ever heard of an irving kaye pool table?
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I used to have a 6' Irving Kaye bar box, they were made in Brooklyn, NY.JOEY said:
Tracy
these tables play well? theyre tighter than a valley, but do they play as well, or better?? thanks for your help. whaddya think?? good deal, or no? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/spo/224336598.html
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> There used to be one at Bill McDaniel's shop before he got the GCIII put in,and there was one further up the street in The Hard Rack as well. Both of these were 7 footers,aesthetically they looked like a really nice black version of an old Valley,but kinda gothic and gives a sense of being "beefy",but before long 2 things would stand out about these tables. The rubber part of the rails didn't come to a nice rounded edge,but had a slightly higher profile,with about a 1/4 wide contact area that was rather squared off. Once you started hitting balls on the one at the pool room,you notice the other odd thing for a small table like this,remarkably tough but fair pockets. You could fire a ball in from any angle and at any speed,but you can pretty much rest assured that a ball that much more than brushes the rail more than 2" from the pockets will not fall with anything but slow roll speed. The pockets were probably 4 1/4,without being shimmed,had a fairly deep shelf,and the cut looked like a Diamond Pro tournament table. Overall,it played like a TIGHT tournament spec GC. I have no idea where this table is now,I just know it's not in that room any more. If the table you know about is in any kind of decent shape,it's worth what they want. If it plays like the one I'm describing,and was as nice as that one,you would be no better off with a 7 foot Smart Table,it's that good. Tommy D.
Mine was pretty old and wore out, but a good mechanic made it like new for me. It was no Brunswick by any stretch, but it was OK. Do you have a photo of the one you're talking about?JOEY said:
Tracy
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i posted a pic of it in my reply above this one. here it is.http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/spo/224336598.html
i posted a pic of it in my reply above this one. here it is.http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/spo/224336598.html
If a 7' is what you want, you could do worse. For 400, I'd say it looks like a good deal.JOEY said:
Tracy
i dont WANT a 7fter, but i dont have the room right now for anything bigger, and im building a house in a couple years, so this table is staying with this house. ill get my GCIV for the new house. quick question, if i could get a valley for $800-1000 and this table is only $400, which would you go with? i want a decent table that isnt going to play too much different that the valleys.
thanks again,
joey
thanks again,
joey
Is it close enough, that you could go check it out?JOEY said:
Tracy
It looks like a nice table. Is that Leather around the corners of the table?
I dont think you could hurt yourself by getting it. If you did not like it I am sure you could sell it for 400 fairly easily if not more.
I dont think you could hurt yourself by getting it. If you did not like it I am sure you could sell it for 400 fairly easily if not more.
Irving kaye
I grew up with one for years. My parents bought one for $125 in 1987. When I bought a house, we hauled it out of their basement and into my place. I ended up selling it about 6 months ago for $300 and bought my 9' Diamond Pro.
The table always seemed to play good. It stayed fairly level for a bar table. I thought my pockets played a little looser than the Valley's. I wouldn't say anything bad about them though. I grew up my whole life playing on one and it seems to be paying off nowadays.
I grew up with one for years. My parents bought one for $125 in 1987. When I bought a house, we hauled it out of their basement and into my place. I ended up selling it about 6 months ago for $300 and bought my 9' Diamond Pro.
The table always seemed to play good. It stayed fairly level for a bar table. I thought my pockets played a little looser than the Valley's. I wouldn't say anything bad about them though. I grew up my whole life playing on one and it seems to be paying off nowadays.
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I had one with lions heads at each corner and it had much tighter pockets than the average bar box. It was a great table, although I use to bump my thighs on the lions heads while working my way around the table. It actually hurt some times. Still a cool table. There are a few still around in bars here in Omaha.
I had one with lions heads at each corner and it had much tighter pockets than the average bar box. It was a great table, although I use to bump my thighs on the lions heads while working my way around the table. It actually hurt some times. Still a cool table. There are a few still around in bars here in Omaha.
JOEY said:
Sounds like your from Nebraska, were allot in that area, and they were cut tight. The only thing I didn't like about em was like the last poster said is the lions head stuck out and they hurt the leg, allot. You actually have to get up from every shot and step away from the table before you walk around to the next shot, also it may be difficult to get parts if thats a concern. They were the first real tight 7' I ever played on.
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They are very good classic pool tables,buy it at that price you wount be disapointed,n if ur u can surely sell it back to someone else!
I played on many of them...........
Hi there Joey,
My friend Mario Parrano in Minneapolis has one in his home. He put blue cloth on it and new rails. The pockets are real tight and you would swear you were playing on a Diamond.
I think this table was a little before it's time. Back then they all had big cue balls. You were really sunk if you didn't know how to move that big rock around.
I used to lick my chops when I saw one in a town when I was on the road. they always thought they would have the best of it but didn't find out until it was too late they had the worst of it a few dollars later.
I played one heck of a player named Sam Sotta on one in Benton, Ill at the 105 bar next to the tracks. But we played with the big rock. Everyone there thought Sam had the best of it. That was a good road trip......
My advice to anyone that wants a diamond like playing table for real cheap to buy one of these gems. Have someone that knows what they are doing put new rails on and good cloth and you'll be pretty happy for sure.
They sure are noisey when the balls go down the gutters inside.
Like I said, everytime I saw one I would just say to myself YES and just wait for someone to trap me real good.
Love them Irving Kayes
Hi there Joey,
My friend Mario Parrano in Minneapolis has one in his home. He put blue cloth on it and new rails. The pockets are real tight and you would swear you were playing on a Diamond.
I think this table was a little before it's time. Back then they all had big cue balls. You were really sunk if you didn't know how to move that big rock around.
I used to lick my chops when I saw one in a town when I was on the road. they always thought they would have the best of it but didn't find out until it was too late they had the worst of it a few dollars later.
I played one heck of a player named Sam Sotta on one in Benton, Ill at the 105 bar next to the tracks. But we played with the big rock. Everyone there thought Sam had the best of it. That was a good road trip......
My advice to anyone that wants a diamond like playing table for real cheap to buy one of these gems. Have someone that knows what they are doing put new rails on and good cloth and you'll be pretty happy for sure.
They sure are noisey when the balls go down the gutters inside.
Like I said, everytime I saw one I would just say to myself YES and just wait for someone to trap me real good.
Love them Irving Kayes