First time I saw him play was at Akron, Ohio. 1985. Him, Parica and Efren were there. I watched the three of them play matches againgst Buddy Hall, Earl, Ray Martin, Mike Sigel and they walked around so relaxed. It looked like they were just havin fun at a club somewhere practicing. I got to play Luat in a bar table tourney about 5 or 6 years ago. Race to 9, loser breaks. I got beat 9-4 I think in the finals. He had a guy with him doing side bets. I believe they were offering 7 to 1 odds on each match, that the opponent would not get to 6. It was a pretty strong bet considering some of the players that were there. I don't think they lost any bets.