Disappointing gesture from Shane

Poolhall60561

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Not a big deal in a pool hall with pool hall dark carpet. Probably not as bad as setting the chalk face down on the rail. I remember players years ago spreading talc all over the place, cigarettes burning on the edge of a rail and the worst, a spittoon in the corner which nobody could hit.
 

gdc25

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Not that what a hack like me does is of any concern, but I carry a small 3" x 3" piece of cloth in my case that is specifically for this purpose. Keeps the inside of my case clean and I don't eff up anybody's property.

That's just the way my momma raised me.
 

MattPoland

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I don't need a written rule to tell me not to wipe my cue on someone's carpet any more than I need to be told it's not OK to blow my nose on my host's window curtains. I know we can't avoid getting into an argument about whether this is a big deal or not but I'm surprised anyone thinks there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.


The problem is that we are all having different conversations.

Are we talking about the image of behavior on camera of a streamed event to 1,000 viewers on FB/YT or 1,000,000 worldwide viewers?

Are we talking about wiping a tip on someone’s residential white carpet or on a 55,000 square foot casino ballroom floor that will be professionally steam cleaned between every event?

Are we talking about a general behavior prevalent by some/many players or specifically how low class and disrespectful SVB is?

In general I’d say we can discuss this behavior on its face without trying to compare it to wiping snot on curtains.


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jimmyco

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Don't believe pool players have no class or lack discretion.

Over 100 posts and not one mention of dragging their tip on the carpet when finished, and believe you me, she did NOT complain.
 

logical

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In general I’d say we can discuss this behavior on its face without trying to compare it to wiping snot on curtains.


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Once there are people suggesting its perfectly acceptable behavior even as a guest in someone's home you kinda have to pull out the big guns to make your point.

It became a strawman debate 78 posts ago.

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misterpoole

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Why is this thread still alive? This is not controversial. Dont wipe your dirty tip on the carpet!
 

ShootingArts

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Yuck!

I read three pages and jumped to the end so this may all have already been said, probably has been in other posts.

Very good local players that I respect wipe their cue tips on the carpet. I gave it a try a few times. It gets the chalk off and in a real pool room it is so common that the owner would never call you on it. Most owners are long term players and may do it themselves.

I never got comfortable doing it. It didn't seem respectful of the pool room to me. At some level we are guests wherever we go except our own home. I try to behave as a guest wherever I go even if it is a low dive bar.

The ultimate decider was thinking about all of the things that were already in that carpet. If you are germaphobic there are the germs from countless sneezes and coughs in that carpet. Countless shoes have been on the bathroom floor and then have tramped on that carpet. Beer, coke, puke, deliberate spit, maybe including a little tobacco, we can all add to the list of things in the carpet. Do I really want to drag my tip through all of that? Do I want to handle my tip and ferrule after dragging it through the carpet?

I quit making my cue tip far nastier than when it had my nice clean chalk on it. I use a paper towel or napkin to clean my tip. If nothing else is handy, I flip the cuff of my jeans inside out and clean the tip on the inside of my jeans.

A couple of side notes: I always go to the restroom to wash my hands after laying the pool balls on my table of choice. I bring the damp paper towel I dried my hands on back to the table, maybe a dry one too. Then I wipe down the rails getting most of the things I said were on the floor off. The tar and nicotine from places that allow smoking are the biggest thing I see on the paper towel. Not a big deal, just feels better for the rails not to be sticky or filthy. They aren't really clean but they are a lot cleaner usually!

Efren has been mentioned several times in this thread. He has been known to mine for gold and when that wasn't what he found he used the table rail as a place to deposit his spoils. Shark move or habit from playing on tables in truly bad conditions since he was eleven years old or was it nine? Perhaps he was just jacking with the other player because he found the fastidious behavior of players from the US and europe funny! Efren is a great guy but he was raised in conditions most of us can't imagine.

I'll end with the tip of the day: The application of snot and the softer boogers to your tip will make it hold chalk better. For those with big noses and little tips you can bypass getting boogers and snot on your fingers by just jamming the tip and first inch or two of cue shaft in your nose and rotating firmly. Remember you heard it from me first! Soon everybody will be jamming cue tips in their noses across the pool world! I learned this from an old doctor who told me that a cue tip could be used to clean your nostrils. Pretty smart old doctor, must have been a pool player!

Everyone have a great day!
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JolietJames

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That's a streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch. If I heard ANY room owner say that, I'd wanna meet the man.

Yeah, that's a straight-up lie. We have a crazy-busy pool hall in town that is still rocking the same carpet it had eight years ago when I first visited.

I was just playing at VNEA worlds in Vegas a couple months ago. It seemed to me they had plenty of illegal aliens on hand to clean the floors. I little chalk smudge isn't going to bother anyone but the OP and a few members who think every place on earth should be treated like the inside of a stranger's home.
 

Catalin

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But the title should be about wiping tips on the floor in general, and of a conversational manner. Not aggressively calling out our country’s best player. I might be talked into no floor wiping, but cannot support this type of indignant criticism to such a legend.

So you're telling me what the title of my post should be. Ok. Would you mind also pointing me to the parts that are "aggressive calling" and "indignant criticism"?

Julian
 

Tin Man

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Dgfs

So you're telling me what the title of my post should be. Ok. Would you mind also pointing me to the parts that are "aggressive calling" and "indignant criticism"?

Julian

Titling the post “Disappointing gesture from shane” is what I was referring to.

Since many pros do this it seems unfair to isolate him or infer he is unprofessional.

If you want to talk about that practice in general that is up for debate. But currently this isn’t considered disrespectful nor is it rare, so to single him out for a common behavior seems unnecessary.
 

SBC

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Somebody does this in my room, I'm gonna speak to them. Probably give them the steam cleaner. Don't care who they are it is disrespectful.
 

KRJ

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If I ever wiped the chalk off my tip on a carpet in somebody’s home....
...I’d have to kill myself.
Come to think of it, I’ve never done it at a pool hall either.

One stupid thing I used to do was put down the chalk on the rail any old way.
I would play a lot with a man who was my father’s age.....he carried his own chalk..
...sometimes I couldn’t find my chalk...I’d find it in a pocket...
..:idea2:...I finally caught on...duh...if I put the chalk down blue side up...he left it alone.
...another lesson learned...and not forgotten.

Nothing wrong with having respect

Thank you for learning a valuable lesson. As the son of a former pool room owner and thus the table cleaner, that is and will always be a pet peeve of mine. There just is no reasonable explanation of putting the chalk side down on the table.

It would be like not using an ashtray when one is just 2 inches away :)
 

mikemosconi

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How would it look if a professional golfer walked into a golf pro shop after a match on TV and wiped his/her golf clubs on the pro shop carpet to clean off the clubs? Not too good for any aspect of the sport- would it? The answer is obvious to all but those who were never raised with any regard for others' property, possessions, or any regard for common decency in their actions. Need any more be said about what is inherently RIGHT or WRONG! Unfortunately this thread should have had NO response- because ALL of us should agree that this type of action is unacceptable in any sport calling even one of it's participants a PROFESSIONAL!
 

JC

Coos Cues
How hard is it to throw a napkin down on the floor and clean you tips just like it was the carpet and then pick it up and throw it away?

People who use the carpet are the same ones who throw cigarette butts on the ground outside.

"The world is my ashtray" types.
 

JC

Coos Cues
Titling the post “Disappointing gesture from shane” is what I was referring to.

Since many pros do this it seems unfair to isolate him or infer he is unprofessional.

If you want to talk about that practice in general that is up for debate. But currently this isn’t considered disrespectful nor is it rare, so to single him out for a common behavior seems unnecessary.

Apparently the OP didn't see other professionals doing it. He saw Shane.

If I owned a pool room and I saw someone doing that I would ask them if their car is unlocked. When they asked why I would tell them because I need to take a shit.
 

pt109

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Titling the post “Disappointing gesture from shane” is what I was referring to.

Since many pros do this it seems unfair to isolate him or infer he is unprofessional.

If you want to talk about that practice in general that is up for debate. But currently this isn’t considered disrespectful nor is it rare, so to single him out for a common behavior seems unnecessary.


Shane has been the best player in the USA for quite some time.....
...so he’s in the spotlight whether he likes it or not....I don’t think it’s unfair.

And I don’t care how many people do it....that doesn’t make it okay.
 
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