got my milk duds today, can't wait to go try em out. I'll let ya know how it goes.
elk master vs. Talisman?
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well it didnt go very well. I normally put tips on myself, but I went ahead and spent the $10 and had a "pro" put it on. I got it back, and it was almost totally decompressed. I tried to play with it, but every time I hit with it, it felt like it was getting ready to fall off. I could definatly put more spin on the CB with a lot less effort, but it felt terrible. So I got pissed, hacked it off, and put another one on myself. It looks a lot better than the previous one, but unfortunatley I didn't have time to try it out. Going shootin again tomorrow, we'll see how it goes.
I have a LePro I installed myself on my cue since my Talisman soft wore out and I didn't feel like spending $$ to install another (I'm not confident enough to install my own layered tips). I haven't noticed any difference in my draw shots. Then again, my Pechauer is, according to a friend of mine, "whippy as hell" so idk if that may also be a part of it.
well I dont know if it was a bad tip, or bad installation, but that first tip sucked. Now, the one I put on is crazy as hell! I cannot believe how easy it is to work the ball with this tip. It feels great now, I played 4 straight hours, every shot, with the milk dud I put on, and the more I hit it, the better it felt. No mushrooms, and it held its shape near perfectly. The only bad part is, with the increased spin, I really need to play a lot to get adjusted to it. I am very pleased with it, and as soon as my Joss arrives, its gonna get its very own milk dud, lol! thanks for all the help fellas.
Joe
Joe
Good question. I was wondering the same thing
how does it compare to a milk dud? I like the everest, but I don't like the price
if you buy 'em yourself you'll save money. it's like 3 tips for under 25
I've played with Talisman but it was a Soft tere is were i beilive you consist English and it doe's not have the mushy "fell of the Elkmaster".The WB just there nature of the them a HARD tip. That WB is Talisman version of a Break-Cue tip
Joe, try a Talisman soft. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
I have tried tons of tips. Triangle, Moori Q and Medium, Tiger Green tips, Le Pro, Sniper, Everest, etc.
I love the Everest thats on my Predator. Love it. My g/f uses an Elkmaster on a Tiger Ultra X shaft, and I cannot tell a difference in my amount of english that I can attain using either shaft. She tells me she doesnt like the way my cue feels, and me vice versa. I'll shoot with anything, but really love the way the Predator feels and the way the Everest performs. On about 6-8 months and have not had to touch it shape wise. No mushrooming.
The Elkmaster does need trimming until it shapes out. But I've also replaced 3 tips on 3 peoples cues in the last couple weeks and they all wanted Elkmaster. One had a Triangle, then wanted an Elkmaster on after using another persons cue. And the Elks are DIRT CHEAP, which is nice.
I love the Everest thats on my Predator. Love it. My g/f uses an Elkmaster on a Tiger Ultra X shaft, and I cannot tell a difference in my amount of english that I can attain using either shaft. She tells me she doesnt like the way my cue feels, and me vice versa. I'll shoot with anything, but really love the way the Predator feels and the way the Everest performs. On about 6-8 months and have not had to touch it shape wise. No mushrooming.
The Elkmaster does need trimming until it shapes out. But I've also replaced 3 tips on 3 peoples cues in the last couple weeks and they all wanted Elkmaster. One had a Triangle, then wanted an Elkmaster on after using another persons cue. And the Elks are DIRT CHEAP, which is nice.
nagardy
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hey work on your stroke and also try a moori soft tip am using a moori medium and its great i wish i could get the moori soft but were i live its too expensive its like 2000jamaican dollar for just a single 1 , but i must say the moori medium put spin on the cue ball like crazy hope this helps
I got some Milk Dud tips from Jeff, ( Pooldawg8 ) their made from Elk Masters and they play great !
Try em, you won't be disappointed and they hold their shape very well.
I would say they feel like a medium tip, very nice feel.
There's some nice reviews in the Review Section.
Tommyd1
Try em, you won't be disappointed and they hold their shape very well.
I would say they feel like a medium tip, very nice feel.
There's some nice reviews in the Review Section.
Tommyd1
I have been using the Kamui medium soft and I love them. No mushrooming, very little scuffing required and the get great action on the cue ball.
I honestly believe its what you get used to. I like hard tips, because I grew up using them and it is what I know.
I've seen very good players who couldn't tell you what tip they have on a cue, very good that use elk masters, and some that used lepro. Used to go to college with a guy that could make a cue do some amazing things, things I haven't seen since. He was using a old lepro which would have been pretty hard as thin as i was, on a d14 mcdermott.
One of the best players I've ever seen actually, and he just had a work of art stroke.
I've seen very good players who couldn't tell you what tip they have on a cue, very good that use elk masters, and some that used lepro. Used to go to college with a guy that could make a cue do some amazing things, things I haven't seen since. He was using a old lepro which would have been pretty hard as thin as i was, on a d14 mcdermott.
One of the best players I've ever seen actually, and he just had a work of art stroke.
My favorite line I hear all to often is " Put a tip on my cue that can draw real good" Now this is mostly from your avarage banger or new league player. It is about what your preference is. I have a customer that plays with an ivory jointed Scruggs, ivory ferrules and uses nothing but black buffalo tips. Very hard hit, but he is a great player and had great cue ball control.
Not always just the tip
Correct,
Some is the Ferrule, some the shaft , stiff , whippy, deflection, non deflection, Ivory joints, weight of cues, there is a zillion variables that can make one cue spin more. Not to mentiion gripping the cue more lightly than the next guy, and just being a more wirey kinda player real loosey goosey if you know what I mean.
Keep on experimenting, you'll find what you want, or take lessons. Maybe someone will help.
JerseyBill
Correct,
Some is the Ferrule, some the shaft , stiff , whippy, deflection, non deflection, Ivory joints, weight of cues, there is a zillion variables that can make one cue spin more. Not to mentiion gripping the cue more lightly than the next guy, and just being a more wirey kinda player real loosey goosey if you know what I mean.
Keep on experimenting, you'll find what you want, or take lessons. Maybe someone will help.
JerseyBill
my 2 paso's.
The milk duds are more consistant than the standard elkes, but you still get quite a variation from a really good one to an average.
The ability to stroke the ball has a huge impact to the amount of spin or draw on the cue ball.
The choices are find a tip that suites your stroke, or develop a stroke to use a tip.
All said, I find the laminated tips are better value for your time.
You get good playing time on the same tip, more consistant from tip to tip,and from an installation point of view, less failures,(either a bad hitting tip or the odd accordion.)
The milk duds are more consistant than the standard elkes, but you still get quite a variation from a really good one to an average.
The ability to stroke the ball has a huge impact to the amount of spin or draw on the cue ball.
The choices are find a tip that suites your stroke, or develop a stroke to use a tip.
All said, I find the laminated tips are better value for your time.
You get good playing time on the same tip, more consistant from tip to tip,and from an installation point of view, less failures,(either a bad hitting tip or the odd accordion.)