matter what game is played. Figure it out. I must tell you, I have run 23 regional events and 4 pro events in the last 7 years with none of the problems discussed so extensively on this forum.

One of the things that I like so much about our sport is that it is first and foremost, a local sport. I am able to fix rules in my locale.
 
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Paul Schofield said:
I must tell you, I have run 23 regional events and 4 pro events in the last 7 years with none of the problems discussed so extensively on this forum.
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Might that be because you're talking about amateur events? The lower the B&R percentage, the less players are going to argue about the rack.


At the extreme, if you're talking about league night where there are on-average two misses per player per rack, the breaking of the 9-ball rack is not a critical advantage; it's just a way to start the game.
 
jeffj2h said:
Might that be because you're talking about amateur events? The lower the B&R percentage, the less players are going to argue about the rack.


At the extreme, if you're talking about league night where there are on-average two misses per player per rack, the breaking of the 9-ball rack is not a critical advantage; it's just a way to start the game.
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Stop it with that logic. :grin:
 
Gee.
Let the players rack their own and watch them cheat their brains out.

Rack your own = trusting players to be honest = ridiculous.
 
Paul Schofield said:
As long as there is a ball-on-the-break requirement, there will always be racking issues, no matter what game is played. Figure it out. I must tell you, I have run 23 regional events and 4 pro events in the last 7 years with none of the problems discussed so extensively on this forum.

One of the things that I like so much about our sport is that it is first and foremost, a local sport. I am able to fix rules in my locale.
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I'm talking about 9 ball at the pro level today where rack mechanics gain a significant advantage. In local events I doubt you have dozens of players who are capable of stringing together multiple racks if they can wire a ball on the break.
 
alstl said:
Would it reduce some of the racking stuff if they switched to 10 ball? If so would it ruin the tournament if they simply changed it to 10 ball to reduce some of the racking drama?
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This a 9-ball tournament, not a 10-ball tournament.

Why not change it to a 83 ball rack?

It is 9-ball, get rid of the gimmicks and play it "old school".
 
westcoast said:
This is all very strange- why exactly did Earl quit? He was offended that Roberts was offended? :confused::confused:
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:cool:



Earl probably got the shits of the game and didn't feel like being there anymore.


Kind of weird that a couple other players forfeited matches and nothing is said about it.:shocked:



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