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What is you favorite, and why?
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What is you favorite, and why?
Favorite Joint Material, on a Cue, and Why
- Thread starter CocoboloCowboy
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Stag and phenolic.
Mine
1st choice Solid piloted Stainless Steel because it is durable, looks good and plays good.
2nd choice Solid piloted Ivory joint because it looks good and plays good.
3rd choice Flat faced phenolic joint.
I have no real reason maybe other than looks but I really dislike cues with the sleeved on type of steel, ivory or phenolic joints.
In addition I also really hate the looks of the deer antler, stag or other horn material that make the cue look like the joint has sanding dust finished within the joint material. It makes the joint and or butt cap look dirty. I hate dirty.
Kevin
1st choice Solid piloted Stainless Steel because it is durable, looks good and plays good.
2nd choice Solid piloted Ivory joint because it looks good and plays good.
3rd choice Flat faced phenolic joint.
I have no real reason maybe other than looks but I really dislike cues with the sleeved on type of steel, ivory or phenolic joints.
In addition I also really hate the looks of the deer antler, stag or other horn material that make the cue look like the joint has sanding dust finished within the joint material. It makes the joint and or butt cap look dirty. I hate dirty.
Kevin
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Why waste it on a cue?
Why would you put joint material on a cue??? roll it and smoke it, sheesh.
On topic, I "thought" that I would much rather play with a non-metal joint (as in my Samsara) but after my Joss got fixed up, I really don't have much of a prefference. The hit feel is different but still a "good" hit. In fact, after playing with the piloted metal joint, going back to the Samsara felt a bit weird.
Why would you put joint material on a cue??? roll it and smoke it, sheesh.
On topic, I "thought" that I would much rather play with a non-metal joint (as in my Samsara) but after my Joss got fixed up, I really don't have much of a prefference. The hit feel is different but still a "good" hit. In fact, after playing with the piloted metal joint, going back to the Samsara felt a bit weird.
Forgot to mention Wood to Wood.
ivory, or phenolic the synthetic ivory i've tried seemed to soften the hit too much and the ss joints seem to take a lot of the feel away.
CocoboloCowboy said:
I have a confession to make. My main playing cue has an ivory joint, actually a shorter-than-normal wood to wood joint with an ivory collar. I also like SS joints. However, from a hit and playability standpoint, I honestly think that nothing matches a wood to wood joint with a large pin and a phenolic collar.
I have also espoused ivory ferrules, but after comparing about 15 cues I'm changing my preferrence. I think LBM hits the best.
It's all relative to the shaft taper, the tip itself, the ferrule, and even the woods, but I'm calling Jeff Olney right now to tell him that his standard equipment has the best hit. That is, a wood to wood joint with a 3/8 X 10 pin and a phenolic collar, with a LBM ferrule and a Moori Medium. I also tried the same combo with an ivory ferrule and old growth wood. His standard LBM ferrule outplayed it IMHO...Tom
This is going to sound silly but I gotta go with a steel piloted joint. When I first started playing the cue I used had plastic joint collars. All the really good players in the room I played at had high end cues like Joss West, Richard Black, Paul Mottey, etc.... with those shiny steel joints. I don't know why but that steel joint really appealed to me.............as did the delrin butt cap. Steel joints and delrin butt caps are the ones for me.
MULLY
MULLY
I am a big fan of elk, stag and ivory...
My current cue is a flat-faced elkhorn.
My current cue is a flat-faced elkhorn.
mullyman said:
Now that is a perfect example of personal opinion and preference in cue materials, and joints in particular. I have a JossWest with a SS piloted joint. I bought it 25+ years ago. Bill Stroud has maintained it and it still plays great, but I now prefer wood to wood with a phenolic collar or something similar. Large pins like 3/8 X 10, 3/8 X 11, Radials etc. also really help the playability too IMHO.
Back in the day by the way, the really high end cues had ivory joints and ferrules. The SS joints were the entry level cues...Tom
http://forums.azbilliards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47316&d=1185595449
Something Like this, we now use a white phenolic with a wood to wood pilot, any big pin really, we use most.
To answer question: White Phenolic like: Ivorine is my favorite, using some moose, and stag horn on afew cues that should be done soon and some Ivory joints as well.
Go ahead Joeyincali, do it, ask
White Phenolic? does it exist?
Until a better name comes out, white phenolic it is.
Bryan Fisher
Fisher Cues
Something Like this, we now use a white phenolic with a wood to wood pilot, any big pin really, we use most.
To answer question: White Phenolic like: Ivorine is my favorite, using some moose, and stag horn on afew cues that should be done soon and some Ivory joints as well.
Go ahead Joeyincali, do it, ask
White Phenolic? does it exist?
Until a better name comes out, white phenolic it is.
Bryan Fisher
Fisher Cues
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Used to have a stainless steel jointed cue. Also had a brass jointed cue. Nice enough.
THEN, I had a cue with a wood to phenolic joint. WOW!
NOW, my fav for playing the game is a wood to wood joint, although I do like the wood to phenolic joint best for breaking with. I think it's due to more of a mental opinion than a hit difference, though.
THEN, I had a cue with a wood to phenolic joint. WOW!
NOW, my fav for playing the game is a wood to wood joint, although I do like the wood to phenolic joint best for breaking with. I think it's due to more of a mental opinion than a hit difference, though.
