dual full splice 5 point compound miter

[cornerstone]

"Purple Reign" is built of quilted Bolivian Purpleheart base wood with five forward and five reverse Ivory points featuring Ivory spear tips and Sterling Silver accents. Perfectly splitting each Ivory point is a layered veneer V-point; these points arch around the cue, each meeting the other in a perfectly mitered junction - something that has never been done before.

The front and back of the cue are joined to a Gabon Ebony center section utilizing dual full-splices - another cuemaking first. Within the Ebony section there are inlaid twenty mated Ivory spearheads, each meticulously engraved and highlighted with Ivory rings and Silver accents. Centered between these spearheads are five elaborate Ivory and Silver inlays surrounding stunning center inlays of rare Violet Oyster shell.

The cue weigh 19 1/4 ounces, has an Ivory joint and Ivory buttcap with Ivory, silver, and Purpleheart rings; it has two shafts and matching engraved joint protectors.

TW

 

[97Buick22]

Brilliant!

 

[merylane]

This is a build that is soo far ahead of the curve in cue building, it will take cuemakers along time to play catch up! this is a first on a number of ground breaking levels in cue building! this is what makes Thomas one of the best cuemakers that ever lived! there is more to this than meets the eye! what do you think?

Hi Bill how are you? hope you had a good Christmas.

I'm wondering something, with how awesome and innovative, creative well quite

Simply the greatest cuemaker in the universe.

For the love of god why did he use ..... Well to quote the genius himself

http://www.jimboarmy.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7468&start=15

" A SIMPLE CHEAT " on this cue? Doesn't he feel you deserve his best and

Not some " SIMPLE CHEAT " engraving to fill up the space in those spearpoints?

 

[Buster8001]

Hi Bill how are you? hope you had a good Christmas.

I'm wondering something, with how awesome and innovative, creative well quite

Simply the greatest cuemaker in the universe.

For the love of god why did he use ..... Well to quote the genius himself

http://www.jimboarmy.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7468&start=15

" A SIMPLE CHEAT " on this cue? Doesn't he feel you deserve his best and

Not some " SIMPLE CHEAT " engraving to fill up the space in those spearpoints?

Bazinga!

Josh

 

[cueman]

Hey that's not fair. We are still trying to catch up to his design work from 15 years ago. :smile:

Very nice cue!

 

[Thomas Wayne]

Hi Bill how are you? hope you had a good Christmas.

I'm wondering something, with how awesome and innovative, creative well quite

Simply the greatest cuemaker in the universe.

For the love of god why did he use ..... Well to quote the genius himself

http://www.jimboarmy.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7468&start=15

" A SIMPLE CHEAT " on this cue? Doesn't he feel you deserve his best and

Not some " SIMPLE CHEAT " engraving to fill up the space in those spearpoints?

I'll be happy to address that, taking your question at face value.

We're talking about two entirely different things here. Openly visible engraving for decorative purposes has such a time honored history - centuries upon centuries of use in all forms of craft and art - that it needs no defending. You can find decorative engraving among the work of virtually every hall-of-fame cuemaker in the world.

Engraving at the very edge of an inlay, then filling that engraved groove with something meant to match the surrounding wood - for the sole purpose of HIDING the engraving is a very different animal. The ONLY reason for doing so is to imitate the look of meticulously hand-cut inlay work; as such it is no different than using photo images on decals to imitate the look of high-end materials. I consider it a cheat.

TW
(PS: "Bazinga" indeed.)

 

[TomHay]

I would say that would be like Kicking Megan Fox out of Bed because she still had make up on. Oh, that makes two functional pieces of art on this thread.

 

[merylane]

I'll be happy to address that, taking your question at face value.

We're talking about two entirely different things here. Openly visible engraving for decorative purposes has such a time honored history - centuries upon centuries of use in all forms of craft and art - that it needs no defending. You can find decorative engraving among the work of virtually every hall-of-fame cuemaker in the world.

Engraving at the very edge of an inlay, then filling that engraved groove with something meant to match the surrounding wood - for the sole purpose of HIDING the engraving is a very different animal. The ONLY reason for doing so is to imitate the look of meticulously hand-cut inlay work; as such it is no different than using photo images on decals to imitate the look of high-end materials. I consider it a cheat.

TW
(PS: "Bazinga" indeed.)

I know i know its ok if you say its ok ..... As usual

Fyi the first time he did it, it was ivory into babinga then engraved??? hiding??

Is it any different than putting inlays over a splice seam ????

 

[TomHay]

I know i know its ok if you say its ok ..... As usual

Fyi the first time he did it, it was ivory into babinga then engraved??? hiding??

Is it any different than putting inlays over a splice seam ????

I have no dog in this, just a belief. Nothing in this World is perfect, nothing. Perfection is the one thing you keep striving for but will never get.

You show me something you own, I can show you a flaw.

Been in the game over 50 years. I have had a newbie come up to me with his first cue that in reality I would not waste space in a garbage can with. My first question is, "how do you like it?" I point out the good things as all negativity is poison. From there its like drinking Poison hoping some one else will die.

Did it make you feel better belittleing a persons new cue hoping they don't like it as much any more?

I mean no offence but I have learned that Thomas Wayne will post if given some respect and that would lead to others posting that do not.

Maybe you have your reasons, I don't know. I do know there are a lot of cue makers I would love to see post to give the ins and outs the way "they see them". My finishing .02 cents is simple, I would kill to be the proud owner of that cue and I would kill to have the ability to make such a cue, thats just me though.

 

[buddha162]

Not some " SIMPLE CHEAT " engraving to fill up the space in those spearpoints?

John, are you talking about the engraved designs inside the spear?

-roger

 

[JAlan]

Spectacular cue.

 

[mel_smOg]

Wow this is something, one of the best cues

 

[jkmarshall_cues]

"Purple Reign" is built of quilted Bolivian Purpleheart...

...The front and back of the cue are joined to a Gabon Ebony center section utilizing dual full-splices - another cuemaking first.
Within the Ebony section there are inlaid twenty mated Ivory spearheads, each meticulously engraved and highlighted with Ivory rings and Silver accents...
TW

This is an artistic, beautiful cue, a 5 pointer on top of that, VERY NICE WORK SIR!!! VERY NICE!!! Hats off to your design.

However, I own 3 examples of Jerry Rauenzahn's work from the past year that incorporate dual full-splicing including 8 points on the lower splicing. Throw in another (2) one-piece cues with dual full-splicing and I couldn't say Tomas has a "dual full-splicing cue making first."

You have to give that credit to Mr. R-, can't argue that... sorry...(<:
John

 

[cornerstone]

dual full splice was done by brunswick over 100 years ago, and 4 and 8 points can be done on a band saw mor table saw, that is the easy part. but when the # of points is not a even # it can no longer be cut straight across . hence the 5 point. also it is prehistoric in building to keep the veneers straight ! but to concave the veneers and then miter them while splicing everything together and have the work come clean is amazing . but combine them both in one cue is stupendous !
and iam sorry to let you down but richard black did this all the way back in 1999 and it was still the best dual 4 point full splice ive seen to date
http://blackcues.com/gallery_cues/athena.shtml

 

[cornerstone]

This is an artistic, beautiful cue, a 5 pointer on top of that, VERY NICE WORK SIR!!! VERY NICE!!! Hats off to your design.

However, I own 3 examples of Jerry Rauenzahn's work from the past year that incorporate dual full-splicing including 8 points on the lower splicing. Throw in another (2) one-piece cues with dual full-splicing and I couldn't say Tomas has a "dual full-splicing cue making first."

You have to give that credit to Mr. R-, can't argue that... sorry...(<:
John

sir, not to question your beautiful cues but they are 4 and 8 points not 5 and 10 points. the long points count 4 your pictures show 50% of a cue in a picture and i count 1 full long point and 2 1/2 points for a total of 2 and add 2 = 4...if it was a 5 point it would show 2 1/2 on a photograph! thank you sir

 

[jkmarshall_cues]

sir, not to question your beautiful cues but they are 4 and 8 points not 5 and 10 points. the long points count 4 your pictures show 50% of a cue in a picture and i count 1 full long point and 2 1/2 points for a total of 2 and add 2 = 4...if it was a 5 point it would show 2 1/2 on a photograph! thank you sir

Actually Cladius Berger back in 1912 or so I believe started the dual full-splice building which has been a prized model most cue makers only dream about attempting to create (who knows, maybe he copied someone else's design and took credit for it). Jerry's eight pointer with another full-splice above it is different than Mr. Berger's original design, which I know is a first "one of a kind." And you are right, Thomas Wayne has uniquely designed a 5 point dual full-splice cue that is really the NUTZ!!! I'm just sayin, it's still an idea that's been around a while. I'm not accusing anyone of copying here... (<:

By the way, I do LOVE TW's creation. And when you say Jerry's work can be done with any old band saw or table saw why don't we see more builders doing them??? Maybe it's because they're freekin hard to do!!!

We all have to agree technology is so superior today with all the sofisticated software now available that can copy images, duplicate both male and female parts with the touch of a key and an image, so now we are beginning to see dozens of builders creating artistic work that could only be done by a select few MASTER WOOD CRAFTSMEN using chisels and hand cut inlays meticulously fitted around the turn of the 20th century. I think it comes down to how do we define "hand made???"

John

 

[cornerstone]

I still believe this will end up being cue of the year, and yes that is engravung into ivory.. but it is not used to hide anything it is very clear!

 

[mia]

I still believe this will end up being cue of the year, and yes that is engravung into ivory.. but it is not used to hide anything it is very clear!

It should be. Lots of beautiful cues to hit the gallery this year but this is one of the best. Period.

 

[josie]

This is an amazing & beautiful cue but I have a couple of questions.

How is 5 points harder than 4 or 8? I think this cue would be just as impressive as a 4,6 or 8 pointer.

The only difference is the indexing (72 degrees instead of 45, 60 or 90) correct?. Maybe I am missing something on this.

Also, was any Bolivian Purpleheart dust mixed with epoxy when the inlays were set in to ensure a clean line? The same question could be asked for the Ivory & Ebony as well.

Don't get me wrong, this is one of the neatest cues I have seen in a while and I am not too crazy about a lot of TW's designs. Although I respect him very much as a cuemaker.

 

[Worminator]

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Maybe you have your reasons, I don't know. I do know there are a lot of cue makers I would love to see post to give the ins and outs the way "they see them".

It seems, unbeknownst to you, that what your wish was granted before you even knew it. You were replying to a cuemaker who had posted "the way he sees it". Kind of a Twilight Zone moment there...