Do you even Pattern Rack bro

From the comments, go to 15:28, 18:35 and 22:00.
That's ridiculous and should not be allowed. (And it isn't per WPA rules)

The object balls are racked as tightly as possible in a diamond shape, with the one ball at the apex of the diamond and on the foot spot and the nine ball in the middle of the diamond. The other balls will be placed in the diamond without purposeful or intentional pattern. (See Regulation 4, Racking / Tapping of Balls.)
 
Why isn't there a standard, accepted racking order much like the WPA has for blackball? Seems like a simple solution to something that seems to upset people so often on this forum.
 
Usually I think it's no big deal, in the past dennis had tried this but basically failed... people were talking like every rack was the exact same but they weren't at all.

Obviously though he figured it out, at least for the three racks at 15:28, 18:35 and 22:00. It's not as horrifying as Corey's where he makes 2 balls and then combos in the 9, over and over. But it's to the point where it's getting abusive.

There's a specific WPA rule forbidding it, and refs and other players either don't know it, or pretend like the rule doesn't exist. http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/index.asp?id=117&pagetype=rules#2.2

Also, for years, a completely logical and realistic solution has been proposed to racking problems. And for years it's been shot down as impractical, too problematic, too unfair or expensive or whatever. That solution is a neutral racker.

It's not rocket science. A 7 year old can get a tight rack with a magic rack, and a 12 year old can be trained to do it with a standard triangle. There's often a ref or TD standing right there during the finals. Nobody's gonna ask for $30 an hour to do this. Probably you can get free volunteers.

They say this would open up a can of worms... how would you describe the current situation where players leave gaps intentionally, or pattern rack, or waste 20 minutes trying to freeze them?
 
how would you describe the current situation where players leave gaps intentionally, or pattern rack, or waste 20 minutes trying to freeze them?

Ridiculous and against the rules.

Simply enforce the rules to deal with the pansies that do it and it will stop.
 
That is as blatant of a pattern rack as it can be. The only balls he changed were the 5 and 8 (once or twice) but I believe it was after the 3rd rack he even kept those the same.

I don't play 9 ball very often, but I can assure you that when I do I watch them rack if they are selectively picking up balls to place or placing the same ball(s) in the same place each time then I call them out.
 
Because the one's that could fix that are the ones that really don't want it fixed. Nine ball and 14.1 are way too easy for the sharpshooters of today. Close all pockets to 4 1/4" and stop the pattern racking in 10 ball and you have some challenge for them.

MC points on 7' tables playing 9 ball is a real is a real joke. There are 100's of players that can beat anyone in a race to 5 alt. break. You will never get the best 9' players from that. Johnnyt
 
Why isn't there a standard, accepted racking order much like the WPA has for blackball? Seems like a simple solution to something that seems to upset people so often on this forum.

EXACTLY!

If you can't hang with the big dogs, go home or play with smaller dogs.

Make a STANDARD and enforce it.
 
I am still waiting for the one pocket pattern. I figured it out once, but couldn't remember the order of the balls the next day.

























Yes, I am joking
 
I am still waiting for the one pocket pattern. I figured it out once, but couldn't remember the order of the balls the next day




















Yes, I am joking

I like playing loser racks. As long as you are racking and losing, I don't care what you are doing.
 
Why isn't there a standard, accepted racking order much like the WPA has for blackball? Seems like a simple solution to something that seems to upset people so often on this forum.

I think it's because in 9 Ball there is a pretty significant tendency for balls in certain positions to go a certain way. If a standard pattern was instituted there would be too many similar outs. Plus, any given rack can be figured out eventually. Cory would find the right break spot, spin, and correct speed to render a given pattern obsolete in less than a week.
 
my problem with this is that DO is one of the first people to call a ref.
No jason sat there at took it and the TD did nothing, so just like the frenchy situation i feel like you have to ask "why", why in what i guess is such a popular event are there no rules against this? you make the table tight as hell claiming "oh the real players come out" but then allow such blatant pattern racking, was someone betting on DO?
 
i'm gonna practice this this weekend, i'm playing in an event next week I want to see what they say or who notices.
 
Ridiculous and against the rules.

Simply enforce the rules to deal with the pansies that do it and it will stop.

The pansies are the ones who *****ed about pattern racking in the first place. That led to them adopting a weak-ass rule that makes no sense, which is pretty standard I suppose.
 
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