Embarrassing Question
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I do as a miscue could be due to a bit of glazing over, hence the hard shiny part you see.
I used to scuff thinking that the miscue was because of the tip, but I don't any longer because I know the miscue was because of a bad stroke. I just chalk up and keep on truckin'.......
Make sure you also look at your tip with a quizical look after you miscue or miss, that way the other people won't think it was your fault and will blame the tip 
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The issue with scuffing it and chalking again, if you do this again the same night, you can't just blame the tip. An no pool player wants to have nothing to blame a mistake on.
I just leave my tip as is, so I can continue to blame it. You are clearly not a real pool player if you want to fix what is wrong instead of looking for an excuse! Also whatever you do, don't post the brand of tip and chalk you use or there will be a 10 page thread where people will say "You should get X brand tip and Y brand chalk, I never miscue with those".
:The issue with scuffing it and chalking again, if you do this again the same night, you can't just blame the tip. An no pool player wants to have nothing to blame a mistake on.
I just leave my tip as is, so I can continue to blame it. You are clearly not a real pool player if you want to fix what is wrong instead of looking for an excuse! Also whatever you do, don't post the brand of tip and chalk you use or there will be a 10 page thread where people will say "You should get X brand tip and Y brand chalk, I never miscue with those".
Make sure you also look at your tip with a quizical look after you miscue or miss, that way the other people won't think it was your fault and will blame the tip
The issue with scuffing it and chalking again, if you do this again the same night, you can't just blame the tip. An no pool player wants to have nothing to blame a mistake on.
I just leave my tip as is, so I can continue to blame it. You are clearly not a real pool player if you want to fix what is wrong instead of looking for an excuse! Also whatever you do, don't post the brand of tip and chalk you use or there will be a 10 page thread where people will say "You should get X brand tip and Y brand chalk, I never miscue with those".
Ah, good response! I actually laughed out loud.
I will incorporate the incredulous look at the tip after dogging it into my post shot routine.
It might take some practice to non verbally communicate the "I would be a much better player if it weren't for inferior equipment".
I find that sighing and slumping your shoulders a bit with a small shrug brings together nicely the overall feeling of "what can you do, the gods hate me today" that you will be trying to convey.
I don't scuff my tip ever after the initial install. I will use the occasional tip tapper but that's about it.
Some people have a hard time believing this but I see no way to refute the fact that chalk is abrasive and for me, I've concluded it's the chalk that eats away my tip over time. What else could it be? The only two things that touch my tip are the chalk and the cue ball.
So when I miscue, I just give the miscue spot on the tip several real good swipes with the chalk, making sure that I get that shiny spot roughed up a bit. I suppose it may depend on what type of chalk you use. If you use some of that stuff that wipes on like lip stick you may not feel like your miscue mark will be sufficiently scuffed up but maybe that doesn't even matter.
When it comes to miscuing, I've found I tend to miscue most often on those short little jab stroke draw shots. I have a tendency to jump up on those. Those are about the only ones I miscue on.
Some people have a hard time believing this but I see no way to refute the fact that chalk is abrasive and for me, I've concluded it's the chalk that eats away my tip over time. What else could it be? The only two things that touch my tip are the chalk and the cue ball.
So when I miscue, I just give the miscue spot on the tip several real good swipes with the chalk, making sure that I get that shiny spot roughed up a bit. I suppose it may depend on what type of chalk you use. If you use some of that stuff that wipes on like lip stick you may not feel like your miscue mark will be sufficiently scuffed up but maybe that doesn't even matter.
When it comes to miscuing, I've found I tend to miscue most often on those short little jab stroke draw shots. I have a tendency to jump up on those. Those are about the only ones I miscue on.
Do you really look closely at the tip and the "bald" spot? Any chance you are really stroking over the cue ball? Perhaps under the cue ball? Way too many players don't realize that error. They keep working on the tip and never consider the alternatives.
I tend to over-stroke the cue ball low. When I check the tip, the top edge has a small "bald" spot where the tip hit the cue ball. Rarely do I actually mis-cue. Rough the tip each day. Chalk before every shot. Just a routine.
Lyn
I tend to over-stroke the cue ball low. When I check the tip, the top edge has a small "bald" spot where the tip hit the cue ball. Rarely do I actually mis-cue. Rough the tip each day. Chalk before every shot. Just a routine.
Lyn
I'm in Russ's camp on this. I never scuff my tip, and almost never miscue. When I do, I chalk the tip and continue.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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You better scuff or else this could happen...
Like others have suggested, after miscueing, look at the tip with absolute disgust and whine just loud enough for others to hear, "Those (fill in the blank, damned/layered/cheap/ass tips"). You can get really good at this and your friends will just think you know a lot about pool, or not, depending upon how much they know about pool.
Shiny, glazed tips, should be LIGHTLY scuffed, but CHALKING WELL (covering every area of the tip with a light coat) is most likely a habit that you need to develop on every single shot, then if you miscue, you can then work on the main problem, which is most likely your stroke, or inability to hit the cue ball where you THINK you are hitting it. That's the cruel truth right there. :wink:
Good luck. It's a fun sport and you can only improve from here on in.
JoeyA
P.S. Oh yeah, learn where the miscue limit is located on the cue ball. (There is one)..... Search forum.....
Shiny, glazed tips, should be LIGHTLY scuffed, but CHALKING WELL (covering every area of the tip with a light coat) is most likely a habit that you need to develop on every single shot, then if you miscue, you can then work on the main problem, which is most likely your stroke, or inability to hit the cue ball where you THINK you are hitting it. That's the cruel truth right there. :wink:
Good luck. It's a fun sport and you can only improve from here on in.
JoeyA
P.S. Oh yeah, learn where the miscue limit is located on the cue ball. (There is one)..... Search forum.....
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Very sound advise
Most of my miscue's are from me not hitting the cue ball in a reasonable manner and i normally only scuff the tip when i start to have problems getting draw or follow through.
Most of my miscue's are from me not hitting the cue ball in a reasonable manner and i normally only scuff the tip when i start to have problems getting draw or follow through.
No no no no, you all are doing things wrong here.
Like a politician or lawyer a proper pool player needs to first find someone or something else to blame.
It's not your fault, you were raised in a non-loving home where your mother made you wash dishes when you were only 4 and only fed you heavy plain oatmeal twice a day which caused you to develop an un-natural arm muscle growth from the dish washing and oatmeal eating motions, and THAT is what caused you to mess up your stoke. I mean it's clear were the fault is.
Not all miscues are due to cueing errors, some are actually due to poorly manicured tips. I live on the edge of the cue ball and like to keep my tip pretty rough to avoid miscues. When I miscue, which isn't that often at all, it is my fault for either allowing the tip to reach a state where a miscue will happen or by making a cueing error. I always look at the tip, this isn't to blame the tip, it is to find out how much of the tip made contact with the cue ball. Where the bald spot starts will tell me how close to my intended cueing point I was. If it is a large spot closer to the center, the state of the tip is more to blame as it means I was pretty close to my intended cueing point. If it is a small spot very close to the edge of the tip, then I cued outside of the miscue limit and stroke is to blame. Either way I will always use my gator grip to roughen the tip after any miscue, even if the tip didn't cause the miscue, the smooth spot you just made might cause a problem later on. I will also recommend carefully chalking to full coverage on every shot.
Get yourself a gator grip type tool, I know kamui is overpriced but there are cheaper versions to be had. I will preach the use of these things religiously to anyone who will listen. I use mine every three or four racks and my tips are lasting longer than ever. The first tip I used it on was a Kamui that lasted for thirteen months of two or three times a week play. The only reason I had to change it was it had become too compressed, it actually didn't lose as much as one layer of leather. That was roughening it every four racks or so, every time. I don't actually use a scuffing motion, I roll the tip along the surface like a wheel and adjust the angle to cover the whole tip, it takes about five seconds. Get one of these and keep your tip rough and you will always know your
miscues are caused by cueing errors.
Looking at the tip can be helpful on any shot where you want to judge where on the cue ball you hit. It takes a little practice, but you can become quite keen at reading the impact mark left on the tip and gleaning where impact occurred on the cue ball. This can be very useful information that can be used to learn quite a bit about your cueing habits and make adjustments to your stroke.
Get yourself a gator grip type tool, I know kamui is overpriced but there are cheaper versions to be had. I will preach the use of these things religiously to anyone who will listen. I use mine every three or four racks and my tips are lasting longer than ever. The first tip I used it on was a Kamui that lasted for thirteen months of two or three times a week play. The only reason I had to change it was it had become too compressed, it actually didn't lose as much as one layer of leather. That was roughening it every four racks or so, every time. I don't actually use a scuffing motion, I roll the tip along the surface like a wheel and adjust the angle to cover the whole tip, it takes about five seconds. Get one of these and keep your tip rough and you will always know your
miscues are caused by cueing errors.
Looking at the tip can be helpful on any shot where you want to judge where on the cue ball you hit. It takes a little practice, but you can become quite keen at reading the impact mark left on the tip and gleaning where impact occurred on the cue ball. This can be very useful information that can be used to learn quite a bit about your cueing habits and make adjustments to your stroke.
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i agree with you about chalk wears a tip out.
i never scuff my tip either. well probably 2 or 3 times on the 8 year old tip i replaced a couple of months ago. i only chalk about once a rack also. and i only swipe the chalk very lightly.
my gf on the other hand has replaced her tip 4 times in the last 3 years. she has never scuffed her tips either but she grinds the cube against her tip just about every trip to the table.
i very seldom miscue but when i do its mostly when the cue ball is on the rail.
i know when i do that its because of my stroke and not my tip or lack of chalk.