Those are also prone to warpage in the field.
And prone to chatter in the taper machine.
Imo all shafts should have at least a mm of rise to the middle .
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And prone to chatter in the taper machine.
Imo all shafts should have at least a mm of rise to the middle .
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I'm not arguing that it's fun or not. I love nerding out too. But if the time and mental effort spend nerding out was put directly into a focused practice regimen at the table there should be no doubt which one will give the most results.
True enough about nerding out on this forum. Something I got some genuine benefit out of was playing with a couple books, I think by Ray Martin and Freddy the Beard, on the computer with a simulator. Maybe VP3, been a long time, decades. Anyway I worked on the shots on the simulator and was pleased to find they worked on the blue label Diamond with very little adjustment. It was consistent too, shots transferred.
I am going to have some down time in this apartment and am thinking about trying to port a simulator to my TV or maybe there is a better route. I have never been a gamer although I gave the gamers hell playing pool on the computer.
Need to start another thread I guess but maybe there is a simple answer. Going to be laid up a little while so how do I lay on the couch and play the most realistic pool on my TV?
Hu
But it is possible to say the taper makes a huge difference in play.
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boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I think Shooters Pool is a pretty good simulation. You can also play online, there are actually a ton of leagues, tournaments and such on the multiplayer part. There is also offline practice mode where you can set up shots. I've not messed with it a whole lot but a few years ago I did play it some and it was a good experience. Virtual Pool series was also really good. I'd say if you do end up getting one be sure to check out Shooters Pool as it's supposed to have really accurate physics. I'm no expert on it but it's a good one. I used to play I think the original VP, back when they said they guaranteed it to improve your real pool game. I think it was on Windows 95 or something.
thanks! I have a seventeen inch laptop and a 55' TV. Not huge but should be big enough to see shots. I'm hoping to move to the TV. The last, maybe the only VP I used was three, maybe two and three. It was much better than nothing. With perfect stroke and speed I could work on the shot itself. I'm a moderately decent banker anyway, feel works. I worked on the banks on a snooker table long ago too.
Appreciate the info!
Hu
I have a long straight taper on my shafts to accommodate my bridge length and stroke.
Bcuz I like a long straight taper I go with 14mm Kielwood shafts to keep them from being whippy.
They're also 32" - short.
I picked up a packaged cue on the doorstep yesterday, walked through the house past my wife to my office, she never saw a thing. David Blaine got nothin.
Either that, or she is a good wife and chose to ignore it.... I pick option A...I must be smarter than her...have to be...need to be...
I recall a
I know my Scruggs did.
It sang!!
I wish I would have paid more attention to the things Tim spoke about.
Naivety of youth.
I recall a conversation with Tim Scruggs about resonance in wood pairings and which rang truer than others and several other oddities about grain quality and such. Way over my pay grade as a 19 year old player at the time. Tim spoke about the qualities of wood like a master craftsman who new his art inside and out. I'm sure the good cuemakers on here know of what I speak. Perhaps one of them will chime in and give us a more detailed explanation of how wood speaks.
I know my Scruggs did.
It sang!!
I wish I would have paid more attention to the things Tim spoke about.
Naivety of youth.
A
Absolutely no doubt about it.
Pocket pool is always fun.
You guys have been married for a while, yes??I picked up a packaged cue on the doorstep yesterday, walked through the house past my wife to my office, she never saw a thing. David Blaine got nothin.
Either that, or she is a good wife and chose to ignore it.... I pick option A...I must be smarter than her...have to be...need to be...
Since I collect, I have a tremendous variety of tapers...and a number of different types of curve (some say warp but this isn't Star Trek so I don't know what they are talking about).
A few years ago I entered a 9 ball tournament and played with a 100 year old cue. I did pretty well considering I suck and was playing with a baseball bat.
In fact, the only time I ever beat the local house pro was when I invited him to play me, but he had to use that particular cue, and I used my Joss.
I have a few so I am not sure I remember which one but I think it was this one next to the antique masse cue.
Check out that wrap! Some kind of barge rope! LOL!
A few years ago I entered a 9 ball tournament and played with a 100 year old cue. I did pretty well considering I suck and was playing with a baseball bat.
In fact, the only time I ever beat the local house pro was when I invited him to play me, but he had to use that particular cue, and I used my Joss.
I have a few so I am not sure I remember which one but I think it was this one next to the antique masse cue.
Check out that wrap! Some kind of barge rope! LOL!
I know I love my Scruggs shaft on my block letter Joss, but it isn't as good as the two Stroud shafts I have for it. The original shafts are very good but still behind those.I recall a
I recall a conversation with Tim Scruggs about resonance in wood pairings and which rang truer than others and several other oddities about grain quality and such. Way over my pay grade as a 19 year old player at the time. Tim spoke about the qualities of wood like a master craftsman who new his art inside and out. I'm sure the good cuemakers on here know of what I speak. Perhaps one of them will chime in and give us a more detailed explanation of how wood speaks.
I know my Scruggs did.
It sang!!
I wish I would have paid more attention to the things Tim spoke about.
Naivety of youth.
I bought a shaft from a member here last week and got it Thursday. I thought I made it into the house, unwrapped it and got it into the bag without being caught. A few hours later we were watching a movie and she casually asked, what was in the tube that was delivered… busted!
I prefer the straight taper, I play way better with it, most good players like the pro taper
I like the hit on house cues, billiard cues and the Deano cue that I sold
I get better control, I even draw the ball better
The pro taper cues seem to throw the cue ball off line, what ever you call it
with the straight taper I use a smaller tip say 12.4 or so because it gets bigger quick.
the difference between a billiard cue ,a south west cue and a Meucci's the idea,I hate the way Meucci plus for me
The straight taper can be adjusted little by little until you get what you want, but for me it never gets anywhere near a Meucci or wimpy
For years I knew Tim scruggs and he knew that I was a poor player an knew nothing about pool so when I designed the Deano cue, he laughed at me, finally he ask me to send him my cue. Tim and mike were amazed and changed their tapereven though they were considered one of the best.
They tested, and changed and many people agree the Scruggs last years cues played better
I played Cliff Joyner, and he robbed me playing with a Meucci giving me 9 to 4,4 hit and the pick.
I played my best but the taper on the Deano didn't make me a champion, but it did improve my game
I like the hit on house cues, billiard cues and the Deano cue that I sold
I get better control, I even draw the ball better
The pro taper cues seem to throw the cue ball off line, what ever you call it
with the straight taper I use a smaller tip say 12.4 or so because it gets bigger quick.
the difference between a billiard cue ,a south west cue and a Meucci's the idea,I hate the way Meucci plus for me
The straight taper can be adjusted little by little until you get what you want, but for me it never gets anywhere near a Meucci or wimpy
For years I knew Tim scruggs and he knew that I was a poor player an knew nothing about pool so when I designed the Deano cue, he laughed at me, finally he ask me to send him my cue. Tim and mike were amazed and changed their tapereven though they were considered one of the best.
They tested, and changed and many people agree the Scruggs last years cues played better
I played Cliff Joyner, and he robbed me playing with a Meucci giving me 9 to 4,4 hit and the pick.
I played my best but the taper on the Deano didn't make me a champion, but it did improve my game
Since I collect, I have a tremendous variety of tapers...and a number of different types of curve (some say warp but this isn't Star Trek so I don't know what they are talking about).
A few years ago I entered a 9 ball tournament and played with a 100 year old cue. I did pretty well considering I suck and was playing with a baseball bat.
In fact, the only time I ever beat the local house pro was when I invited him to play me, but he had to use that particular cue, and I used my Joss.
I have a few so I am not sure I remember which one but I think it was this one next to the antique masse cue.
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Check out that wrap! Some kind of barge rope! LOL!
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I recall a
I recall a conversation with Tim Scruggs about resonance in wood pairings and which rang truer than others and several other oddities about grain quality and such. Way over my pay grade as a 19 year old player at the time. Tim spoke about the qualities of wood like a master craftsman who new his art inside and out. I'm sure the good cuemakers on here know of what I speak. Perhaps one of them will chime in and give us a more detailed explanation of how wood speaks.
I know my Scruggs did.
It sang!!
I wish I would have paid more attention to the things Tim spoke about.
Naivety of youth.
I wanted to try a larger diameter thread when I had my shop. I sometimes practice a slipstroke and it seems likely to reduce friction. So many projects I wanted to do for myself, never got around to them.
Mensa, about the resonance, I always gave potential shafts the ping test before final turning. Because I knew it must someday be moved I built my 12x20 cue shop with five sills running end to end and floor joists twelve inches on center. This was sitting on concrete blocks, not cinder blocks, very close together. One corner was intended to support a forty inch metal lathe. I used one and a quarter inch subflooring plywood for the flooring. Fair to say things were solid.
Anyway, that side trip was just to say the shop was solid, particularly the floor. I would bounce the shaft blank end on the floor over a joist. The "ping" meant everything. I would prefer a blank with only eight growth rings and a good ping over a blank with sixteen growth rings with a questionable ping. Without the ping, resonance, a shaft became just shop scrap.
Resonance is the feel in a cue. Too little and a cue plays flat. Too much and the cue seems tinny. In between is the "right spot". That right spot is different for different people, what keeps cue builders in business.
Hu
Thank you for your confirmations. That is inline with what I am feeling and trying to clarify. The taper is very very important to our whole mechanics as to comfortability, comfort zones, bridge length, strokes mechanism, and play styles.
It only affects a bit here and a bit there, but every little "a bit" will build out the "end different". The higher level a player and his opponents are, the higher these effects