Dumping - caught

maha said:
they have the same info about each other if they chose to do the due diligence. if a player asks me to play for money i have no obligation to tell him i am better. or even if i am and ask for a spot. its gambling. you try to get the best of your opponent without cheating.

what is cheating is in each owns mind. especially from the ones that lose all the time.

if a chess master is in the park where they are gambling and asks someone to play and they say how good are you. he says not that good. whats wrong about that. they guy that asked didnt volunteer his rating.

if you are not a gambler dont gamble. and if you do expect to lose. and blame yourself for being stupid, if you gamble with a stranger you take your chances.
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I've found the easiest way to convince someone you aren't good is to claim you are so good. throw in that you put yourself through college and that's the icing on the cake.
 
Dumping like this has been around forever. Ronnie vs. Bucktooth was done successfully several times, for big money. They put on a good show.

In my day it can get you hurt..... Bad! An apology won't suffice. All it takes is one guy who decides to get even. That's the risk dumpers take.
 
in this country it happens frequently or at least used to when pool had more action. even happened in detroit.

and ronnie and bucktooth.,, but anyone betting on either side there deserved to lose his money from stupidity.

generally when side betting if you can get your bet down you werent going to win.
 
jay helfert said:
Dumping like this has been around forever. Ronnie vs. Bucktooth was done successfully several times, for big money. They put on a good show.

In my day it can get you hurt..... Bad! An apology won't suffice. All it takes is one guy who decides to get even. That's the risk dumpers take.
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Dumping is playing a person or people for fools. I know of people being killed for little more than pocket change. Not the money but the insult. Someone needs to carefully weigh the risks before any form of cheating gambling. It doesn't matter how important the cheater thinks the bet is, the question is how important the person you are cheating considers the cheat. Since it involves money and honor, the cash value can be almost nothing.

My experience, probably five times the people thought they were dumped than were really dumped. One reason I never played with a backer. I wasn't going to dump anyone, that didn't mean they wouldn't think they were dumped.

Hu
 
SBC said:
The smart play is to bet on the bigger scumbag losing.....you are betting they will dump. Worked for me for years at SBE.
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I just didn't bet on the rail. I knew guys who would win or lose depending on which way made the players the most money so they would decide who won on the fly depending on which way the money went down.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I just didn't bet on the rail. I knew guys who would win or lose depending on which way made the players the most money so they would decide who won on the fly depending on which way the money went down.

Hu
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Yeah only time I bet on the rail was at one of the swannee's. It was when Bergman was just starting to be known, someone bet me he would beat Louis Ulrich. Yeah, easiest money I ever made. It was when Louis had recently moved back to San Diego from back East where he was a terror to everyone. It was one of the first Swannee's held at hollywood billiards and I think one of the first that I cashed in.
 
ShootingArts said:
I just didn't bet on the rail. I knew guys who would win or lose depending on which way made the players the most money so they would decide who won on the fly depending on which way the money went down.

Hu
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Right, bet head to head with a guy who is not involved.
Especially as an outsider.
 
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