Did SVB Cheat Earl on the Break in TAR 22?

Why do you think I want to play you? Do you think I believe I will learn anything or pick up a couple of bucks? It's so that when you talk out of your a$$ (see thread above) you can be told to sit down and be quiet. Speaking your mind is your right. Slagging a World Champ and HOF from your mothers basement is offensive. Do you see anyone above coming to your defense? The man played world class...this is undeniable. The man is older than he once was (do you think Donovan Bailey runs as fast as he did 10 years ago..,father time gets us all). I believe he's still Top 20 type speed and when he's on and his meds are perfect he has a 7th gear that almost nobody possesses.

Did you even see the stream? Some of the shots he attempted and speared into the pocket I would not even phantom to attempt or be favored to execute one in 5 times. Whiles he's playing the possibly the best player in the world who ran a seven pack on that equipment. Now slither off and be quiet.

Nick

this is a forum and we are aloud to talk about what ever we want too thats pool related!! im giving my opinion on earl. Sorry Nick i own a house, no mommies basement here!
 
ok i guess im wrong? sure wish someone would educate me with facts, im ok with changing my opinion on something and admitting im wrong?

Post up and see who'll play him some. The Action room is right over there... :wave2: Is Daz a top-tier player to you? Ask him how many games he'll spot Earl. I'm guessing it'll look something like this.. :killingme:
 
it looks like people are aloud to cut up earls personality and character but dont talk about his game or you get stepped on :cool:
 
it looks like people are aloud to cut up earls personality and character but dont talk about his game or you get stepped on :cool:

You are free to whatever opinion you choose to have. The game I have watched Earl display is as good at times as anyone in the world. I believe, like many others, that his actions take away from his game to the point where he self destructs. Earl is his own worst enemy.

Seems strange to think that he can't play with the top tier players. You haven't given any evidence to the contrary despite the titles that have been suggested to you. You can have an opinion, but without a thoughtful explanation of the reasoning behind it, an opinion doesn't carry much weight.
 
I don't believe there were any breaking stipulations, other than 9 ball on the spot.

Earl was pissed off that Shane wasn't breaking them hard enough. I remember him saying at one point that Shane "wasn't even making a legal break". I think he was referring to him not breaking hard enough to get 3 balls up to the headstring.

I feel that if they didn't have any stipulations to break hard, Shane was well withing his right to play how he needed to in order to win the money. I really thought he wasn't breaking soft - it wasn't a Donnie Mills/Corey break. Shane's was more a medium speed break.

Shane is a more cerebral player and payed attention to how the balls were breaking. He changed his spin and speed to start making balls and get a shot on the one. Earl was blasting them and hoping to get a shot while Shane was playing for a shot.

If Earl didn't like it, he should have payed attention to how SVB was hitting them and mimick it. Other than doing that, he didn't have a leg to stand on in his complaint.



There is no reason to read beyond post #2 above folks.... Earl only has himself to blame for not adjusting and following suit if Shane had solved the sweet spot/speed on this particular table.... U see top players follow the other ALL the time if one of the two finds success... $hit, I'm a B player and do it myself.... I really was curious what Earl would cry about postmatch since SVB pretty much agreed to all his stipulations beforehand....


Congrats SVB for fading the unfadeable.... :thumbup:
 
Man, some of you guys must have never spent much time gambling in your pool playing careers I swear. Shane wasn't breaking the rack wide open anymore because he found on on day 1, all that hard breaking he was doing was just helping Earl beat him, by not making a ball on the break and being able to run out from there. Think about it, if Shane broke wide open but didn't make a ball, all he was doing was turning over the table to Earl, like he broke and made a ball...so, run out from there Earl. Day 2 Shane figured out how to STOP helping Earl, but not breaking the rack so wide open, giving Earl the chance to run...then playing clean up after Earl failed to finish for the win...SMART POOL PLAYING if you want my opinion, Earl just didn't catch on because he didn't expect Shane to switch up on his break after day 1, he had him and he knew it...if Shane would have just continued down that same path...but he didn't, and it cost Earl in the long run...because he then fell victim to his own game....bait and switch gears. It's who ever makes the most 9's that wins, not who ever runs the most racks!!!!!!

Glen

Not totally accurate. Near mid way on day 3 when Shane was pattern racking and breaking with medium speed he normally made a ball and the 1 was near the 1 hole and the 2 was near the 2 hole and he ran out. But the table was still wide open. He never soft broke to keep the balls clustered up based on what I watched.
 
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You are free to whatever opinion you choose to have. The game I have watched Earl display is as good at times as anyone in the world. I believe, like many others, that his actions take away from his game to the point where he self destructs. Earl is his own worst enemy.

Seems strange to think that he can't play with the top tier players. You haven't given any evidence to the contrary despite the titles that have been suggested to you. You can have an opinion, but without a thoughtful explanation of the reasoning behind it, an opinion doesn't carry much weight.

I honestly thought Earl was going to win when is was 65-64. But the demons surfaced and it was like a switch went off and he was done. Kind of sad. Shane faded all the BS and out ran the antics. Kind of amazing to me.
 
i do have an opinion i am not afraid to share on here.

Aww, aren't you a special little butterfly!

Welcome to AZBilliards, most of us have opinions and are not afraid to share them. Yours just happens to be wrong is the only difference.
 
Not totally accurate. Near mid way on day 3 when Shane was pattern racking and breaking with medium speed he normally made a ball and the 1 was near the 1 hole and the 2 was near the 2 hole and he ran out. But the table was still wide open. He never soft broke to keep the balls clustered up based on what I watched.

Never said Shane soft broke the rack, just said he backed off from what he was doing to break the balls on day 1 because it wasn't working for him.
 
Earl wants to play the game from the 80's and can not play the game of 2010.
I agree with Champ on a few of his comments.I think the difference in Earls game is,at one time his game controlled his emotions and now his emotions control his game.
 
Never said Shane soft broke the rack, just said he backed off from what he was doing to break the balls on day 1 because it wasn't working for him.

Sorry. Thought you were implying that Shane was breaking in a fashion to cluster the balls. I thought near the end he was breaking perfect, making a ball or two and leaving himself a Cozmo.

Cheers
 
This is ridiculous! You guys on this board think earl is a pool god. He won all his championships when it was mostly american players playing and the fields are half as strong as they are now. He is as good as he always was now but the competition has gotten a lot better. He has the prettiest game/stroke to watch but that's not good enough to win now days, him and archer are now second tier players..ijs

WOW. By far the biggest idiot post of the year, and coming from a guy who admits can't play pool a lick.

Oh, by the way, maybe check out Earl and see exactly what he has "won" lately... I know you guys are a little slow in the north, but I'm sure you can spell google.

Another "banger expert" on all things billiards.... very well played sir :)
 
haha, love you internet tough guys :thumbup: and how was the game tougher in the 80's than now, retard?

Champ, I don't need to attack you personally. You're getting enough of that from everyone else. Unfortunately, you brought it on yourself and it's well deserved.

Dude, you already admitted that you're not a good player, so you may not understand why the game was more difficult back in the 80's. The main reason...the cloth! The Simonis cloth that they play with in today's game makes it easier to move the cue ball around without much need for a stroke. I'm not saying that the players today don't have a good stroke, but you'll be hard pressed to find ANYONE with a more powerful and accurate stroke like the one Earl has! Not to mention the quality of the balls was different as well.

That's only a couple of examples that I thought of and I know there are more. I'll let the people on here that played in those days tell you more!

As far as the level of competition...you are way out of line! There were A LOT of great players in those days. You're just probably used to hearing of the players of today. But you had players like Buddy, Efren, Parica, Varner, Miz, Sigel, Rempe, Vickery, Howard, Davenport, Archer, Hopkins, Ellin, McCready, Griffis, Ortman, Soquet, Engert, Andam, Luat and many others. It was those players that made the game grow around the world into what it is today.

If I can share some advice; give some thoughts to your posts before you post them. Maybe read them over a couple of times before you hit "Submit". As you've seen, there are individuals on here that will let you have it if your post is not well thought out!

I wish you luck!
 
WOW. By far the biggest idiot post of the year, and coming from a guy who admits can't play pool a lick.

Oh, by the way, maybe check out Earl and see exactly what he has "won" lately... I know you guys are a little slow in the north, but I'm sure you can spell google.

Another "banger expert" on all things billiards.... very well played sir :)

I would play your hillbilly american ass anytime :thumbup: he was done at age 40, his game was on the down hill from there, his game never evolved like Efrens etc, he was nothing more than a potter. You can see by he rule changes he wants.
 
So Champ all I have to get is an American passport and you'll play me? What if I told you I was a hillbilly in training (please ignore the Starbucks cup).

Nick
 
You dumbass, you want to bash somebody because of their typing and look at what you do.

aloud<<ALLOWED

too<<to

champ<<hypocrite

You sir, are a blithering idiot. The game they played is a lot more difficult than today's rendition.

dont bash me first and you wont get bashed back, dumbass!

Coming from the guy that "sucks at pool" i think i will stick with my own edjucated opinion than run off at the mouth. it is clear to every one on this web site that the 2 push out rules, or this format played by shane and Earl is more difficult. The game isn't harder but the compitition and level of talent has deffinately improved. Earl is STILL one of the greatest players out there. He has done just as well as anyone has against SVB, and still win's and places well in tournaments.

You have been E'thuged now so be happy and go some where else to troll.

i just thought he above bold was funny dumbass that's why i did it :)
 
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So Champ all I have to get is an American passport and you'll play me? What if I told you I was a hillbilly in training (please ignore the Starbucks cup).

Nick

Nick i thought i explained it to you before? i said if your as irritating as you have been on here and your pms and on the phone, i don't think it would be a good thing for us to hook up in person :) unlike svb i have lil tolerance for pain in the ass big mouths :) and i was playing a friend (10 in the series) tonight who plays in the 404 series that john mora(11 in the series) plays in up here and i held my own also against him. I shared my opinion and you guys didn't like it so lets leave it at that.
 
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