Do you use a toothpick to secure the linen wrap?

DO YOU USE A TOOTHPICK, TO SECURE THE LINEN WRAP?

  • YES

    Votes: 51 72.9%
  • NO

    Votes: 19 27.1%

  • Total voters
    70
I do loop back system only.:smile: Is there a reason to use tooth pick?


It is a matter of preference. I originally learned with the toothpick method so that is what I have always done. It is very rare for me to see cues with the loop anymore and I think it is because it is faster with a toothpick but, when done correctly, you should not be able to tell the difference between the two. Do what is comfortable and gets you the best results.
 
I had learned to start with a toothpick and finish with the wrap under method. I never liked the idea of drilling a hole into the cue. I have been doing them without toothpicks for about 7 years now. Chris.
 
I had learned to start with a toothpick and finish with the wrap under method. I never liked the idea of drilling a hole into the cue. I have been doing them without toothpicks for about 7 years now. Chris.

I am with you Chris. I am not too comfortable to drilling a hole into the cue also. Maybe I will try it on the house cues I have a home...:grin:
 
I use the toothpick at both ends. Early on in my cue repair learning curve I kept having to replace wraps on imported cues that had been looped under on both ends, because the wraps were coming loose. So that made me leary of it. Many have used the loops without those problems, but I never thought it was as sure of a bond as the toothpick and hole was. It does give a cleaner look with the loop and tuck, but I never liked the little lump under the wrap either. I unwrapped one cue and found the guy had put a groove at both ends for the tucked under linen to lie in and you could not feel it. That was the best I had seen the loop and tuck done.
 
a toothpick is like hammering a wedge into the A joint area...can cause the A joint to fail or rattle with time -puts stress in the system that you dont have to introduce.

Ernie G and I had a discussion about this once when he was building my cue...makes perfect since when you think about it.
 
Its hard to argue with Ernie but I have never seen an A joint failure due to a toothpick/hole. I do understand the concern but have seen no evidence to support one system being better than the other.
 
I use toothpick both ends. Every single rewrap job I have gotten has been the loop under method. I have never gotten a toothpick method for a rewrap unless the customer wanted the color changed.
 
Toothpicks shouldn't be a problem as long as they are a high grade maple with no grain run out. Had to say that as I had a vision of me checking toothpicks with a large magnifying glass.
 
I start my wraps from the butt and go forward. Toothpick starts the wrap and loop under finishes the wrap.
 
I used to use tooth picks at both ends. Then I went to toothpick at start and loop under at the finish. I have finally gone to loop under at both ends. I've never had one come loose that I know of. A little bees wax on the linen helps slide the loop through easily.
 
It is a matter of preference. I originally learned with the toothpick method so that is what I have always done. It is very rare for me to see cues with the loop anymore and I think it is because it is faster with a toothpick but, when done correctly, you should not be able to tell the difference between the two. Do what is comfortable and gets you the best results.

Me too, me too...

Tho I long ago evolved to loop-de-looping the back end.
I feel I get a 'cleaner' fit - and, it is easier.

However, the pick seems like it should be more secure,
but I don;t know of any of my looped wraps ever un-doing.
 
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Ryan,

I am with you. I have used the tooth pick for 20 years and never had a problem with it.

I think we need a test!

Build a couple of identical cues except for the wrap method. Tape over the ends so that no one can even try to tell which is which, and ask as many players as possible to hit with them.

See if they can tell which is which!

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
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