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FlipVideo Ultra HD (yes, its pool related)
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Hey Nathan,No problem.
I did a fair amount of research on these two units recently, as I just purchased a Zi8 myself. I have two $5,000 camcorders, but they're massive. These little pocket cams are great for getting a camera into places where a real camcorder can't.
The Zi8 has *drastically* better sound than the Flip. It has sharper footage, better low-light capabilities, an external mic jack, and has the external SD slot. It can also shoot 720p60, which is nice feature.
The only downside is that the Zi8's footage is tinted slightly red, almost as if the color balance is off a bit. For me, I can easily correct this on my computer afterwords, so it's not really an issue.
If you Google the two, you'll find a ton of comparison reviews. I only saw one review that rated the Flip higher, and the guy clearly forgot to take note of the audio differences. Neither device can compare to the quality of a real digital camcorder, but they're still pretty remarkable relative to their size and cost.
Review:
http://gizmodo.com/5325151/kodak-zi8-wallops-flip-with-1080p-image-stabilizer-and-sd-slot
A Youtube clip filmed with the Zi8 of some cute Chinese Taipei girls at Hooters: (lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ln2EcGHPg
I have shot several videos with a flip and I liked it, but after buying and using a Zi8 I believe its the much better option for all the reasons you mention. The Zi8 has problems in 1080p with pixalating allot of motion but other than that I can't detect any major problems with it. Its the only pocket cam that records in 1080p. I made a video with my Zi8 and I was pleased with the result. One note to mac users: Macs won't run the bundled software with the Zi8 but if you have imovie and final cut who cares?
The video looks very clear. I think if it was mounted a little higher you would not get the glare on the cloth from the light.
For the price, I would say it's a great deal. I might have to get one of those for my house.
For the price, I would say it's a great deal. I might have to get one of those for my house.
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Oh great I went from not realizing I need a video camera, to seriously considering the zi8. My wallet hates you, nathandumoulin
same here..damn
not sure BUT
From what I read neither of those cameras has white balance and that glare in the middle of the table can only be taken out during editing ??? Something to consider
From what I read neither of those cameras has white balance and that glare in the middle of the table can only be taken out during editing ??? Something to consider
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The 'glare' is actually the hot spot from the light above the table, the same culprit that usually makes online streams look very 'amateur'. In order to avoid it, you need to use a softer more controlled light source.
Agreed, although the key here is the price. We're not talking $1000+ video cameras. We're talking budget consumer gear. If you need to white balance, than you probably shouldn't be shopping in the $150 price range.
As for that 'glare' again, you need to be pretty good to take that hot spot out in post (the editing phase). 99% of capable editors won't have sufficient skill to remove it.
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Wall Mounting
Can you mount these to a wall? Would be wonderful to do that at home to record matches.
Can you mount these to a wall? Would be wonderful to do that at home to record matches.
Thats what I was thinking...
If you had the camera at a higher vantage point, where the brightness from the table lights isnt pouring right into the lens, the image should look better.
Ill try that next time.
Im still learning
Also note that the lights they use at this pool hall are quite bright. Its to make up for the fixtures not being very condusive to properly lighting the table. They certainly are pretty, but not so good for actually playing pool.
I have a very short video taken at strokers and the image is much better.... There is little to no glare on the center of the table.. This is on Facebook, so im not sure if you all can view it w/o being my friend.
http://www.facebook.com/bryan.bartlett2?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=1354207650242
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This was shot with the normal Flip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SEJz7PujM
I'd like to have more features but there is also something liberating about a point-and-shoot video camera.
Mine has a regular camera mount and I do mount it on the tripod sometimes. As you can see here it makes a neat sort of pocket cam view.
I'd like to have more features but there is also something liberating about a point-and-shoot video camera.
Mine has a regular camera mount and I do mount it on the tripod sometimes. As you can see here it makes a neat sort of pocket cam view.
glare
At the very 1st tournament I streamed I used a very cheap webcam and took a sunglass lens and put over the lens and it took the glare away lol....
At the very 1st tournament I streamed I used a very cheap webcam and took a sunglass lens and put over the lens and it took the glare away lol....
At the very 1st tournament I streamed I used a very cheap webcam and took a sunglass lens and put over the lens and it took the glare away lol....
A sunglass lense? That's just a cheap Neutral Density Filter. It's the same as closing the iris a little.
It doesn't reduce the hot spot, but rather just lowers the global exposure level, resulting in a darker picture. Not the same thing at all.
But whatever works....well....works
