Or if you perceive you lay lemons on the table, do you lose some self-worth?
Please, with all due respect, spare the Dr Phil manure. Shoot straight.
Please, with all due respect, spare the Dr Phil manure. Shoot straight.
Do YOU, as a serious player, gain self worth from your successes?
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Self worth? Not really. I don't see how my pool game relates to me as a person and how I feel about myself. Do I like winning? yes. Do I dislike losing? Only if I lost because of my mistakes. I don't think more or less of myself either way though. I'm me, always have been, always will be. I don't need a game of pool to boost my ego.
MULLY
MULLY
You betcha...
I think that the feeling that you are talking about is integral to the nature of the competitive individual. I think that without it everyone would simply be Sunday golfers, to coin a term. It is that need for self validation through competition (in one form or another) that drives us to need to outperform others.
I'm not saying it is good or bad. It just is.
Tommy
I think that the feeling that you are talking about is integral to the nature of the competitive individual. I think that without it everyone would simply be Sunday golfers, to coin a term. It is that need for self validation through competition (in one form or another) that drives us to need to outperform others.
I'm not saying it is good or bad. It just is.
Tommy
This I can agree with. But self worth? If anyone gets their self worth from a game of pool then they are really sad. Of course to play competitively you have to have confidence and a drive to win, but again, self worth? Maybe he used the wrong phrase or I'm taking it the wrong way.
MULLY
i have worked pretty hard to be at the B level I feel i am, so yes I feel a sense of self worth when I play well, win or lose if i play well the self worth is higher,
However I need to learn that since I dont have the time to practice anymore when I play badly I cant get upset although I do, def. a WORK in progress
However I need to learn that since I dont have the time to practice anymore when I play badly I cant get upset although I do, def. a WORK in progress
Dr Phil manure??? i had to laugh my ass off at this. Do you think most of what you read here is really taken seriously?
Self worth? No, not at all.
A sense of accomplishment! Of course.
I learned some 25+ yrs ago that gaining a sense of self worth at other peoples expense was ludicrous. I am no better a person or worse a person than someone that can crush me in pool, or someone that I can crush in pool. Reality is that I gain FAR more pleasure in learning a skill well enough to teach it, and then I get to experience great satisfaction every time that I help someone else improve.
Self worth? Nope. Pleasure, satisfaction, a SMILE... OF COURSE!
A sense of accomplishment! Of course.
I learned some 25+ yrs ago that gaining a sense of self worth at other peoples expense was ludicrous. I am no better a person or worse a person than someone that can crush me in pool, or someone that I can crush in pool. Reality is that I gain FAR more pleasure in learning a skill well enough to teach it, and then I get to experience great satisfaction every time that I help someone else improve.
Self worth? Nope. Pleasure, satisfaction, a SMILE... OF COURSE!
I voted yes, but I really wasn't sure how to answer. When I play great it makes me feel great and when I play like crap I get frustrated. The difference is that when I play great I feel pretty good all day, but when I play like crap I leave that at the table. In each instance I think about what I did well and what I did not so well at the table.
I didn't really know how to answer because how I play doesn't change how I see myself. Whether I play good or bad I constantly tell myself that I know I have a great game inside of me....I just have to keep plugging away to find it.
I didn't really know how to answer because how I play doesn't change how I see myself. Whether I play good or bad I constantly tell myself that I know I have a great game inside of me....I just have to keep plugging away to find it.
Surely not self worth. If winning at pool is all that validates your life, it is a sad situation. Learned early on you lose a lot more than you win. Even the very best players in the world have losing records. We only remember their wins. It is just one facet of the game. I hate to lose but I accept it! Don't have to like it though.
Lyn
Lyn
The hell its not self worth.....especially if this is what you do in life.
If your occupation happens to be "Pool Player" then self worth is right up there, why wouldn't it be.
No one likes to suck...it makes you feel worthless. When you accomplish then you feel rich inside and in your pocket.
Can't tell me that self worth would not come into play when you have some players out there that have/had/are putting everything in their entire being into being a champion, becoming a champion or staying a champion.
If your just a civilian then your life affects your game.....what you do in life carries over into your game.
For a lucky few of us, what we do in our games affects our lives....how we address the game is how we address life, and ourselves.
so yea self worth is a big factor,
-Grey Ghost-
If your occupation happens to be "Pool Player" then self worth is right up there, why wouldn't it be.
No one likes to suck...it makes you feel worthless. When you accomplish then you feel rich inside and in your pocket.
Can't tell me that self worth would not come into play when you have some players out there that have/had/are putting everything in their entire being into being a champion, becoming a champion or staying a champion.
If your just a civilian then your life affects your game.....what you do in life carries over into your game.
For a lucky few of us, what we do in our games affects our lives....how we address the game is how we address life, and ourselves.
so yea self worth is a big factor,
-Grey Ghost-
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It's just a game KK9. Remember when I complained about bad rolls followed me around like flies to a pile of $hit. You made the statement "you make your own luck", maybe so but what I've come to realize lately is this game is highly emotionally charged. Thus “challenging ones reason for being”, LOL. I've been trying to set aside my emotions when I play the game. No highs, no lows just accept the shot at hand and fade the previous shot. I don't know if you have notice that in my game as of late? I think you have noticed my abilities on the raise.
It sounds like from this thread that you’re reading too much into this silly game. It doesn't define you. You just need a way to define it. Removing the emotion helps me.
See ya at the table soon
EZ
It sounds like from this thread that you’re reading too much into this silly game. It doesn't define you. You just need a way to define it. Removing the emotion helps me.
See ya at the table soon
EZ
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I'm afraid this topic is going to raise some serious self-delusion and no amount of arguing is going to change anyone's mind.
However, for anyone interested knowing more, there's a nice treatise of social games played on tennis court in Tim Gallwey's The Inner Game of Tennis all of which pretty much applies to pool world as such. Gallwey's discussion is largely based on Eric Berne's book Games People Play, which is more about everyday life, but is easy to apply to other social situations like those played around pool tables for example.
However, for anyone interested knowing more, there's a nice treatise of social games played on tennis court in Tim Gallwey's The Inner Game of Tennis all of which pretty much applies to pool world as such. Gallwey's discussion is largely based on Eric Berne's book Games People Play, which is more about everyday life, but is easy to apply to other social situations like those played around pool tables for example.
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nicely put
I answered yes in what I believe to have been the spirit & intent of the choice of words used. I think many are reading more into the term than was literally intended.
I do believe that most of us feel some sense of ego involvement in doing what we've invested so much time and energy into developing a degree of proficiency at - and rightly so. Success breeds a sense of accomplishment, and failures a sense opf disappointment.
I think if you care about your devotions, then you come to associate them with your perceived "self".
I do believe that most of us feel some sense of ego involvement in doing what we've invested so much time and energy into developing a degree of proficiency at - and rightly so. Success breeds a sense of accomplishment, and failures a sense opf disappointment.
I think if you care about your devotions, then you come to associate them with your perceived "self".
Well said. :thumbup: