Earl Antics?

ITP began with Battle of the Sexes. One woman, one man. How can anyone argue that this is a men's tour?

Is there any men's tour? Joss Northeast 9-Ball Tour says nothing about being for men. Tiger Planet Pool Tour features “Open” and “Women’s” events, but no "men's" events. As far as I know, only the US Open open bans women, and that is just stupid.

Why would anyone care if a woman wants to play with men. THis is obviously not the same as letting men play in women's events
 
I think any tour should be open for either sex.Its not like strength comes into play in pool,except maybe the break.
Earl lost not because of the interview but because he was outplayed.His opponement had to contend with it also.I thought the cameramen were a little too in your face but thats why the players are getting the big bucks.
 
gregory said:
who ever said IPT was a men's event? The very first IPT event had one man, one woman. Hardly a men's event. THe IPT never was a men's tour and never will be.

Well from the looks of the results, in about 1 year, it will be the mens tour.
 
ironman said:
Well from the looks of the results, in about 1 year, it will be the mens tour.

I think Allison and Karen both proved they are very well capable to post some serious showings in some events. Allison went 3-2 and got beat on GLI. Karen beat a lot of top male performers in both the first and the second round. I dont think keeping their card is even an issue, they will not even be close to the bottom 50.

Kelly Fisher has a fan here, is she makes the top 65 I owe a drink to Onepocketchump. She will likely be a strong favorite to keep her card, maybe 66th place or so :p

The other ladies? Yep, they are toast I imagine. I expect 2 or 3 womem to keep their card. Karen and Allison for sure, Kelly probably, and the rest I will be surprised if they manage it. Next year 2 or 3 women in the IPT if none qualify. I would think Ga-Young Kim would be a threat in the tour as much as Karen and Allison but she did not get the initial invite and I think qualifying for 2007 is going to be ALOT harder then keeping your card in the 2006 season.
 
I think nearly all of the players would take a challenge match where the stakes were high and they had a great chance of cashing a huge ticket, but the kicker was that they had to fade an opponent who tried to shark them all the time.

I don't see where this is any different. There is huge money at stake here with dozens and dozens of players with an excellent chance to make six figures from tournament play alone. They will just need to adjust and learn to fade the distractions. If basketball players can make clutch free throws for big money with thousands of people screaming and shouting and waving and dancing, again I don't see where this is much different.
 
I have one word for Earl. KARMA
He is such a whiner baby. He is one of the greatest pool players, and whenever I hear his name the first thing that comes to mind is how much he cries and *****es. He's a disgrace. Im so glad he got his ass beat by a girl. In my next post I will tell you how I really feel.
 
bobroberts said:
I think any tour should be open for either sex.Its not like strength comes into play in pool,except maybe the break.
Earl lost not because of the interview but because he was outplayed.His opponement had to contend with it also.I thought the cameramen were a little too in your face but thats why the players are getting the big bucks.

i think the women should be allowed to play because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so everyone is looking for a hook as a possible solution to pool's dilema???? well,,,here it is....the women playing with the men. what other game has THAT,,,except tennis mixed doubles.

if the women can't do it, then they'll peter out of the tour. simple as that......let nature take its course.
 
Earl may Cry and Complain BUT put the cash up gambling and ill take him vs ANY of the women even up and Almsot ALL the MEN on tour. It just seems most people dont like earl for actually speaking his mind unlike everyone nowadays by being politically correct .
 
Jaden said:
I say let the men in. If you're going to let women play in tournaments where men primarily play, then let the men play in the women's tournaments. UNLESS, the women admit that they can't compete with the men? If that's the case then there's no reason for them to compete in men's events. They would just be taking the spots that the lesser capable men could be taking. If they want to do that, then let the lesser capable men compete in their tournies and take some of their spots. Don't be a hyppocrite is all I'm saying.

Jaden,

This debate has raged for years. Here is my take on it. The women are clearly inferior to the men as a group. This is quite simply because of the sheer numbers of men who play seriously compared to the relatively small numbers of women who play seriously. Mass makes class.

In every sport you have class divisions. This is to encourage players to move up to the the highest class they can handle. In the case of an exclusively women's tour it is the natural progression of women's professional billiards. Because the women as a group have a weaker standard of play than the men as a group, it is natural for the women to have a league of their own where the men cannot compete. Since the professional men are recognized as the premier players in the sport they should not exclude any human who wants to try and play against them yet they should also be gracious enough to recognize talent when it shows up.

For Earl or anyone to think that it is somehow unfair that the men are excluded from playing on the women's tour is ridiculous. That would be the equivalent of an A player insisting on his right to play in C-player only events.

The IPT makes it clear that it is a non-gender tour. Talent will determine who is on tour and who is not.

The WPBA is not sexist. The UPA is. The UPA calls itself the United PoolPlayer Association but it does not allow women to play in it's events. The UPA will accept and allow ANY player of any skill level to donate to it's tournaments UNLESS they are female. A handicapped quadrapelic would be allowed to be a UPA Professional before they will allow a woman. What are they afraid of? The same thing Earl is, getting their nuts shot off by a woman. If that isn't sexist then I don't know what is.

John
 
jbell said:
Earl may Cry and Complain BUT put the cash up gambling and ill take him vs ANY of the women even up and Almsot ALL the MEN on tour. It just seems most people dont like earl for actually speaking his mind unlike everyone nowadays by being politically correct .

Bet - I have $5000 that says Earl Strickland cannot beat Kelly Fisher at snooker on a 6x12 English Snooker Table. Earl can have all the practice he needs.

When she is done with him there, we'll move on to 8-ball, 10 ahead for $5000, alternate breaks.

After that, they can play 9-ball and then one pocket.

I don't like Earl because he is pure A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Yeah, he speaks his mind, but all that comes out is vitrolic bitter crap. The guy has talent but so do others who manage to be pleasant to be around and a wonder to watch.

I'll bet $100 that Kelly Fisher finishes the 2006 IPT season ranked ahead of Earl Strickland. You can collect at this time next year if you think wonderboy can control himself enough to play instead of complain.

John
 
I wish I knew who the hell Kelly Fischer was so I could bet. Okay, I looked she is #5 ranked women on the WPBA. Sorry I still wouldn't know her if she was carrying a pool cue walking thru the mall.
 
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onepocketchump said:
Bet - I have $5000 that says Earl Strickland cannot beat Kelly Fisher at snooker on a 6x12 English Snooker Table. Earl can have all the practice he needs.

When she is done with him there, we'll move on to 8-ball, 10 ahead for $5000, alternate breaks.

After that, they can play 9-ball and then one pocket.

I don't like Earl because he is pure A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Yeah, he speaks his mind, but all that comes out is vitrolic bitter crap. The guy has talent but so do others who manage to be pleasant to be around and a wonder to watch.

I'll bet $100 that Kelly Fisher finishes the 2006 IPT season ranked ahead of Earl Strickland. You can collect at this time next year if you think wonderboy can control himself enough to play instead of complain.

John

Supposedly Earl quit gambling because he got sick and tired of having to outrun the nuts. Are you saying you would put Kelly Fisher up against him even in 9-ball and 8-ball?
 
onepocketchump said:
I'll bet $100 that Kelly Fisher finishes the 2006 IPT season ranked ahead of Earl Strickland. You can collect at this time next year if you think wonderboy can control himself enough to play instead of complain.

John

Do you often have these weird dreams?

LOL

Jake
 
LastTwo said:
I guess Earl had an early exit from the tournament. Does anyone know what was going on with him? I heard he was upset about something.

When he played Gerda he kept saying "this game is too easy". His problem is that he never made a ball on the break and scratched 3 times breaking. I never heard him complain about playing women. Except that he said, watch, she will make a couple balls on the break. And Gerda played well.

Anyway he sure was hounded by the camera crew. They caught up with him by the escalators when I thought he was leaving for good. But he kept coming back and kept getting grilled. And I even saw the crew take a few retakes with Johnny Archer getting his opinion of Earl. I hope I get to see
those clips.

Let's face it, the target audiance is TV. Earl will be the bad boy of the IPT and will be used to attract the viewers. Everybody loves to hate a bad boy. LOL. It is smart PR. And Earl will finish in the top 20 and make well over $200,000 next year. Especially with private appearances set up by Kevin.

Jake
 
onepocketchump said:
Bet - I have $5000 that says Earl Strickland cannot beat Kelly Fisher at snooker on a 6x12 English Snooker Table. Earl can have all the practice he needs.

When she is done with him there, we'll move on to 8-ball, 10 ahead for $5000, alternate breaks.

After that, they can play 9-ball and then one pocket.

I don't like Earl because he is pure A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Yeah, he speaks his mind, but all that comes out is vitrolic bitter crap. The guy has talent but so do others who manage to be pleasant to be around and a wonder to watch.

I'll bet $100 that Kelly Fisher finishes the 2006 IPT season ranked ahead of Earl Strickland. You can collect at this time next year if you think wonderboy can control himself enough to play instead of complain.

John

Hey John, I have no doubt Kelly would kick Earl's ass up and down a snooker table, but I doubt she'd touch him in 9-ball. I've seen her game up close and personal, but I think in the long run, Earl gets her at 9. As much as I agree with your characterization of Earl, I think Kelly's still got to have some weight to beat Earl (at 9 ball, at least). I've never seen her play 8 ball, so I'd have to reserve judgment on that.

I hope you have lots of $100 bills, 'cause there's probably quite a few fanboys willing to take Earl's side....

-djb <--not a fanboy, doesn't like Earl's side
 
DoomCue said:
Hey John, I have no doubt Kelly would kick Earl's ass up and down a snooker table, but I doubt she'd touch him in 9-ball. I've seen her game up close and personal, but I think in the long run, Earl gets her at 9. As much as I agree with your characterization of Earl, I think Kelly's still got to have some weight to beat Earl (at 9 ball, at least). I've never seen her play 8 ball, so I'd have to reserve judgment on that.

I hope you have lots of $100 bills, 'cause there's probably quite a few fanboys willing to take Earl's side....

-djb <--not a fanboy, doesn't like Earl's side

When Earl gets in stroke, he's the best 9-ball player in THE WORLD. If anyone saw him steamroll at the most recent US Open, then you would know how he can play. Kelly could get the 5-ball, it wouldn't matter, she wouldn't get to the table enough to make it count.
 
I wonder if Earl was a little bitter because up until now, the fact that he has not been inducted to the BCA Hall of Fame never cost him a red cent. This weeekend, however, as he'd have been guaranteed $30,000, his inexpliucable omission from the hall of fame cost him a minimum of $23,800, as he walked away with just $6,200.
 
sjm said:
I wonder if Earl was a little bitter because up until now, the fact that he has not been inducted to the BCA Hall of Fame never cost him a red cent. This weeekend, however, as he'd have been guaranteed $30,000, his inexpliucable omission from the hall of fame cost him a minimum of $23,800, as he walked away with just $6,200.

SJM I think you may have hit it right on the head. Earls always looking for an edge or looking to create an edge (gloves,glasses,etc). Here being in the HOF would have been a distinct edge.

Terry
 
onepocketchump said:
Bet - I have $5000 that says Earl Strickland cannot beat Kelly Fisher at snooker on a 6x12 English Snooker Table. Earl can have all the practice he needs.

When she is done with him there, we'll move on to 8-ball, 10 ahead for $5000, alternate breaks.

After that, they can play 9-ball and then one pocket.

I don't like Earl because he is pure A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Yeah, he speaks his mind, but all that comes out is vitrolic bitter crap. The guy has talent but so do others who manage to be pleasant to be around and a wonder to watch.

I'll bet $100 that Kelly Fisher finishes the 2006 IPT season ranked ahead of Earl Strickland. You can collect at this time next year if you think wonderboy can control himself enough to play instead of complain.

John

Hay jhon please tell us how u realy Feel .About Earl....
 
jbell said:
Earl may Cry and Complain BUT put the cash up gambling and ill take him vs ANY of the women even up and Almsot ALL the MEN on tour. It just seems most people dont like earl for actually speaking his mind unlike everyone nowadays by being politically correct .


Against any woman? WEEEEEELLLLL, button your top button, your heart is showing.
 
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