Ok Jeff after all I have done for you now you turn on me keeping my money and refusing me a refund on the piece of junk you made for me ... After I gave you the money to refund Remy to keep your name clean ... Bought you alot of nice looking wood and quality tips and tried to get you to use qualtiy material and shafts in your cues instead of the junk shafts and wood you buy and try to turn down to get the rolls out of it ... Stuff at least one other cue maker we both know would of thrown away ... I've gone to bat for you over and over but not no more your on your own ... I will not get burned by you anymore ... You don't stand behind your product you can't you dont have the funds too... That is why you use the cheapest stuff you can buy to make cues with like the fiberglass ferrells your pushing now that you get for 50 cents a foot .. Or the bad shafts That is why they roll out or fall apart ... You and I are done and through and without me there to buy good wood for you and quality tips and stuff and give you cash to help bail you out of your troubles you are going to be in for some rough times ... Good Luck and God bless anymore of us fools that put our trust in you ... Just putting my name out there with yours is a downer ...