yep. inside shortens, outside opens.
Expensive tips are such hype - a video!
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yep. inside shortens, outside opens.
...you forgot Wives...
I'm not sure if you knew it but Confucius was a pool player, I'm going with him on this one:
"Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without".
Not that price equals quality, but why not play with the best available? Really? $30-$40? Squeeze open that wallet, its really not a big deal.
I would agree with the premise of the OP. The tip has very, very little affect on vertical or side spin. I believe the primary differences in tips is 1) How well they hold their shape; 2) How well they retain a consistent hardness over the life of the tip; 3) How well they avoid glazing; and 4) How they feel. FWIW, I've used a number of different types of tips and found the Ki-Tech clearly perform 1, 2 and 3 better than any I've used, by far (my previous favorite tips were Kamui Black and Ultra Skins). I like the feel of the Ki-Tech as well. Ki-Tech isn't the cheapest but very reasonable compared to Kamui and even more reasonable when you consider the performance.
as said before..the tip is not faulty, the glue is..and to me this proves nothing.....most people on this forum can draw a ball with a loose tip or even a phenolic tip....the main reason why people buy certain tips imo is for the feel they get with it....i dont see this changing anyones opinion on which tip to buy when considering price....
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lol +1...............
I use laminted tips for two reasons, a hit that i am used to, and they last longer so i dont have to change them as often.....
i liked le pro's after they have played for a while, problem for me was changing them about 2 weeks after i got them where i liked (really wouldnt want to go back to that, ill just pay the extra for something that lasts alot longer)
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They are .
Please sell me your old Moori Mediums.
Even just the Moori III'.s
Please sell me your old Moori Mediums.
Even just the Moori III'.s
after carefully studying the OP's photo I have concluded this tip debate is just hanging by a thread.
As far as tips go if you can play the tip doesn't matter a whole lot
If you can't play a $1.00 or $20.00 tip isn't going to change the fact that you can't play.
I know a guy that ran over a 100 balls in the early '60s with a house cue and what ever tip they put on it.
As far as tips go if you can play the tip doesn't matter a whole lot
If you can't play a $1.00 or $20.00 tip isn't going to change the fact that you can't play.
I know a guy that ran over a 100 balls in the early '60s with a house cue and what ever tip they put on it.
Ummmmmm…..
Tip falling off
It really looks like the installer didn't prime the tip well enough.
Here a few months a go I had bottle of glue get old and go bad, had 2 or 3 tips fall off.
The only thing I can do is replace the tip for the customer for free a try to keep my glue fresh by keeping it cool and move on.
I here of cue repair guys say they never had a tip pop off, I sure cannot say that.
And I am very careful when I replace a tip.........but I do have my failures.
I have also had allot of problems with sniper tips delaminating.
But over all I prefer layered tips the best.
I like a triangle tip too but I have to scuff it allot and focus more on where I hit the CB.
It really looks like the installer didn't prime the tip well enough.
Here a few months a go I had bottle of glue get old and go bad, had 2 or 3 tips fall off.
The only thing I can do is replace the tip for the customer for free a try to keep my glue fresh by keeping it cool and move on.
I here of cue repair guys say they never had a tip pop off, I sure cannot say that.
And I am very careful when I replace a tip.........but I do have my failures.
I have also had allot of problems with sniper tips delaminating.
But over all I prefer layered tips the best.
I like a triangle tip too but I have to scuff it allot and focus more on where I hit the CB.
Buying and trying different equipment, Tips, etc, is just part of the deal.
I stock, Elk Master, Triangle and Le Pro tips. People can play a great game using them.
There are a lot of very decent layered tips available that are not out there in price too.
California layered tips can be purchased for 50 cents each. Wizard tips are a great tip as is Talisman.
Lets not forget Ultra Skins, the new Ki Techs and Dawgs Duds. None are over priced.
You don't have to spend 50 bucks on a black tip with a clear pad on the bottom to get your game up to speed.
But, just for turning the lathe on, glue, sand paper etc, I will charge $15 to install a basic one layer tip.
20 to 25 for the next level and 30 to 35 for the next. My customers also get a 10 to 15 dollar shaft clean/wax, as part of the tip deal, no matter what tip is installed.
So, spending $35 at my shop isn't that bad a deal in the long run. But, Kamui is one tip that I don't or won't keep on hand.
I stock, Elk Master, Triangle and Le Pro tips. People can play a great game using them.
There are a lot of very decent layered tips available that are not out there in price too.
California layered tips can be purchased for 50 cents each. Wizard tips are a great tip as is Talisman.
Lets not forget Ultra Skins, the new Ki Techs and Dawgs Duds. None are over priced.
You don't have to spend 50 bucks on a black tip with a clear pad on the bottom to get your game up to speed.
But, just for turning the lathe on, glue, sand paper etc, I will charge $15 to install a basic one layer tip.
20 to 25 for the next level and 30 to 35 for the next. My customers also get a 10 to 15 dollar shaft clean/wax, as part of the tip deal, no matter what tip is installed.
So, spending $35 at my shop isn't that bad a deal in the long run. But, Kamui is one tip that I don't or won't keep on hand.
threads like this ..is like beating a dead horse
may as well start a thread on why a cheaper leather wrap is better than an expensive leather wrap ...or why a SS joint and wood joint is superior to an ivory joint ....or why pay extra for veneers and inlays when it can just be a plain jane for $x? less
...**people use what people like**..
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may as well start a thread on why a cheaper leather wrap is better than an expensive leather wrap ...or why a SS joint and wood joint is superior to an ivory joint ....or why pay extra for veneers and inlays when it can just be a plain jane for $x? less
...**people use what people like**..
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Sorry.
I just found it hilarious that a failed tip (Yes, the backing ripped in half, not just glue failure) could still play fine. I love that sharing that fact caused all kinds of speculation
I'm still going to giggle and everyone else will wreck me. C'est last vie or something.
I just found it hilarious that a failed tip (Yes, the backing ripped in half, not just glue failure) could still play fine. I love that sharing that fact caused all kinds of speculation
I'm still going to giggle and everyone else will wreck me. C'est last vie or something.
Apparently the OP thinks he has a point to make which obviously escapes so many readers, including myself. Nonetheless, presuming there is one,
it's pretty worthless in terms of learning something....anything....about cue tips, but we did learn he's pretty awful at writing non sequitor posts on AZ.
Matt B.
it's pretty worthless in terms of learning something....anything....about cue tips, but we did learn he's pretty awful at writing non sequitor posts on AZ.
Matt B.
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Please tell me you are joking? PLEASE...
I get it buddy...really, I GET IT... LOL! (Your one fan)Sorry.
I just found it hilarious that a failed tip (Yes, the backing ripped in half, not just glue failure) could still play fine. I love that sharing that fact caused all kinds of speculation
I'm still going to giggle and everyone else will wreck me. C'est last vie or something.
But to be fair, Matt Basterson, I believe that 99.9% of your long winded speeches on AZ would fall into the same category.
Sorry.
I just found it hilarious that a failed tip (Yes, the backing ripped in half, not just glue failure) could still play fine. I love that sharing that fact caused all kinds of speculation
I'm still going to giggle and everyone else will wreck me. C'est last vie or something.
If you think it plays fine like that I assume you're not going to change it?
Here is my tip currently:
The tip failed after beating the crap out of it. Hundreds of hours on here, no complaints. An old Chandivert Crown, nothing fancy at all.
Here is a link to video of me stroking with this floppy tip:
http://youtu.be/C8Jbrden6vU
(Yes, I missed the bank trying to show more inside off the rail. TOI banks work when you need to open them up!)
All I have to say after experiencing this is that I will giggle at anyone spending more than a few bucks on a tip because "it spins the ball better". I will take another video when I have a moment to see if I can get some crazy juice without the tip flying off.
TL;dr - expensive tips are for vanity
What in the world did you do to the side of this tip? Looks like your dog chewed on it!
Fuzzy picture
It looks like the ferrule is not flush with the tenon.
The picture isn't in focus but the ferrule might be loose.
It looks like the ferrule is not flush with the tenon.
The picture isn't in focus but the ferrule might be loose.