First time you got your butt kicked...

Donny Lutz

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We all have that memory of the first time we had our ego crushed by getting our butt kicked. When was yours?
Mine was in 1963. Though pool was my "second" sport, I thought I was pretty good, winning a few bucks from the rum dums. Then a 16-year-old kid named Mike Haggerty took my entire paycheck ($65) playing 9-ball at Sheldon's Cigar Store. Mike went on to become a great player, - we played on several championship teams 20 years later...

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
 
Circa 1995 in a Bar called Rockets in Dahlgren Virginia. They ran a handicapped 9 ball tourney on Wednesday nights. At that time I was playing 3 years, and getting better, playing with the local players. I draw a man named David Smith, Race to 5 I had all the breaks and the 4-9. I am thinking that I have the nuts here.

5 dry breaks, with Dave running each rack on my break later....... He told me that he doesn't mind the spot and gets more upset when someone breaks in the 9 ball.

I learned that I needed to work on my breakshot, and that there was a whole other world of players out there that I had no clue about.

By the way, David could play some, and he is a really nice guy.

http://www.tedharris.com/smith_25.htm
 
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Back in 57 at 16 I could walk into most bars and know I was going to make money on the bar box. I knew all the places that the best players hung out and avoided them like the clap. My Dad who before he got married was good enough to make a small-time living on the road kept telling me the way I thought my game was so great that I was easy picking for the right hustler coming through town. I would laugh and say I was too smart for that to happen.

One night my Dad and me walked in a bar that he went to often but me...not so much. About 5 minutes after we got there he told me to play this guy that was on the table. He said he would play $20 a game or more if I played it right. "Let him get ahead until you get the bet up high. He'll never quit till he's broke". I looked over and watched the guy play for a few minutes and watched him miss 3 balls. H looked about 50 wearing a cheap unepressed suit.

To make a long story short, I let him get ahead by a $100 at $20 a game and then asked if he would play for $40 a game. He said make it $50 a game. I came off the lemon right away, but so did he and beat me for another $300 before I hung up my cue. Weeks later a friend asked me if I knew who I played the other night at the Log Cabin. I said I had no idea. He said, "That was Ray Johnson, your fathers old road partner." My father had set me up to teach me a lesson and probably chopped my money up with Ray too. Johnnyt
 
I was 17 and could play pretty good.This is around 1964.
I went in to a room in Toms River NJ.I saw an older man playing by himself and he was pocketing balls pretty good so I figured he was a player.
Long story short he beat my brains out playing 9 ball.
Later I found out he was Joe Russo from Trenton NJ. He was a top player back in that era.
But back in those days I played anyone I did not know.
 
Back in 57 at 16 I could walk into most bars and know I was going to make money on the bar box. I knew all the places that the best players hung out and avoided them like the clap. My Dad who before he got married was good enough to make a small-time living on the road kept telling me the way I thought my game was so great that I was easy picking for the right hustler coming through town. I would laugh and say I was too smart for that to happen.

One night my Dad and me walked in a bar that he went to often but me...not so much. About 5 minutes after we got there he told me to play this guy that was on the table. He said he would play $20 a game or more if I played it right. "Let him get ahead until you get the bet up high. He'll never quit till he's broke". I looked over and watched the guy play for a few minutes and watched him miss 3 balls. H looked about 50 wearing a cheap unepressed suit.

To make a long story short, I let him get ahead by a $100 at $20 a game and then asked if he would play for $40 a game. He said make it $50 a game. I came off the lemon right away, but so did he and beat me for another $300 before I hung up my cue. Weeks later a friend asked me if I knew who I played the other night at the Log Cabin. I said I had no idea. He said, "That was Ray Johnson, your fathers old road partner." My father had set me up to teach me a lesson and probably chopped my money up with Ray too. Johnnyt

That's a great story, probably saved you thousands in the long run.
Leave it up to dad to deal you those hard lessons in life we all need.
 
It was a dark and stormy night, and I was hanging out in a poolroom in Mason City. I'd been working with a gypsy husking crew, and we were about to blow off a little steam after two hard weeks out in the hot, dusty cornfields of northern Iowa. I had just cashed my paycheck and was ready for action.
I spied a fellow over in a far corner, playing alone, on an antique looking five-by-ten. He was an older gentleman, with a slim build and white hair. I walked over and asked if he'd care to play some One Pocket.
"I wouldn't mind." He replied, in a slight southern drawl. "You from around here?
"No." I said. "Just passing through."
"Me, to." He said, with a small grin. "How does fifty a game sound?"
Just then a bolt of lightning struck a nearby tree, as the rain began to beat hard against the tin roof above us.
"Fine with me." I said, in a voice that sounded less confident than I would have wanted.
All that evening, and into the early morning hours, amid the crashing of the storm outside, we played like men possessed. I would go up three games, then down two. He would do the same. Finally I called for a break.
"Sounds like a good idea." He said, from his shadowy corner. "You rest a bit and we'll start up again in an hour."
I went over to the bar, ordered a shot of J. T. S. Brown, and sat down with my head resting in the crook of my arm. "Just a couple of minutes rest is all I need." I said to myself.
I must have dozed off because the next thing I remember the bartender was shaking my shoulder, saying. "Wake up young feller. I gotta close the place up."
"Yeah, sure." I said, as I groggily got to my feet. "Just let me finish this last game with the old guy over there in the corner."
"What old guy in the corner?" He asked. "The only thing over there is the juke box. And it don't work."
I looked across the room. Sure enough, the only thing I saw was a broken down Rockola and a small, dust-covered dance floor.
"What the hell is going on here?" I screamed. "I was over in that corner all night long playing One Pocket. The guy I was playing was older, had white hair, and talked like he was from the South." The bartender just stared at me. "Mister, you must have had a little too much to drink last night. We ain't had a pool table over in that corner in almost thirty years." He said.
"Come to think on it though, I do remember my pappy telling me there used to be an old five-by-ten footer that sat there, and every now and then a fella would come through town and play on it. He was up in years, just like you said, and had snow white hair. Pappy said he was a true southern gentleman. Now, what was his name? Oh yeah, Lassiter. That's it. Mr. Lassiter."
I shook my head, even though it hurt like hell, and walked out of the pool room into the bright, sunlit morning. At least the storm was over. :smile:
 
Back in 57 at 16 I could walk into most bars and know I was going to make money on the bar box. I knew all the places that the best players hung out and avoided them like the clap. My Dad who before he got married was good enough to make a small-time living on the road kept telling me the way I thought my game was so great that I was easy picking for the right hustler coming through town. I would laugh and say I was too smart for that to happen.

One night my Dad and me walked in a bar that he went to often but me...not so much. About 5 minutes after we got there he told me to play this guy that was on the table. He said he would play $20 a game or more if I played it right. "Let him get ahead until you get the bet up high. He'll never quit till he's broke". I looked over and watched the guy play for a few minutes and watched him miss 3 balls. H looked about 50 wearing a cheap unepressed suit.

To make a long story short, I let him get ahead by a $100 at $20 a game and then asked if he would play for $40 a game. He said make it $50 a game. I came off the lemon right away, but so did he and beat me for another $300 before I hung up my cue. Weeks later a friend asked me if I knew who I played the other night at the Log Cabin. I said I had no idea. He said, "That was Ray Johnson, your fathers old road partner." My father had set me up to teach me a lesson and probably chopped my money up with Ray too. Johnnyt

thats a great story
what a great dad:thumbup:
 
Back in the late 90s I went to a pool hall in Lawton, OK to meet up with a friend.

I get there, he points out a guy who is matched up playing, and his young friend who is waiting on him to finish who might be up for some action.

This guy who is waiting and I get to talking, we match up in nine ball, and I recognize quickly that I'm not going to come out well.....and I don't - badly.

After we're done in about a half hour I ask him what his name is......he tells me - "Corey Deuel, but don't tell anybody."

Back then I hadn't heard of him, but I start looking in the pool scene flyers (forget the name of them) they had around the pool halls / bars with the regional tournament standings and there he was in the top of most of them throughout the Midwest. And of course we all know how he turned out.

What's funny is I saw him at the US Open years later and he still remembered us playing......kind of cool.
 
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