Fact or Fiction about Packages

dirtypool40 said:
Around 1991 Dennis Hatch is rampaging through the FL Tour, again...

He's in the Finals of an event, against former World All Around Champ Steve Cook.

Cook is cruising, Dennis is struggling. Cook gets to the hill 10-3 and breaks dry. Poor Steve never got to shoot again.

Dennis got up out of his funk, stuck 10-3, tired, in the wee hours of the morning after playing all weekend and puts up an 8.

Pretty Solid. ;)

Jay Flowers used to offer you the field if he got Dennis, even money to win the tournament.
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I witnessed that one, too. Wasn't that at C.M.'s place? To sweeten the story a bit, when Dennis came to the table after Steve's dry break he loudly announced, "I'm out!" And it soon became obvious that he didn't mean just that first rack.

Roger
 
Sorry I don't know the kids name, but my first time at the BCA in Vegas, I came out of my match to see a crowd watching King Kong playing some young kid about 23. They were playing race to 13 barbox 9-ball. King Kong was up 12 - 1 in this particular set, and the word was they were playing for 10 large. The kid put a 12 pack on after King Kong scratched on the break. It was the sickest thing I'd ever seen to that point.

King Kong immediately flipped and they did it again. The kid ran out the first rack and then scratched in the following rack, making 3 balls including the 9.

So I guess 13 was his run.

This was the first year the diamond smart tables were used at the BCA in Vegas, 2004 or so??
 
Roger Long said:
I witnessed that one, too. Wasn't that at C.M.'s place? To sweeten the story a bit, when Dennis came to the table after Steve's dry break he loudly announced, "I'm out!" And it soon became obvious that he didn't mean just that first rack.

Roger
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You know I think it was. I only read about it in "SNAP" magazine, in fact I may have that issue somewhere.
 
In 9 ball on a bar table, the most I have witnessed is 9 - once by Andy Quinn vs Mark Wilson in the finals of a tournament in Cahokia Il and once by Lil Ricky Van Uum @ a tournament in Olathe, KS.

I heard once that Dennis Searing ran 21 racks of 8 ball on a bar table.
 
Aaron_S said:
I do have an interesting note on this subject, however. At the players meeting for this year's DCC 9-ball event, it was mentioned that there was a rule in place that would prevent a player from losing a match without ever getting to shoot. If you lose the lag, and subsequently watch your opponent run 7 racks and out, the match is not over. You get to break the 8th rack, and have one opportunity to match the feat, after which, IIRC, there would be a second lag and a one-game tie breaker. It was also announced that the rule had never been needed, as no player had yet ran 7 and out from the lag in the 10-year history of the event. I found this very interesting, since the tournament draws hundreds of the best players in the world, and those Diamonds just don't play all that tough with brand new 860 on them.

Aaron
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I saw Jack Hines run 7 and out from the flip in a tournament in Louisville around 1991.

I ran 6 and out in a race to 7 down 2 to 1 on a table with 3 7/8" pockets (not a tournament match).
 
Didn't Marlon Manalo run a 10 pack followed by a 11 pack in the WPC a few years ago? The most i've witnessed in the flesh is a 5 pack on a 9 foot table, and that was by me! :thumbup:
 
I had Richie Richeson 6-0 going to 7 at Planet 9 ball about 6 or 7 years ago. He put a 7 pack on me for the win on a 9-footer. Johnnyt
 
I don't think you see the large number of B&R's that you did before so many tournaments and poolrooms got the Diamonds with the pro-cut pockets. Johnnyt
 
I've been told 3 times by tournament opponents that I ran a 7 on them. The first was by Paul Potier and I am confident it was true. The other two I have no idea.

I ran 5 racks in 10 ball against Efren if you count the first one from the 1 ball.

I ran 7 racks of 9 ball from the break on 3 and 7/8 pockets practicing, missed an easy ball in the next rack, then immediately broke and ran another six.

All on big tables.
 
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A friend, Bobby S, and I had been working brutally hard all day. Filthy and greasy we stopped at a bar to have a beer. Went to play a little pool and some guys wanted to play partners eight ball for a beer on the eight foot table. One of them broke dry and Bobby ran that rack. He ran seven more on his break before I had to get up. This was from the very first time he swung a stick that day playing with a piece of real crap off of the wall.

I don't have a clue what my own high run is. It just wasn't something I tried to do or kept count of. Not very high though, I was almost always looking for an "accidental" safety.

Hu

PS: I took Bobby on some short road trips right after this. He was almost as big a flake as Vincent and a pool playing son of a gun. Good money and great times.
 
I remember reading that Richie Orem put a 9 on Tommy Kennedy. Won the flip and ran out. I saw Richie later on in the year and asked him about that. He said there was some good rolls in that set but no 9s on the break. Thats pretty amazing feat in a finals of a regional event.
 
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I played Ryan McCreesh at a tourney in VA. He won the lag, broke, missed the one. I made the one, missed the three. He made the three, missed the four and left me hooked. I hit it, he ran out. Next time I took a shot, it was 8-0 (so a 7-pack :)). 9 ft. Diamond, rack your own, and he was using a soft break.
 
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iba7467 said:
Did you actually witness both of these?
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Regarding Ralf's run in 8-ball. He told me this while me, him, his wife and Tony Drago had lunch during a tournament in Sweden.

When Ralf says it himself, it's true.

He also said that the run ended becaues he got bad contact on a ball that he pocketed, which led to a difficult position on the 8-ball in rack 28.
 
In the mid 70's I saw Waterdog run 9 racks on a 9ft table. The best part was that he matched up with this guy, won the coin toss, ran the 9 pack and this player threw the money on the table and screamed, "I quit". Waterdog looked up and said, "Oh yeah, I forgot we were playing". If you knew Waterdog you know he was being honest when he said that.
 
Witnessed 11 racks of 9 ball in Carbondale early 80's and a trusted friend of mine told me he ran 13 racks 9 ball prior to quiting pool to concentrate on 3Cushion. Believe that was in his Peoria, IL days in Don Tozers' room.
Hollywood Fats - Harry Sims was the name.

Goes to show you, there's always a faster gun just around the corner.

By the way it was verified to me he really did run the 13.
 
PoolBum said:
I saw Jack Hines run 7 and out from the flip in a tournament in Louisville around 1991.

I ran 6 and out in a race to 7 down 2 to 1 on a table with 3 7/8" pockets (not a tournament match).
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Exactly. It's not that uncommon, but for some reason it just hasn't happened yet at the Derby. I don't have a good explanation for it, except perhaps that most of the players who are likely to do it are playing a bit more conservatively in that tournament since the tables are a bit snug and the races are so short.

Aaron
 
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I once broke the rack, missed the first shot, and went to the bar and ran a 6 pack...does that count?
 
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