Different Practice technique: Repeated ghost layout

I probably tried this run 40 racks in total now, and the 7 ball was almost always the bottleneck.

How did you know it was The Beatles? Did you slow it down? I was wondering if anyone would be able to figure it out.

I would play the rack for the 7 in the side. Maybe fix the bottleneck.

I recognized one of the fast chipmunk style chord progressions and melody. Thought it sounded like "You say goodbye, and I say Hello....hello hello.....I don't know why you say goodbye when I say hello...."

Not sure of any other songs, but this one jumped out.
 
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Now, if someone would just come out with colored donuts, that would be slick.

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Like these? Sadly, Avery seems not to make them any more and I've only found the one set of colors. I got some on a closeout at an Office Depot/Staples.
 

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I believe Bert used to teach a particular layout that required 9 exact shots to get out of the rack.
I've never done it but the idea seems solid.
I believe Bert called it Angles and Speed. It was a 3 VHS set that had you practice layouts that teach you how to get around the table. Good Stuff and still available.
 
Like these? Sadly, Avery seems not to make them any more and I've only found the one set of colors. I got some on a closeout at an Office Depot/Staples.

For less than 5 or 6 dollars you can buy colored markers and just color the standard white donuts.
 
Thanks for the feedback. What is the difference between your #4 and #5?

#4 is me shooting balls off donuts in a pattern that came from the original break.

#5 is me adding a break to the drill and trying to end up with same pattern after break and then run them without ball in hand.

Yes, if your thinking adding the break and not taking ball in hand is a drill in itself, your correct.

After getting past #4, your focus will be directed toward racking patterns and break speed/area's.

After the rack, break is learned then you start #5 which will lead you to beating the ghost to death with ball in hand. And ultimately improving with pro ghost.
 
#4 is me shooting balls off donuts in a pattern that came from the original break.

#5 is me adding a break to the drill and trying to end up with same pattern after break and then run them without ball in hand.

Yes, if your thinking adding the break and not taking ball in hand is a drill in itself, your correct.

After getting past #4, your focus will be directed toward racking patterns and break speed/area's.

After the rack, break is learned then you start #5 which will lead you to beating the ghost to death with ball in hand. And ultimately improving with pro ghost.

Wow, that is strong! I see what you mean now. Like a Donnie Mills layout.
 
I've been going nuts trying to get a perfect score. I've been playing the CB on the other side of the 7 the past few days, shooting it either in the side or the up table corner. It is definitely a higher percentage out that way. The 8 in the side sucks. 8 in the corner is way better.

I don't want to quit until I get a perfect score of a race to 7. I'm possessed. We will see if I give up, or keep going until I accomplish it. This is what separates the players from the wannabes. I'll report back which way I go;)
 
I've been going nuts trying to get a perfect score. I've been playing the CB on the other side of the 7 the past few days, shooting it either in the side or the up table corner. It is definitely a higher percentage out that way. The 8 in the side sucks. 8 in the corner is way better.

I don't want to quit until I get a perfect score of a race to 7. I'm possessed. We will see if I give up, or keep going until I accomplish it. This is what separates the players from the wannabes. I'll report back which way I go;)

You got this!

All it takes is "quality" practice time.

Do not beat a dead horse. Change to a different drill that does the same thing.

This drill like many others is about cue speed/position and decision making before you start psr...simple as that.

If I start missing position on a certain shot I will stop the drill and do another drill that reinforces the previous drill.

Look at it like taking classes in college. Sometimes we have to relearn something we already knew so we can make a new approach on the next level of drills.

Keep it up and always stay accountable. It will force you to take action where you may otherwise give up.

Rake
 
I finally got my 7-0 today. Link below at 5x chipmunk speed. I wore a belt this time:)
https://youtu.be/jxQbncbv0g8


It took me 19 sets. Playing the 7 ball from the CB down table was definitely a better success ratio. You can see below the first 7 sets I played the 7 ball the first way, and set 8 through 19 the second way.
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As far as the practice method:
IMO, shooting the shots from the "exact" same OB location was a tremendous teacher. I figured out so many subtitles of very slight angle variations, very slight spin effects, etc. I think without having the exact same OB locations, I might have not figured these out. I have been practicing for the past 25 years using random layouts, and feel I learned a lot in the past 18 days of shooting this over and over "exactly".

Besides just shooting complete sets, I found many problem areas "for me" while the sets were happening. What I did many times, is shoot only one shot between sets, because I knew the range of CB locations the CB would end up in from the prior sets. So I shot the shot individually, with a whole rack, from each possible CB location, and getting position on the next shot. This helped me quite a bit when I tried the whole set again.

Pattern: I feel confident the way I played the pattern in this video linked in this post, is the best possible way to play the whole runout. I have 19 sets of shooting the shots all different ways. This way was by far the highest percentage. I really don't think a pro could pick a better pattern. This is not to sound cocky, but just to say that I experimented with a bunch of different routes and pockets for the balls, and the way I shot them in this set, afforded the greatest margins of error. I found great value in figuring this out for myself. Rather than ask what is the best way to shoot this layout, I tried myself all the possibilities, and answered the question for my self. As a learning tool (in any field, imo), this is probably the best way to learn: Answer the question for yourself.

Memory: I have been playing only this pattern since 4/5. I have not shot any other shots since then. Except today, before attempting this 7-0 run, I just threw balls on the table and attempted to run them out like I normally practice. I found that the shots from the set pattern came up several times during just throwing the balls on the table. Maybe not the exact shot, but close enough, where I had an "ah-ha" moment, recalled all the nuances of the shot at hand from the practice drill, and then executed the shot successfully in a different layout. Besides the execution of the shot, also the pattern of the runout came into play. I learned from the repeated pattern, that the 8 in the side is a very poor shot to lead to good position to the 9. I had a similar layout between 2 balls when I threw them on the table, and immediately recognized this potential problem, and played the first ball in the corner instead of the side.

Range of shots: I feel even with the same 9 OB portions, you need to have a very well rounded game to get all the way out. So many different strokes, and position routes came up. I know this last video looks easy and all the same shots, but all the other attempts I took, and individual trials of individual balls, really tested a ton of strokes. Because the CB won't land in the same spot every time, you need to know how to play the shot from all different CB positions and still get on the next ball. I guess my point of this paragraph, is that even with the exact same 9 ball layout, that alone might be enough to really learn many, many, many other layouts.


Conclusion:
I'm very pleased with the results of this focused practice. I feel if I try it again with more layouts, and keep doing them until I go mad or get a perfect score, I can't help but become a better player.

Thanks all who participated in this thread. I will do another one in the future.

IMO, and YMMV:)
 
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Well, forget everything I said in this thread. I just played 2 sets of the ghost since I was feeling super good with my game. I lost both sets 2-7. I still suck. ha ha. Life goes on:)
 
Well, forget everything I said in this thread. I just played 2 sets of the ghost since I was feeling super good with my game. I lost both sets 2-7. I still suck. ha ha. Life goes on:)

Lately I've spent a lot of time studying rack patterns and where and how to break to improve the chances to have a familiar patter when needed.

To me, that is key when playing the ghost. Especially the pro ghost.

Rake
 
I'm always game for a good drill or practice routine that makes practicing fun. I love this idea, I'm going to try this for sure.
 
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