Fargo rating
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The site is temperamental...
Sometimes I login, do a player search and get a result... and it vanishes quickly.
Entering the name again, it appears and it is random how long it stays on screen.
I can't remember where I saw it, maybe Facebook, but I recall them saying all their development work was on the App these days and no more work on the website.
So, if they are doing database, query changes etc in the App, then the website will continue to degrade.
I just use the App, for quick lookup work.
For bigger tournaments, I put up with the website... it is a pain though.
For those interested, the chart and supporting info can be found here:
I've got the same thing going on. App works fine but the site on my PC says I can't log in. Was tempted to just do a "lost password" reset and see if that works but didn't get around to doing it yet.
Fargo responded to a help request through email and told me to just use the app.
What is considered the highest ceiling for an amateur player in the fargo rating system? Some of the tours in the area are moving to fargo rating in the future and i would love to know in case i wish to do another tournament.
Besides that, fargo rating is mainly for 9 ball is it not? Or can the numbers be applied to games like 8 ball and straight pool?
I'm debating using FargoRating or Rankade going forward.
Besides that, fargo rating is mainly for 9 ball is it not? Or can the numbers be applied to games like 8 ball and straight pool?
I'm debating using FargoRating or Rankade going forward.
Completely subjective. Fargo is just a number assigned to player based on their average performance. How someone utilizes the value of the number is up to the individual. From what I've seen locally. The majority of tournaments use something along the lines of 640-650 as a cap. That doesn't mean >650 is pro (not amatuer), but players above that 650 tend to scare off the majority (<650). Pool rooms wants volume so they set a bar that caters to generating revenue. Generally speaking..., the higher the rating the more serious the player. Serious players generally are out to win and won't partake in boozing it up during the day.
>650 are typically regulated to playing in Open events, which of course allows actual pros. IMHO, (which means nothing) >750 is a pro. To carry a number that high you need to put some seriously intense work into your game and maintain.
I've never heard of Fargo being applied or used to gauge 14.1 ability. The data is entered on a how many 'rack vs rack' score. That doesn't really work with 14.1
You could use a fargo rating to get a sense of a player's ability but 14.1 is more about table IQ then potting ability and successful safe play imo.
Still no Fargo, just AZ Rating.
Fargo gives pretty much overall pool playing ability at any game, with some exceptions. I don't think it's possible to reach any level of play to say 700 or higher without being at least reasonably good at 14.1 or one pocket or banks, even if one does not specialize in those games. You just need too much skill and knowledge to get to a strong 8 ball or 9 or 10 ball player to be actually bad at the other games. Yes there are like 20 players on the planet that are great at one pocket or 14.1 or banks that would beat a much stronger 9 or 10 ball player at their specialty games, but those are very rare compared to the general pool population. No one can cay SVB or Filler are one pocket specialists, yet they still win tournaments in that game.
One can be say a 600 in Fargo but not have any 14.1 high runs past like 30 due to just not ever playing the game, same thing for one pocket, but once you start to get to the higher levels that gap narrows. I never play one pocket, but as a 550ish Fargo I have beaten other players in my skill range that do play one pocket way more than I do, and don't look like an idiot even in games I lose. Fargo is good enough to get at least close to the level of a player in pretty much all of the more common pool games, and the higher the Fargo rating the better chances it will have of the player being close to the same skill level in any game. For example, 770+ players would be running 50-100 balls in 14.1 fairly regularly even if they play that game like once a month.
I just re-joined with the exact same email and password. Lost my favorites, but I can log in again.
Agreed... Myself for example only took up 14.1 because of being stuck in my home during the lockdowns. I had never really paid attention to the game prior but with ~680 potting ability I was able to breach 60 several times and busted through the 100 barrier twice in relatively short order. I've been lead to believe there are students of the game that have spent years never reaching triple digits.
It wasn't my knowledge of 14.1 that allowed me to do so. Just raw potting ability, which is relative to fargo rating.
I think once you start speaking of players in the range of 'shortstop' spd. It really doesn't matter what the game is and/or their prior experience with it. Provide them the rules and goal, and maybe about an hour or so if it's real wacky.
My. Fargo is Zero, do I care no. Fook Fargo.
GENIUS you must care as you pollute most Fargo threads.My. Fargo is Zero, do I care no. Fook Fargo.
That's what I figured but I guess my question was geared more towards the amateur side of things but even then your answer gave me enough to know how I should approach directing tournaments in the future when using these numbers.
I'm not sure.
Judd Trump is a great shooter, and did a credible job playing 9-ball, but wasn't anywhere near his capabilities in snooker. In the same way Corey Deuell or Alex Pagulayan didn't perform to scale when they tried Q-school in snooker.
Thinking about these three players where we have video, I think the performance is some combination of shooting, cue-ball control, strategy and tactics, and luck. All these players are great shooters and have great cue-ball control, so I've assumed the difference is knowledge of strategy and tactics. I don't have any sense for how long it would take Trump to get to a top-16 professional level in 9-ball, assuming he even wanted to. But i suspect it might take a year or two.
I don't know enough to have a good feel for this.
Are there excellent 9-ball players that aren't so good at 8-ball? Or vice versa?
You truly are clueless. Fargo is used all over the US and in other foreign locales. Need to get out of that retirement home sometimes. FargoRate is not going away any time soon.
Wel that is what was said about the AZ Rating System, it was another system to try, and seperate player skills. It went away.