Efren Reyes fluke 9 ball against Appleton 2012 US Open

Well if i ever get the chance to talk with him, i will definitely clear this one for everyone, i have seen post positive and negative comments, but what way to clear this out but to ask him "Efren" what was his real intention. Just give me time to ask him.

The only thing lucky about the shot was that the 9 went in. I don't believe he was just bashing at the 9 here. I think he was playing the 4 in the corner because even if he misses the cueball goes way up table. So he hit the side of the 4 he wanted to with the cueball. Watch the shot and watch where the cueball goes......way up table....
 
1. I don't think his goal was to make the 9.
2. I wouldn't bet that it didn't cross his mind.
2.1. The 4 followed a well-known path to the side (that's mostly a gimmick shot, but sometimes you have to kick on that line when getting out of a safe, for example).
2.2. If the 4 hits the nine, it will stay in the middle of the table, which is good given where the CB is going.
2.3. So he says to himself, "I'm going to kick this shot [the one-rail bank] a little wide, because then it will drop or come out and be stopped by the 9. Hell, I might even make the 9 in the side."​

I'm not saying that *is* how it happened. And even if it is, the outcome is still lucky--just not as lucky as most everyone seems to think.

But it's certainly possible. Don't you think about whether it's better to miss a bank short or long? Is it possible that Efren is enough better than you to do that same thing when he's kicking?

Cory
 
Too many cry babies.... you don't think someone should celebrate because they beat you????? Get over it!!!!! If losing a real problem and they can't handle someone else celebrating their victory... they should quit or play better so they can win and celebrate themselves. 9 ball is a game where these things happen if you don't like it don't play 9 ball. You shouldn't be looked down on for celebrating.... maybe for being a poor loser.
 
HERE'S the last rack of the Efren Reyes and Darren Appleton's match. Enjoy!
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btw, Efren shook Daz' hand 3 seconds after the 9 went in, so I don't know what the Dynamite was b!tching about...

LMAO!!! What about Darren's lucky ass rolls in that rack. Let's see.

Darren breaks and has a fairly routine shot. Good roll!

Then Darren misses the routine shot and leaves Efren a super-stroker. Good Roll!

Then Efren fires it in, but barely hooks himself. GOOD ROLL!!!

Then Efren kicks the 2 real good. But the CB hits the titty instead of rolling behind the 7 as planned. GREAT ROLL!!!!!

Then Darren kicks the 2 sort of safe. Efren return safes.

THEN....Darren kicks the 2 like sh1t and should have scratched in the side. Instead he leaves Efren on the wrong side of the 2. FANTASTIC ROLL!!!!!!

Then Efren tries to get to the 4 but ooops, hits the 6 and again he's hooked. Darren Appleton, the luckiest guy on the planet!!

After all that...Efren kicks this ball like an absolute champion but, luckily for Darren it was just a little soft. Darren can see the edge. Another great roll for the Brit.

Then...Darren misses his safe by a mile...but omg, gets another lucky safe. LMAO.

Finally, Efren gets a good roll...btw, it was another champion kick as the 4 was hidden. The 9 was a bonus.

When you dog the first shot of the rack...you better just be praying that you get another shot, let alone a shot on every f'ng ball!!!!
 
LMAO!!! What about Darren's lucky ass rolls in that rack. Let's see.

Darren breaks and has a fairly routine shot. Good roll!

Then Darren misses the routine shot and leaves Efren a super-stroker. Good Roll!

Then Efren fires it in, but barely hooks himself. GOOD ROLL!!!

Then Efren kicks the 2 real good. But the CB hits the titty instead of rolling behind the 7 as planned. GREAT ROLL!!!!!

Then Darren kicks the 2 sort of safe. Efren return safes.

THEN....Darren kicks the 2 like sh1t and should have scratched in the side. Instead he leaves Efren on the wrong side of the 2. FANTASTIC ROLL!!!!!!

Then Efren tries to get to the 4 but ooops, hits the 6 and again he's hooked. Darren Appleton, the luckiest guy on the planet!!

After all that...Efren kicks this ball like an absolute champion but, luckily for Darren it was just a little soft. Darren can see the edge. Another great roll for the Brit.

Then...Darren misses his safe by a mile...but omg, gets another lucky safe. LMAO.

Finally, Efren gets a good roll...btw, it was another champion kick as the 4 was hidden. The 9 was a bonus.

When you dog the first shot of the rack...you better just be praying that you get another shot, let alone a shot on every f'ng ball!!!!


We are on the same side here bud...
 
Are you joking? Either that or you didn't see it or you are completely clueless about pool lol. Efren went for the 4 in the corner. Crazy comments in this forum lol.

Daz is one of the most respectful and honest players EVER to play the game.

I love Efren to bits and don't have a major problem with his celebration. If all the Daz fans are honest it's not the celebration thats the problem... its how sick we feel after a tight match was settled by such a crazy fluke.

I think it's more of an English thing that you humbly apologise first and celebrate second but, like I say, Efren's not english and I still love the guy and if Daz wasn't playing I'm sure most of us would want the Magician to win.

Yeah, Daz doesn't celebrate before shaking hands....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLXYI_t5Ydk
 
Given the speed he shot at I'd guess he was shooting the one rail kick to the side, but more importantly, I also think he was playing CB position for a safety, sending whitey up table behind all those balls.

I also think the thing to remember about Efren is that there's probably not a mean bone in his body and what you saw was an almost childlike exuberance when, one of those crazy things we've all seen happen on a pool table, happened. That it happened hill-hill, on the Accu-Stats table, at the US Open, against a great opponent was just icing on the cake. There is not a one of us who wouldn't have gone a little nuts in the same situation.

Lou Figueroa
Excellent post.....
 
I think this was great.

Compare what he did to other mainstream professional sports:

In baseball, the team meets the batter at home plate if he hits a walk-off homerun. Remember the Prince Fielder "bowling" celebration?

In football, the players do little dances when they SCORE... not even win, just score! Imagine if every pool player did dumbass Tom Cruise/Color of Money dances after every shot!

In hockey, they just beat the shit out of each other.

They ain't playing hockey right now.
 
Daz was over this an hour after the match was over. I understand we all have our favorite players and I am obviously biased but.. seriously? Darren never once said Efren shouldnt have celebrated for fluking the 9 and I cant believe there are idiots here claiming he did.
 
Given the speed he shot at I'd guess he was shooting the one rail kick to the side, but more importantly, I also think he was playing CB position for a safety, sending whitey up table behind all those balls.

I also think the thing to remember about Efren is that there's probably not a mean bone in his body and what you saw was an almost childlike exuberance when, one of those crazy things we've all seen happen on a pool table, happened. That it happened hill-hill, on the Accu-Stats table, at the US Open, against a great opponent was just icing on the cake. There is not a one of us who wouldn't have gone a little nuts in the same situation.

Lou Figueroa

I remember a similar response from Efren when beating Earl many years ago with the 'z kick' to put in the 9 for the win when hooked. It's a natural response to the amazingly fortunate event that just happened. On the one hand I don't think you can blame him because you know there was no malice intended, on the other hand, I would have restrained myself and even apologized... JMO
 
Re-watched this match today. Loved the three and a half minute pause while Darren thinks about the safety at 8:30. :smile:
 
The December, 2012 issue of Billiards Digest has an article on the U.S. Open with mention of Efren's hill-hill win over Darren. The author writes:

Famous for how lucky he can be, Reyes really meant it this time. "That was only luck," he said of the match-winning shot. "I tried to bank [the 4] and maybe play safe. The 9 was only luck."​
 
I remember a similar response from Efren when beating Earl many years ago with the 'z kick' to put in the 9 for the win when hooked. It's a natural response to the amazingly fortunate event that just happened. On the one hand I don't think you can blame him because you know there was no malice intended, on the other hand, I would have restrained myself and even apologized... JMO

i believe you were referring to this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJiqDS4N2YQ#t=1m56s
i think the safety shot was awesome though. unfortunately the object ball caused another ball to be pocketed - which was very unfortunate.
good thing he was able to pull the Z. well, things happen. :)
 
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