Same reason 10k cues are made. Johnnyt
Difference In A $100 Cue And A $10,000 Cue
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Same reason 10k cues are made. Johnnyt
Efren is very picky about what he plays with...lots of evidence of that on AZ....
...doesn't have to be expensive....but expensive good cues are easier to find.
Anybody wanna tell this guy to sell his 2.5 million $ cello and get one at a pawn shop?
Where is that cue today?
Earl beat everyone on the planet with a $99 white Cuetec that you can buy today for about $50 online. I have a couple of them.
I lived in Angeles City, Philippines when Efren was there before he came to the USA. I could have bought cues from the same guy who made his for less than $20, but I never did.
I lived in Angeles City, Philippines when Efren was there before he came to the USA. I could have bought cues from the same guy who made his for less than $20, but I never did.
I still got one of those cues....and it's still straight...got it from one of the players that
Efren learned from.
Do you know the name of the cue maker?
You are sooooo awesome.
Jessie?
Actually his father made that cue. Efren won it in a match.
Had Jessie make an extra long shaft with cue ball ferrule.
Ace Hardware? Bit of an exaggeration. It was a PI made cue. Definitely much better than the clunky cues you mention, but definitely inexpensive.
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Great workmanship in PI.
Just some of the woods are.......?
I'm going to take Quality blanks with me and have a couple of pretty cues made.
Canadian made shafts for sure.
Workmanship and materials can be hit and miss. But certainly he wasn't playing with a ramin wood Budweiser cue. I feel confident it was a "decent" maple shaft.
They do use some unusual butt woods we don't see much here. And they often stain woods black to look like ebony. They have been notorious for using "green" ivory for inlays as well, which will crack because it isn't aged and stable.
I have three PI cues which are actually surprisingly good for what they cost me. All three have pretty decent maple shafts. Bought about 2006/7 and straight as can be. All three have ivory inlays that are in good shape. The only thing I notice in them is finish shrinkage over the years.
Reyes played with that cue long before people were buying aftermarket shafts, so I am confident he played the shaft that came with it.
I have no idea how or even if they stabilize their shaft wood.
Another issue is that if you get a Pampanga cue, those cues are made in shops open to the environment, not climate controlled. So humidity etc plays a part. And they do a lot of their work "by hand" with razor blades and chisels to do inlays etc, with modified wood lathes and other such things.
Very improvised by modern US standards. We do know that there are at least a couple "better" makers in PI, but I have no idea what their facilities or equipment are like.
If you take a seriously high quality US made blank down there, you are likely going to risk degrading the value of it by having it built out there IMHO.
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The shaft came a bowling alley shaft from an old military base bowling alley that closed.
The cue was really heavy and long. The shaft was really skinny too b/c Efren liked skinny shafts then. The checker rings were painted on . They looked like painted on dice. It had a steel joint and Philippine ebony forearm.
It favored Efren's stroke slip.
Today, Efren plays with a much lighter and shorter cues. Likes thicker shafts now too.
Efren finally sold that old cue b/c it already had a rattle and it was warped.
Nobody argues that a $10,000 cue is inherently a better playing cue than a $100 cue. Nobody. Ever.
Why do people start threads like this? To have phantom arguments? Yay, you win against a non-opponent. Masturbation can be fun.
Sorry, but everyone else who starts one of these tired posts, you're not the first or even the twentieth (fiftieth) to start this phantom argument. Everyone agrees. Nobody ever disagreed. You can't win because somebody else won before you, even though nobody was actually arguing.
I'll wait for another 3 months until someone brings up this new topic. Because it's so new. Soooooo new!!!
Freddie <~~~ hooray for expensive cues!!!
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Why do people start threads like this? To have phantom arguments? Yay, you win against a non-opponent. Masturbation can be fun.
Sorry, but everyone else who starts one of these tired posts, you're not the first or even the twentieth (fiftieth) to start this phantom argument. Everyone agrees. Nobody ever disagreed. You can't win because somebody else won before you, even though nobody was actually arguing.
I'll wait for another 3 months until someone brings up this new topic. Because it's so new. Soooooo new!!!
Freddie <~~~ hooray for expensive cues!!!
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Cheap cues are overrated also.
Ok, so........
Staying civil....
List the least expensive cues that are good shooters and readily available. Low-end, High-End, Customs.
List the best Entry Level Cue Brands and their Prices.
State Why.
With the High Quality Cues stay with their least expensive but nice models and prices.
State Why.
Compare the prices.
Study the why's.
Decide.
Buy.
Play.
Enjoy.
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Cost me around $75 dollars to make a cue that hits as good as a Meucci.
My J&J, Kaiser, and Rhino cues all hit fine on small tables.
I do have at least 50 cues made in the Philippines. LOL, thay all so pretty.
My new Joss cues that cost $150 also hit pretty good.
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My Huebler SP is one of the best cues for me. $100:grin:
Cost me around $75 dollars to make a cue that hits as good as a Meucci.
My J&J, Kaiser, and Rhino cues all hit fine on small tables.
I do have at least 50 cues made in the Philippines. LOL, thay all so pretty.
My new Joss cues that cost $150 also hit pretty good.
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I have a DP eBay cue. Anyone who can't play high level pool with this cue wouldn't play high level with any cue. $108
And I won a Chinese-made, McDermott-design cue, which still has the sticker price: $39.95. And this cue got me back into playing a few years ago. No problem using it on the toughest of tables.
Do I buy expensive-ish cues? Sure. But for no other reason other than I wanted to. That should reason enough. People should be able to spend their money however they want.
They are not overrated. They are expensive because economics and business. Nobody rates playability on expense. And nobody buys a $10,000 cue because they think they it plays better . To say that expensive cues are overrated is simply a phantom argument.