Efren Reyes vs Scott Frost - Who do you like?

watchez said:
You have to understand that SJDick is in the one pocket HOF, even though I never heard of him til AZ Billiards started. I guess he feels that Efren shouldn't be in this HOF with him, cause he wasn't great.
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When have I ever said anything remotely like that?..(very snarky comment, even for you!) :(

watchez said:
How old are you now?
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I will be 83 in September!..Too old to be dangerous at anything but verbal warfare..with lightweights! :cool:
 
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SJDinPHX said:
Efren Reyes..best pool player of our generation, ABSOLUTELY!..Best one pocket player ever..Sorry Billy, not by a long shot!..BTW, for those who may be interested, I have had some limited success too..When I was about 63, I easily gave Steve Cook a ball, (8/7) more than once, for a good bit of cash when he was playing his best..Many witnesses!..:cool:
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And then.....

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=170043&page=3

SJDinPHX said:
Lenny,

This is just my opinion. Scott would probably be the favorite, to beat anybody in the world RIGHT NOW, at one pocket, in a long set.

I am trying not to live in the past, but for about ten years of his prime, No one on earth, before or since...could have beat RA even up, when his mixture was right. (which he controlled very well)
I never saw him shoot the wrong shot, and he could run 8 or 10 and out, as easy as Scott does, on a lot tougher equipment. (and also in a lot rougher spots)

I know its hard to look at him now, and see that...but I honestly believe that Efren (in his prime) may not have got there, due to Ronnie's superior moving, not to mention the conversation. Red was never near the "cash getter" that RA was, even though their game was pretty close.

If you tried to pin me down, to the best in their primes..I would say #1 all time--- RA/Worst, a toss up...then Marvin Henderson/Efren tied for #2, Then I would rate Jersey Red, Ed Kelly, and Scott, a close 3rd. (along with maybe AB and several others) Artie apparently played a great game, but he just never left his home court enough for ANYONE to accurately judge his speed. I have been around a little bit, and never saw, or heard of AB, until I joined 1P.org. a few years ago...And I'm not the only one to say that.

Again, this is just based on my experience, and what I've seen. And its JMHO

Cardone or Grady may see it different, and they have seen all those guys in action more than I have. Be interesting to see their take on this subject.

SJD
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watchez said:
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http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=170043&page=3
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I don't see what you find so out of line with my two posts. If you think it was because I rated Efren above Scott (at that point in time) I may well have felt that way, until it was proven different!

Its good to see that you are making good use of your obviously unlimited time!..Let me offer you some advice though..You are NOT Cardone, so don't even try to get the best of me, in any pool related conversation!..You cannot win at that game!..:sorry:
 
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lfigueroa said:
Efren is the best 1pocket player of all time, to say otherwise is ludicrous....
...I put a bet on Efren too, and like BmoreMoney, I'm not upset in the slightest. How can you be upset with a guy who has taught the entire community of 1pocket players new shots, new strategies, and a new level of play? Efren is in a category all his own.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou, I cannot believe I'm hearing this from you!..Efren is definitely in a category all his own..The category just doesn't happen to be one pocket!..Just call me Mr. Ludicrous. :rolleyes:

PS..You should have listened to me, and saved your money for another shot at Barton..I would love to see that again! :grin:
 
EFREN, for 20+ years, was best 1P and best all around which imho qualifies him the best pool player of recorded history. WORST, although brilliant, wasn't around long enough

next 3 (no particular order)---Busty, Hall, Parica

knockin on the door---Varner

an argument can be made for many others
 
Scott takes 1st game of the day

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Efren won two in a row yay :happydance::happydance::happydance::dance::dance::rotflmao::yeah::angel::nanner::clapping:

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The chances of Efren winning are very slim...but I wish him to finish bravely.
.....play like a champion.
 
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