Emily Duddy VS Ine Helvik match Amway Cup March 2013
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Lol I can't believe wtf I'm reading. You started this thread and posted that video (which as far as I can tell shows 2 middling B players hacking their way through a race to 7), solicited praise and criticism, and now you're calling everyone who called it as it is mean-spirited and pathetic. You then go on to compare yourself to all the top female pros, then ended your ramblings with a quote from Michael Jordan. Incredible solipsism is at display here, I hope you realize that.
Take about 50 steps back and try to gain some perspective. Anyone who agrees with you that you're a "great player" is not your friend. That includes every moronic high-fiver in this thread.
-roger
And we can't believe what we are reading from you.... Is this what big bad dudes do on the internet, try and attack woman on pool forums... we are all so proud of you. Yes, I know, you never got to date a cheerleader in HS, and you're gonna take it out on every pretty girl on the net.
Cause Lord knows you would not say it to her face especially with any guys from AZB standing around..... Well played Sir,,, impressive indeed
And we can't believe what we are reading from you.... Is this what big bad dudes do on the internet, try and attack woman on pool forums... we are all so proud of you. Yes, I know, you never got to date a cheerleader in HS, and you're gonna take it out on every pretty girl on the net.
Cause Lord knows you would not say it to her face especially with any guys from AZB standing around..... Well played Sir,,, impressive indeed
To the implied charge of sexism: just because a man points out the obvious absurdity in a woman's opinion about herself, doesn't necessarily mean it's an attack on "women." Not pointing it out because it's coming from a women would actually be sexist and offensive. Get this through your thick skull. This forum does not exist to spread incessant praise. You are free to nuthug, and I am free to point out the reality of the situation.
As for your little fantasy scenario of stepping in between me and Emily, just realize that it's slightly creepy and that I can hear your mouth-breathing from here.
-roger
And we can't believe what we are reading from you.... Is this what big bad dudes do on the internet, try and attack woman on pool forums... we are all so proud of you. Yes, I know, you never got to date a cheerleader in HS, and you're gonna take it out on every pretty girl on the net.
Cause Lord knows you would not say it to her face especially with any guys from AZB standing around..... Well played Sir,,, impressive indeed
You are chivalrous young sir :barf:
Butterfly
Emily Duddy
A long road ahead of me...
I started this post in connection to someone else's post on a match from September as "my speed". I posted this match to show one that was more recent for those interested and I talked about the ways in which I've been trying to improve after learning from that match (which some people might find helpful). I was also looking for more constructive critisim, I feel like I definitely found some in this thread and I really appreciate it!
I am not saying that I am at the level of the top players yet, NEVER have I said that. I refer to myself as a great player because in my definition of that term I am and everyone is entitled to define things differently for themselves. I take no offense if you don't think I'm great, nor do I care. I am currently an exempt touring professional ranked 20th on the WPBA which by some standards (and currently the only's women's professional tour in America) would define me as a female professional player. I am ranked 8th amongst women professionals in the US (of course only those in the WPBA rankings) and have represented our country in 2 world championships. At this current time you have very few female US players amongst the best in the world and even less that can afford or have the desire to travel internationally. In each world championship you may have only 1,2 or 3 US players and frankly as an American I am always rooting for them because they need it and deserve it.
American players are currently the underdogs because we are going against players that have support from their country, their government and their culture. Many players at the Amway Cup had their coaches there, had everything paid for and only play pool for a living. I work 40-50 hour work weeks to pay for travel & entries, squeeze in practice 3-4 days a week, work with a coach one day a week, play in a straight pool league, captain a BCA 9 ball team and sleep and have a life when possible.
For me Allison, Kelly, Jasmin, Ga Young, Karen and countless Asian champions are beyond great. They are champions, accomplished & renowned. I consider them so much more than "great players".
I have come a long way and I still have a long road to reach the caliber of all these amazing women, most of whom I am friends with and whom I have the highest level of respect for.
I believe that the US culture will evolve into a more supportive place for Billiards and its players one day. I will do my best to help it progress in whatever way I can! Thank you everyone for your comments and keeping me intellectually stimulated! Please introduce yourself if you ever see me at an event!
This will be my last post on AZ for a little while, it can be addictive! I will keep reading comments and PM's though!
I started this post in connection to someone else's post on a match from September as "my speed". I posted this match to show one that was more recent for those interested and I talked about the ways in which I've been trying to improve after learning from that match (which some people might find helpful). I was also looking for more constructive critisim, I feel like I definitely found some in this thread and I really appreciate it!
I am not saying that I am at the level of the top players yet, NEVER have I said that. I refer to myself as a great player because in my definition of that term I am and everyone is entitled to define things differently for themselves. I take no offense if you don't think I'm great, nor do I care. I am currently an exempt touring professional ranked 20th on the WPBA which by some standards (and currently the only's women's professional tour in America) would define me as a female professional player. I am ranked 8th amongst women professionals in the US (of course only those in the WPBA rankings) and have represented our country in 2 world championships. At this current time you have very few female US players amongst the best in the world and even less that can afford or have the desire to travel internationally. In each world championship you may have only 1,2 or 3 US players and frankly as an American I am always rooting for them because they need it and deserve it.
American players are currently the underdogs because we are going against players that have support from their country, their government and their culture. Many players at the Amway Cup had their coaches there, had everything paid for and only play pool for a living. I work 40-50 hour work weeks to pay for travel & entries, squeeze in practice 3-4 days a week, work with a coach one day a week, play in a straight pool league, captain a BCA 9 ball team and sleep and have a life when possible.
For me Allison, Kelly, Jasmin, Ga Young, Karen and countless Asian champions are beyond great. They are champions, accomplished & renowned. I consider them so much more than "great players".
I have come a long way and I still have a long road to reach the caliber of all these amazing women, most of whom I am friends with and whom I have the highest level of respect for.
I believe that the US culture will evolve into a more supportive place for Billiards and its players one day. I will do my best to help it progress in whatever way I can! Thank you everyone for your comments and keeping me intellectually stimulated! Please introduce yourself if you ever see me at an event!
This will be my last post on AZ for a little while, it can be addictive! I will keep reading comments and PM's though!
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Butterfly
Emily Duddy
A long road to greatness...
I started this post in connection to someone else's post on a match from September as "my speed". I posted this match to show one that was more recent for those interested and I talked about the ways in which I've been trying to improve after learning from that match (which some people might find helpful). I was also looking for more constructive critisim, I feel like I definitely found some in this thread and I really appreciate it!
I am not saying that I am at the level of the top players yet, NEVER have I said that. I refer to myself as a great player because in my definition of that term I am and everyone is entitled to define things differently for themselves. I take no offense if you don't think I'm great, nor do I care. I am currently an exempt touring professional ranked 20th on the WPBA which by some standards (and currently the only's women's professional tour in America) would define me as a female professional player. I am ranked 8th amongst women professionals in the US (of course only those in the WPBA rankings) and have represented our country in 2 world championships. At this current time you have very few female US players amongst the best in the world and even less that can afford or have the desire to travel internationally. In each world championship you may have only 1,2 or 3 US players and frankly as an American I am always rooting for them because they need it and deserve it.
American players are currently the underdogs because we are going against players that have support from their country, their government and their culture. Many players at the Amway Cup had their coaches there, had everything paid for and only play pool for a living. I work 40-50 hour work weeks to pay for travel & entries, squeeze in practice 3-4 days a week, work with a coach one day a week, play in a straight pool league, captain a BCA 9 ball team and sleep and have a life when possible.
For me Allison, Kelly, Jasmin, Ga Young, Karen and countless Asian champions are beyond great. They are champions, accomplished & renowned. I consider them so much more than "great players".
I have come a long way and I still have a long road to reach the caliber of all these amazing women, most of whom I am friends with and whom I have the highest level of respect for.
I believe that the US culture will evolve into a more supportive place for Billiards and its players one day. I will do my best to help the progress as well. Thank you everyone for your comments and keeping me intellectually stimulated! Please introduce yourself if you ever see me at an event!
This will be my last post on AZ for a little while, it can be addictive! I will keep reading comments and PM's though!
I started this post in connection to someone else's post on a match from September as "my speed". I posted this match to show one that was more recent for those interested and I talked about the ways in which I've been trying to improve after learning from that match (which some people might find helpful). I was also looking for more constructive critisim, I feel like I definitely found some in this thread and I really appreciate it!
I am not saying that I am at the level of the top players yet, NEVER have I said that. I refer to myself as a great player because in my definition of that term I am and everyone is entitled to define things differently for themselves. I take no offense if you don't think I'm great, nor do I care. I am currently an exempt touring professional ranked 20th on the WPBA which by some standards (and currently the only's women's professional tour in America) would define me as a female professional player. I am ranked 8th amongst women professionals in the US (of course only those in the WPBA rankings) and have represented our country in 2 world championships. At this current time you have very few female US players amongst the best in the world and even less that can afford or have the desire to travel internationally. In each world championship you may have only 1,2 or 3 US players and frankly as an American I am always rooting for them because they need it and deserve it.
American players are currently the underdogs because we are going against players that have support from their country, their government and their culture. Many players at the Amway Cup had their coaches there, had everything paid for and only play pool for a living. I work 40-50 hour work weeks to pay for travel & entries, squeeze in practice 3-4 days a week, work with a coach one day a week, play in a straight pool league, captain a BCA 9 ball team and sleep and have a life when possible.
For me Allison, Kelly, Jasmin, Ga Young, Karen and countless Asian champions are beyond great. They are champions, accomplished & renowned. I consider them so much more than "great players".
I have come a long way and I still have a long road to reach the caliber of all these amazing women, most of whom I am friends with and whom I have the highest level of respect for.
I believe that the US culture will evolve into a more supportive place for Billiards and its players one day. I will do my best to help the progress as well. Thank you everyone for your comments and keeping me intellectually stimulated! Please introduce yourself if you ever see me at an event!
This will be my last post on AZ for a little while, it can be addictive! I will keep reading comments and PM's though!
You're seeing a slippery slope where none exists.
And btw, when you first joined and thought the forum was a great place, I was already here. I'm glad you feel better after venting, but if you take this thread in context with the other threads re ED, I think you would find 3 categories of posters: the nuthuggers, the genuine haters, and the people who read the claims to greatness, evaluated her speed, and walked away unimpressed. Try not to confuse the three. I certainly never made derogatory remarks re her looks or dress, and I do find that somewhat in bad taste (and irrelevant to whether she can play or not).
-roger
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I'm confused as hell (not to mention sorely disappointed). Emily, you started this thread basically ASKING for criticism (no matter how harsh) from the ONE single video link you posted. If you wanted us to offer advice/criticism on more than one video, you should have posted more than one video. I have watched three videos of your playing and offered what I think to be honest, constructive criticism, just like YOU asked for. Now, I feel like I am one of the persons that you and some other posters here are attacking with names like "hater", "nit", and other terms of not-so-endearment. I am sorry I even posted on this thread now. Damnit, I feel like I was set-up to be lambasted by those who feel like you cannot fight your own battles, and need to come to your defense. I do not know you. I only know that you exist. I have only seen you play via three video links. You play pretty good. You would beat me more times than not. I am a "C" player on a good day and have never, ever talked-up my game. I just thought I was doing what you wanted when I posted constructive criticism. I feel betrayed.
Good luck to you. I know you have the desire, dedication, and determination it takes to get to the next level. I hope you get there and see the fruits of your labor!!!
Maniac (no hard feelings!!!)
I obviously can't speak for everyone, Maniac, but I don't recall you offering anything other than constructive criticism (I didn't go back and check). I'm sure someone will point it out if I'm wrong, but I think you're OK.
The only heavy breathing from me is when your momma shows up to kiss me goodnight :thumbup: Cause ya know, I'm a nut hugger and all
I see I've brought a gun to a knife fight.
Dave, just for the record: I am not offended in the least. Please do not delete/close this thread on account of RJ's juvenile comeback.
-roger
Exactly, you started it with your little juvenile jabs about insinuating I was a a pervert for defeding Emily, and NOW your offended that I responded in kind...
And then you ask the moderator (by first name no less) to NOT close a thread that you have already derailed... you're some piece of work.
And yes, next time bring your A game, cause I'm just warming up.. I'm usually not "allowed" out of NPR, but for you I"m making a special exception since you turned this into a NPR type thread...
Oh, and btw.. what exactly did you offer to "help" her game... except act like a douche because she is NOT World Champion, and you're offended because she dared to "promote" herself and ask for some honest feedback... which she got from some folks... the rest of the pack was worried about her shoes and NOT being Allison Fischer (See Mr. Bond, I got that right now
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Wow, being insulted by another old troll who is most likely using another name after his 10th or 11th ban... way to go Pocket Point, or Slammer or whoever you were before... you've actaully managed to get a whole 59 posts without being banned with your new name... congrats sir, you've come a long way from troll status
You can see at 3:22 that it's going to go bad quickly when the combination was way overplayed, and then an incredibly basic shot was missed right after that.
She might have thought the applause was for her when she made the combo in all fairness. Even though that crowd was behind the curtain.
She might have thought the applause was for her when she made the combo in all fairness. Even though that crowd was behind the curtain.
I PM'd her about that. IMO she looks where she WANTS to get before she looks at the shot to see if she can get there without a ton of 'work'.
IMO she should look at the shot first & then 'see' where she can get that would be 'good' for the next shot.
I may be totally wrong. We are not in her mind.
I & some others are only trying to help.
Best Wishes Emily.
Regards,
Hey Creedo.... I havent read the past 3 pages of this shite thread but you still havent answered my ????? Do you play in events or are you strictly a railbird??? I mean from what Ive seen you a side line kinda guy. Nothing wrong with that but you still havent answered my ???
Its trouble to some to but to most its comfortable then so be it.... just looking for an answer...
Its trouble to some to but to most its comfortable then so be it.... just looking for an answer...
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