Eagle Eye Takes Aim at 14.1 High Runs
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I looked and didn't see anything
That’s what I’m wondering. It was said he’s playing again tonight and twice I’ve seen people comment something like “all this pocket bs and jaysons running balls” - In general or right now? I don’t see it on the page though
Whoah whoah whoah !! Is this Mr DH?? This thread is going to the moon!!!
Talking about this event with a world class player he noted one thing. It crossed my mind as well-to be clear I’m the worst 14.1 player to post in this thread. But from years of playing pool at a reasonable standard I’ve learned lots.
The champion told me that the pockets are a give & take thing on this box. Sure they are nice when you need to cheat the pocket or hit a ball a little off and the pocket takes the ball that’s where they help.
But where they can hurt is if you need to double out of the corner with the CB and because the pocket is so big there’s no rails there to double out with-it’s a scratch. That crossed my mind as well from 1P, sometimes that extra 0.25” of rail on each side or total gives you the ability to double out of the corner and put the CB or in 1P the OB in to the center of the table.
He was clear there’s a bit of a trade off.
I understand that there will be higher runs, but the ability to double out is compromised a bit.
Fatboy<——decided to start talking about the pockets lol
The champion told me that the pockets are a give & take thing on this box. Sure they are nice when you need to cheat the pocket or hit a ball a little off and the pocket takes the ball that’s where they help.
But where they can hurt is if you need to double out of the corner with the CB and because the pocket is so big there’s no rails there to double out with-it’s a scratch. That crossed my mind as well from 1P, sometimes that extra 0.25” of rail on each side or total gives you the ability to double out of the corner and put the CB or in 1P the OB in to the center of the table.
He was clear there’s a bit of a trade off.
I understand that there will be higher runs, but the ability to double out is compromised a bit.
Fatboy<——decided to start talking about the pockets lol
yeah, OK, what ever you say, I've been working with them for 22 years, how long have you?
Lou, grow some balls, put them in the corner pocket, slide them all the way back in the throat of the pocket and show the pocket size that way if you can't read a tape measure reading on how wide the throat is. Its not hard to do, just gotta have some balls to do it
I run into that same problem on Olhausen tables- not enough rail sometimes, due to their FU pocket cut, to do what one should normally be able to do to get that CB out of the corner rails and back into position for the next shot- frustrating as hell!
Of course you're right, Stu. This event has been wonderful for pool fans, and the players too.
But surely you can acknowledge the irony here on this forum, with all the defensiveness about the table specs...while not that long ago the table JS made his run was accused of having "big" pockets, shaved slate, heaters and God only knows what else. I think most folks here are finding amusement in the scenario, and the irony.
And those same "most of us" are extremely grateful for the event and the stream (before we get accused of being "ungrateful"). This has been awesome to watch.
The irony, tho...thats pretty amusing.
Tom Ferry said he saw the table Mosconi ran 526 on and the most amazing thing was he didn't scratch.
[/QUOTE]Did anyone hear them mention what the pocket facing angles were during the just-completed Arizona event? Of course not, because no-one ever does that during any event.
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The only measurement of the pockets given was the width of the pocket opening, and was called a stock pocket, thats a lie.
And of course no one give the pocket dimensions when tables are being supplied for a tournament because they're the stock pocket openings for those manufactured tables, and it wouldn't be worth the time or effort to alter all the pockets to make them accept balls a lot easier!
tomatoshooter
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Perspective is a hell of a drug. How far away is the camera?
Like I said, I don't care what the pocket openings are, what bothers me is the need or reason to lie about them being "stock" and within "BCA SPECS" when they're clearly not, so why HIDE the fact that they're made to accept balls a lot easier, what's the reason behind calling them something they're clearly not!? Look, if they want a gaff table in order to give the players the best chance there is to break JS high run record, who cares, it is what it is, just be honest about what was done to this table and the reasons why, that's all.
tomatoshooter
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I refuse to acknowledge any run on a table not equipped with #3 pocket irons.
Are you sure it isn’t that there’s something profoundly wrong with you that causes you to argue about literally everything
Did anyone hear them mention what the pocket facing angles were during the just-completed Arizona event? Of course not, because no-one ever does that during any event.
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The only measurement of the pockets given was the width of the pocket opening, and was called a stock pocket, thats a lie.
And of course no one give the pocket dimensions when tables are being supplied for a tournament because they're the stock pocket openings for those manufactured tables, and it wouldn't be worth the time or effort to alter all the pockets to make them accept balls a lot easier!
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Of course, I defer to your superior knowledge of the subject. My view is that we not to stop sweating this matter. Time to sit back and enjoy the show.
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The only measurement of the pockets given was the width of the pocket opening, and was called a stock pocket, thats a lie.
And of course no one give the pocket dimensions when tables are being supplied for a tournament because they're the stock pocket openings for those manufactured tables, and it wouldn't be worth the time or effort to alter all the pockets to make them accept balls a lot easier!
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Of course, I defer to your superior knowledge of the subject. My view is that we not to stop sweating this matter. Time to sit back and enjoy the show.
I guess my problem is I don't blindly believe all this BS like you do, as well as everyone else that has blind beliefs.