Fixing the game of 9 ball.
- Thread starter realkingcobra
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Why bother with all the extra, the 1 ball is in the back row of the rack, good luck getting a shot on it, let alone running racks, because the 1's not heading up table to give you a starting shot to begin a run with!!
First of all, the 1 ball isn't going up table leaving you a beginning opening shot to play position on. It's more than likely going to be tied up around the foot of the table not giving you a clear shot to get started with, IF you even HAVE a clear shot on the 1 ball to even begin with....then what?
I’ve never seen 12 ball played- do people actually play it?
I have seen it played but I guess the answer is not many people and not very often. I have seen people try to beat the 12 ball ghost too, a tough game!
Hu
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
How about this, same rules as in the first post, but with some random chance thrown in.
Roll a single die. 1-4 is the position of the one ball in the back. A 5 gets the one ball in front of the rack, 6 gets the extra cue ball removed and racked as traditional 9 ball.
Roll a single die. 1-4 is the position of the one ball in the back. A 5 gets the one ball in front of the rack, 6 gets the extra cue ball removed and racked as traditional 9 ball.
Did you mean something like rotation or something I would call "full rack 9B". Rack all 15 balls then play 9B. Shoot the 1-9 only - whoever makes the 9 wins.
Rotation usually leaves some balls on the table. I am talking about using nine or ten ball rules, since we are talking about fixing nine ball I would say nine ball rules but put the full rack out there. Fifteen would be the money ball and running fifteen balls in order should be enough challenge to take care of too many break and runs.
Of course a suggestion bound to come up is to quit playing Texas Express and go back to playing nine ball. I think originally the whole goal of Texas Express was to speed things up for TV. Since we see so much pool on TV these days, I see little reason for Texas Express rules.
Hu
The game of 9ball can easily be fixed.
1- BAN jump cues short cues - allows jumps on regular cues.
2- BAN Magic/paper racks - use the triangle, wooden triangle rack like the old days - but let referee to rack & NO RACK CHECKS. (9Ball should always be random on each game! pattern & same layouts are friggin boring and kill the game).
3- Bring back the 80's 9ball rules, if foul on break you bring back the pocketed balls and play from the kitchen!
This is an exciting 9ball! Truly in the past ppl knew how to grow the game. However nowadays people know how to kill the game in a bad way
, with all the lame rules & PPV's which minimize the watching pool (viewership).
No game show antics
It is fun to speculate new rules. Has anyone here dedicated the hours playing under any of these "imagined rules" to find out what they mean and how they impact the game? Be careful. Nine-Ball possesses intangibles that make it attractive and exciting, and some would say down right addicting. A well-intended rule-change could ruin it.
Get rid of jump cues and go back to two-shot rollout rules.
Yup. And while your’e at it, get rid of the break-cues.
I totally agree with line 1,The game of 9ball can easily be fixed.
1- BAN jump cues short cues - allows jumps on regular cues.
2- BAN Magic/paper racks - use the triangle, wooden triangle rack like the old days - but let referee to rack & NO RACK CHECKS. (9Ball should always be random on each game! pattern & same layouts are friggin boring and kill the game).
3- Bring back the 80's 9ball rules, if foul on break you bring back the pocketed balls and play from the kitchen!
This is an exciting 9ball! Truly in the past ppl knew how to grow the game. However nowadays people know how to kill the game in a bad way
BUT when I think of the crowd the needs of the sport/spectators, the non player who creates that ''excitement'' of the moment when a successfully Up and Over occurs it's Better for the game in the long run.....only 9 ball.
The crowd quickly learns to appreciate a lock down safe and up and over.
Referee to work a 4 table grouping.
Each table loser will rack, referee will do a final inspection and tighten if necessary. Speeds up play.
Wooden racks, give the game a sound that's unique like bowling and it's alley sounds.
#3 The average mind has difficulty enjoying this aspect of play.
This rule will not increase viewership.
Slows down the video production.
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Do think that rule would speed up tournament play, or help slow them down even more?
Geosnookery
Well-known member
Nothing wrong with 95% of nine ball. The issue is at the top level and whether 9 ball, as it is, can be successfull as a professional sport. The answer is ‘no’.
I don’t want to say zero interest but few that I know in our billiard leagues follow professional American Pool. A half dozen might be able to name a Pool player and that would be Minnesota Fats.
American pool is fine. Minor tweaking is irrelevent at the league level and will accomplish zero at the spectator level. The games is just not conducive to watching instead of participating in. And this is fine. I also like to go fishing instead of watching someone else fish.
At pro level American Pool has lost out to the rise Chinese 8 ball. Chinese 8 ball piggy backed off of Snooker. It fostered the image of being a sport and not a bar game. Using snooker pockets tripled difficulty and adding whole layers of complexity.
I don’t want to say zero interest but few that I know in our billiard leagues follow professional American Pool. A half dozen might be able to name a Pool player and that would be Minnesota Fats.
American pool is fine. Minor tweaking is irrelevent at the league level and will accomplish zero at the spectator level. The games is just not conducive to watching instead of participating in. And this is fine. I also like to go fishing instead of watching someone else fish.
At pro level American Pool has lost out to the rise Chinese 8 ball. Chinese 8 ball piggy backed off of Snooker. It fostered the image of being a sport and not a bar game. Using snooker pockets tripled difficulty and adding whole layers of complexity.