Don't Want to Start an Argument

Based on my experience with Vegans. Vegetarians are a whole different animal. So to speak. :)

I think you are right, Vegan's do tend to be the fringe element that may even be fanatical. They are also quick to tell you what they are and how everything you do is wrong. They are a little too "In your face" for my taste. All you have to do is be at a dinner party with one.
 
Vegans aren't true Vegans.

There are so many animal bi products in everything we use, it would be almost impossible to figure them all out.

They would be living outside with no clothes, under some palm fronds eating nuts and berries.

I had to laugh when Canadian singer, KD got up to accept some music award. In her acceptance speech, she gave the Alberta Ranchmens Assoc a blast.

The camera panned down and what was she wearing. Leather shoes. Well, where the FK did she think they came from. Naugahyde cows.

Most Vegans preach a good Sermon from the Pulpit, but thats about it.

Cows don't do much more than eat and fart. Their farts are causing the depletion of the Ozone Layer.
If we didn't keep the cattle population in check, by eating them, the Vegans would all get a nasty sunburn.

And I bet that their suntan lotion contains some sort of rendered fat.

I believe I am going to have a big juicy steak tonight with blood running from it.

AMEN BROTHER!!!!! As a matter of fact im a gonna go fire up the grill right now - got a nice 24oz Porterhouse im going to gourge myself on. Mid - rare and dont forget the bacon either :):):)
 
How do you tell if you have a vegan at your dinner party?
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Don't worry, they'll tell you...
 
Veganism is not a religion. People who decide not to eat or use animal products are completely free to make expections, if needed.

I don't know any serious vegan pool players, but for the vegans that I know, I do imagine that a leather tip would be a dilemma.

I suppose there is no proper alternative for leather tips. However, no vegan that I know has refused to play a friendly game with a house cue, with a leather tip. As I said, it is not a religion. It is not that serious.

For those, who like like to make the ''vegan in the dinner party'' joke, you have been quite loud in this thread already. I hope you understand the irony.
 
I believe Max Eberle is or was a vegan, but made an exception for leather tips because there is no real substitute available.
 
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Vegans aren't true Vegans.

There are so many animal bi products in everything we use, it would be almost impossible to figure them all out.

They would be living outside with no clothes, under some palm fronds eating nuts and berries.

I had to laugh when Canadian singer, KD got up to accept some music award. In her acceptance speech, she gave the Alberta Ranchmens Assoc a blast.

The camera panned down and what was she wearing. Leather shoes. Well, where the FK did she think they came from. Naugahyde cows.

Most Vegans preach a good Sermon from the Pulpit, but thats about it.

Cows don't do much more than eat and fart. Their farts are causing the depletion of the Ozone Layer.
If we didn't keep the cattle population in check, by eating them, the Vegans would all get a nasty sunburn.

And I bet that their suntan lotion contains some sort of rendered fat.

I believe I am going to have a big juicy steak tonight with blood running from it.

Spoken like a true heathen, Buy this man a pizza and beer.:thumbup:
 
I think you are right, Vegan's do tend to be the fringe element that may even be fanatical. They are also quick to tell you what they are and how everything you do is wrong. They are a little too "In your face" for my taste. All you have to do is be at a dinner party with one.

I dream of a day when people are judged by content of their character and not by the contents of their lunchbox...
 
After reading about the moral dilemma associated with the recent army prisoner swap, I was wondering:
If you're a vegan, is it okay to use a tip made from pig skin on your pool cue?

Thanks,

John

Of course you wanted to start an argument...

Please don't feed the trolls - unless you feed them steak tartare.

Dale
 
If you have a tip made of cowhide, and you make it a milk-dud...
....is that Kosher?
:confused:

Would a Vegan golfer play a skins game?
 
What happens in Vegans stays in Vegans...

at least for a little while. :grin:

Regarding PETA, it does seem ironic to me that so many of them wear leather accessories.

and that they jump in their cars and slaughter all those insects with their windshields while en route to PETA meetings. :eek:

If you're gonna advocate for all living things then don't do it half way, damnit! :p

They even run to their doctors looking for poison to kill living organisms when they get strep throat. Hypocrites! :wink:

best,
brian kc
 
I am a vegetarian and have been for like 35 years. I went to a lecture by a doctor and liked what I heard.
It was an easy conversion and My wife and I are very good cooks. To answer your question, there is an assumption that vegetarians are some kind of animal rights nuts.

I am sure this is true in some cases but few of the people I know are. It is just a healthier way of eating. Our food sources are also not very good. I would not eat much of what is sold in the markets on a bet. If I owned a farm and raised my own cows and chickens I can't say I would not eat one of them. At least I would know how they were raised.

I come in contact all the time and when people learn you are a vegetarian they often have some kind of got-ya question like you asked that actually make no sense. People like to make assumptions. Not sure why they go on the offense, you would think they would rather want to ask a real question. I will add, I am pretty old and feel like a kid.

In fact I went to the drug store recently to get a prescription. It was for a cream for a rash. When I was there the druggist asked if I wanted to switch over all my prescriptions and they had like some kind of special offer. I told him I didn't have any. He looked at me and said "Wow, you look like you are in good shape" as he see my age.

Is it the way I eat, who knows, I have never smoked or drank. Honestly I have never had a drink. Nor have I ever done a drug. As I have mentioned I was in the bar business for quite a few years. I have no problem with what others do and have no interest in telling people what to do. I live my life the way I want and make no excuses or apologies. To a degree I felt guilt making money off these somewhat sick people but I also never claimed to be an angel.

Sorry Charlie,

A vegetarian diet is NOT better for Human Beings. Several million years of
Hominid evolution argue against vegans. Granted, modern diet choices, since the
development of agriculture - coupled with lifestyle are far from healthy. But eating meat
is not the problem.

The typical Western diet and lifestyle, way too high a percentage of meat.
Way too much grain, sugar, processed sludge. Way too little walking.

Those are the problems.

Dale
 
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Sorry Charlie,

A vegetarian diet is NOT better for Human Beings. Several million years of
Hominid evolution argue against vegans. Granted, modern diet choices, since the
development of agriculture - coupled with lifestyle are far from healthy. But eating meat
is not the problem.

The typical Western diet and lifestyle, way too high a percentage of meat.
Way too much grain, sugar, processed sludge. Way too little walking.

Those are the problems.

Dale
Your right and I mention if I had a farm I may eat differently. I am not saying our food supply is unsafe. It is an amazing accomplishment that we have done to be able to feed such a populous of people. It is not easy and not without it's problems but our food industry still does an amazing job. They thing is, when you eat like I do I think you may have a consciousness about it others don't.

Most people have no idea what they are eating at all. They go through a drive thru and order a BigMac at 550 calories and half coming from fat. Add to that a large coke and fries and they are at like half their calories for the day in one small meal. I think few people could even tell you what they stuck in their mouthes in the course of the day. they eat mindlessly.

I know that many control their weight through moderation, but no moderation can make up for a diet of fast food and junk food. They are just a less healthy thinner person then they would be if they didn't eat like that. Sometimes it can be shocking.

I like to go to my local dollar store for different things they have some pretty good stuff if you look around. It is not that big a store but they have two isles just for chips sodas and such and another that is all candy. At the check out almost every person in line will have at least one junk food item. Then you see the ones that have like a dozen bags of chips and candy because it is so cheap and one open they are the kids in tow are already eating.

I said in my other post I don't care what others do I am not one to tell someone how to live their lives, but you want to tell these people sometimes, "Are you out for your F(%&ine minds"? They are killing their own children and seem completely oblivious to it. This brings me back to my original comment about being conscious of how you eat and not have it just be a mindless thing you do all day.

When you make how you eat a real part on your life, as it should be, it is how you stay alive, no matter what diet you choose it is easier and more enjoyable. A simple tasty meal can be a real joy. We see it when we have guests. I would be happy to make what ever they like I have no problem with that. They usually just want what we are having and are amazed at how good it is.

When ever my wife brings a covered dish to church hers is always the one that is empty at the end of the night and she gets all kinds of complements. A lot of it is the uses of spices to make a simple meal really taste special. I doubt many people serve meals at home that are in any way special. People just eat crap and as much of it as they can get. They should treat themselves better then that.

To make this pool related, do you think Buddy Hall got like that eating a healthy diet? How about Miz, dead at 62 and a portion of that life living like a half an invalid. I think we may be the only living thing on the planet that does things and makes choices that are not in our own best interest. We are like a self hating life form intent on our own destruction. At least on an individual basis, it does not have to be that way. Being healthy may be about the singular simplest thing we can accomplish in our lives. Are we really that lazy?
 
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I agree with Satori. A difference between a dietary or ethical Vegan.

As in how Mac Guy and his wife are.

I have been trying to curb my meat intake, grease etc for some time now. Lets face it, beef is good but not all the anti biotics and crap they feed them. We don't need that in our bodies.

I am never going to stop eating a big juicy steak, prime rib or roast beef but I can control it
somewhat.

I am just as satisfied when I eat a decent salad, bean and rice dishes etc, than when I gorge out on meat products.

For those that have the stomach, watch this short documentary.

I believe this is what the Ethical Vegans are getting at and it should be a concern to all of us. Altho I don't agree with preachy Vegans, we can agree on this film 100%.

I finished this doc in small bursts but I felt that I owed it to myself to watch it in its entirety.

I would be lying if I told you that I didn't have tears in my eyes while watching this.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/earthlings/

Watch it, I dare you!
 
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Silly thread. The human anatomy proves we are carnivores, I suppose omnivores to be more precise but you get the idea.:thumbup:
 
Meat-eaters often complain that vegetarians are in-your-face about it. And yet in my experience in threads like this, there are far more meat-eaters who are in-your-face about their preference than there are vegetarians who are in-your-face about theirs. I wonder why that is...
 
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