Whenever I feel uncomfortable physically, back,neck or foot etc., I just want to get out of the stance as quickly as possible and jump up. Hard to control when you are hurting.
Follow through pictures, thoughts, etc.
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Whenever I feel uncomfortable physically, back,neck or foot etc., I just want to get out of the stance as quickly as possible and jump up. Hard to control when you are hurting.
Randy; In order for the cue ball to have the action the player intended to apply, the cue tip has to go straight-through HORIZONTALLY, if you apply 3:00 O'clock English to the cue ball the cue tip must finish at that horizontal level from the table bed, if the cue tip dipps this means you've applied a downward motion to the cue resulting in a little draw effect also on the cue ball. E.G. causing the cue ball to make a carom that was not intended. That's why the correct follow-through is vital!
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
your right
thats why i had david post thses pics(thanks buddy), i did hold the position for the second photograph and may have moved a bit. But my torso did move up. The elbow drop was after contact with the cue ball. the other flaw is the tip is .25"to the left from the starting point, its not straight like JA's stroke at the finish.A few month prior to this pic I was hitting them better and I wasnt comming up. I believe its due to my lower back being so ridigid I just come up. I shot this shot very hard and drilled to the back of the pocket. But the flaws in these pics are why I'm not a couple balls better.I'm clearly aware of that. I just wanted to see of the other posters here oticed that. My right foot is ok at end oF he stroke. The change of position in my meft leg was because I help the position for a few seconds and cause I raised up. What I dont know is why my bridge hand is back 2" from the first pic. I want to do this again when I'm instroke and see what the difference is. I was at about 50%-60% of my game when this was shot.
its amazing how such small details have such a huge effect on the level of play.
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i was shooting a stop shot real hard
yup, could be pain related.
please keep the comments comming, dont worry about hurting my feelings. the monent of pain is the moment of growth.
If the tip is traveling level when it makes contact with the cue ball, does it really matter if it dips after the tip and cue ball have separated?
Steve
If it doesn't matter than why are you and randy questioning it ?
Because the easiest way to make sure the cue is traveling at a level plane when it contacts the cue ball will also result in the tip angled down toward the table at the end of the stroke.
Steve
Steve; The longer the cue tip remains on the cue ball ,(extended follow-through), the more it sort of pushes the action onto the cue ball, instead of a nice clean sharp stroke, (not a punch), but with a perfect tempo and timing. Most Ultra Top 3 Cushion players all over the world are familiar with these techniques. It's the reason why some players have so called better strokes than others, timing, tempo and properly measured stroke!
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
P.S. These types of strokes and techniques are explained in more detail in my book and DVD, "The Concise Book of Position Play".
Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
Let me say that I am no way any kind of person that can give advice on proper stance etc. But as a bad back guy myself, sometimes I don't fight it. When I can't get down lower, I shoot with what I got. Also, if you look a photo's or video's of the older players, they all had a more upright stance. I have not problem with angles when I shoot "higher" but I do have issues with getting the cue ball where I want it.
Bob
Bob
With a legal stroke, nothing you do with your grip, cue acceleration, or follow-through can meaningfully affect the length of time the cue tip is in contact with the cue. For more info, see:
Now, the type of stroke, including what you do with the grip, cue acceleration, and elbow drop can have a big effect on the cue speed and tip position at contact, both of which are critically important.
Regards,
Dave
If you are shooting a legal shot, and not trying to push the cue ball, you aren't going to have the tip in contact with the cue ball for more than a couple thousandths of a second, no matter what you do.
Steve
Had I read your post before I responded, I could have saved myself the effort! :grin:
Steve
My back is shot but on the days when it feels okay i can stay down on shots. On other days i simply can't and when i play in pain, i can't make a ball so i usually put the cue away. Hope your back is not chronic like mine.
folow through
Hi Eric, I have a bad back and because of this I jump up. I used to be right over the stick ,chin almost touching the shaft when you are to high up your follow through is not as straight as you want it to be. I play 3C'S and I can get away with it but when playing pool you want to see and line up your shot,so if your head is not directed over the cue and your not low enough you,ll miss more shots and also move up your head. I hope you try and stay down without moving up.I hope this helps your form and follow through,you will definitely make more shots and your concentration will be a big part of your game.FastEddieF says give it a try, don't give up and stay down
Hi Eric, I have a bad back and because of this I jump up. I used to be right over the stick ,chin almost touching the shaft when you are to high up your follow through is not as straight as you want it to be. I play 3C'S and I can get away with it but when playing pool you want to see and line up your shot,so if your head is not directed over the cue and your not low enough you,ll miss more shots and also move up your head. I hope you try and stay down without moving up.I hope this helps your form and follow through,you will definitely make more shots and your concentration will be a big part of your game.FastEddieF says give it a try, don't give up and stay down
there is normal to long back stroke, no Hopkins stroke. I learned to play on slow cloth where you had to have a big stroke/powerful to move the CB.
Bobroberts, my back is beyond chronic, :frown:
when I get in stroke again I'm going to set up a tripod and I have a new camera nad I'm going to replicate this and also have shot from the back of me.
my intent with this thread was to just have a quality thread for a change with out arguments and hear some critisism, I know I'm comming up it get worse the longer session I play or if the pain kicks in during a session real bad.
I'm really impressed with the everyone noticing the obvious flaws. I might have raised up a bit more because I did ask for the second pic to be taken so its not perfect like if it was taken from a burst of 5 pics. I really dont know-I just know I wasnt playing good then and I'm still not playing very good,
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I'm not a pool instructor but I do suspect a few things going on not shown in pics very well. Try starting off in a more upright position (like where the pic showed it ended). Looks like you may be dropping your elbow and raising your hand towards your chest on follow through, avoid doing that. Shooting from a higher visual vantage point requires getting used to but is very doable.