Follow through pictures, thoughts, etc.

[8ballEinstein]

OK with me to agree to disagree, but here's one more question:

I'm sure you've observed some players doing more with their strokes than others - so have I. But how did you observe that it involves longer contact time?

I mean, a normal amount of contact time is only 1 or 2 thousandths of a second, and you say that a 10% increase makes a difference in the outcome. Does that mean that you can tell by observation if a tip stays on the CB for 2.2 thousandths of a second instead of 2.0 thousandths?

I'm pretty sure I can't tell by observation if the tip stays on the ball 100% longer.

My point is, sure, we observe some players doing lots more with the CB than others, but what real evidence do we have that longer contact time is the reason? I think it's because that's the impression we get when we hit the CB better - but that's not an observation.

pj
chgo

Obviously you certainly can't accurately observe the time involved during tip contact. All you can do is come up with an interpretation of what you see. Because this is just my interpretation of what is happening, I'm willing to examine hard evidence that shows otherwse.

 

[dr_dave]

Because this is just my interpretation of what is happening, I'm willing to examine hard evidence that shows otherwse.

FYI, some "hard evidence" (numbers from actually high-speed-video measurements) can be found here:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue_tip.html#contact​

Be sure to also check out the links dealing with grip, acceleration, and follow through.

Regards,
Dave

 

[Mr. Wiggles]

Follow thru

I think it would be hard to video your follow, knowing that people are going to critique it, without exagerrating your follow thru to show what great follow thru you have. Needs to be taped in a real game on an average shot, preferably many different shots in a whole game. Stroke is such a personal thing. I'm old school, somewhat stand up shooter, and when I try to school brand new players I tell them to saw that stick like your sawing wood, keep it moving. But, heh, I see people who stop their stoke and pause when they get close to cue, I could never do that. But I am set in my ways. Most beautiful stroke ever seen was Norman Hitchcock(deceased) from Okla. He won a world 9-ball championship way back in the 60's or 70's. I believe. Anybody got any stories about Hitch?