ShootingArts said:
For all you would-be-flamers!
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Yeah, but some of them were BIG rocks!...LOLDartman said:
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Nice!
Spice for nice photoshop job!!
Ray
reverend said:
Spice for nice photoshop job!!
Ray
Brought it forward for Bob De Turk
I always like RKC's posts because they're loaded with photos of his good work. He has a right to be proud, everything looks perfect and from the testimonials it sounds like he's the real deal. The tables play as good as they look.
Hu meanwhile generally makes pretty interesting, sensible, levelheaded posts. I can't see him being on the wrong end of a conflict. So it's hard to figure out how these two could come to be fighting. It gives me FEELINGS OF SAD.
Hu meanwhile generally makes pretty interesting, sensible, levelheaded posts. I can't see him being on the wrong end of a conflict. So it's hard to figure out how these two could come to be fighting. It gives me FEELINGS OF SAD.
Great craftsmanship is a wonderful thing. It is not boasting...... it is the age old American value of "being proud of your work". A true craftsman must be proud of their work and in your work, the pride shows. You don't just get the job done, you get it done right .......and with pride. JOB WELL DONE....... and as a player who appreciates good quality tables and the effort it takes to get them that way and keep them that way..... I THANK YOU!
Tammie Jones
Tammie Jones
it is an old thread
It is an old thread. RKO is not only proud of his own work he knocks other people's. I haven't read back to see if this is the particular thread but RKO knocked Ernesto for changing the angle of the cushion backing and using the cushions Ernesto preferred to make a table play the way he wanted it to. A few weeks back RKO was boasting of his own great work, changing the angle behind the cushions to make the table play the way he wanted it to!!!
I look at some of the "great work" RKO brags about such as stapling in a thin strip of badly warped wood to even out the backer and the slate and I laugh that he would post photographs of such work but what the hell if he and the customer thinks that is great work it ain't any skin off of my butt.
RKO is a decent technician. He wouldn't be allowed on my property for a handful of reasons, including our differences of opinion as to what quality work is.
Hu
It is an old thread. RKO is not only proud of his own work he knocks other people's. I haven't read back to see if this is the particular thread but RKO knocked Ernesto for changing the angle of the cushion backing and using the cushions Ernesto preferred to make a table play the way he wanted it to. A few weeks back RKO was boasting of his own great work, changing the angle behind the cushions to make the table play the way he wanted it to!!!
I look at some of the "great work" RKO brags about such as stapling in a thin strip of badly warped wood to even out the backer and the slate and I laugh that he would post photographs of such work but what the hell if he and the customer thinks that is great work it ain't any skin off of my butt.
RKO is a decent technician. He wouldn't be allowed on my property for a handful of reasons, including our differences of opinion as to what quality work is.
Hu
Thank you for your kind words. In the past I've blamed the cloth manufactures, table manufactures, slate manufactures, and cushion manufactures for the lack of mechanic's knowing what they're doing working on pool tables because ALL of them produce a portion of the products that go into making a pool table, yet NONE of them produce materials to teach mechanics how to work with their products specifically, meaning how to correctly set up a pool table, or how to correctly install the cloth, or how to correctly level the slates. So for YEARS mechanics have been working in the blind with no support from manufactures at any level. Table manufactures can't even get the correct information from cushion manufactures as to what is the correct rail thickness that will make the cushions installed on the rails play at their best....because even THEY don't know, and if they do know, they're not willing to share that information....leaving the table manufactures in the blind as well.
When I can take a set of cushions off one table that plays like crap, install them on another table and they play great...what's wrong with that picture? When I can install Simonis cloth without stretch shadows all over on the rails but another mechanic can't...what's wrong with that picture?
That is why it's my goals to teach mechanics around the country, as well as around the world how to do this kind of work correctly, and that starts at the manufacture level first, which is where I'm at now, getting them on the right sheet of music first, then the rest will fall in line.
Glen
I have helped in redoing a few tables myself and that is genius. I always hated the way the staples showed in the pockets. This is a MUCH CLEANER look. Nice work sir.
What is the white strip that you used?
Thanks
Junior
What is the white strip that you used?
Thanks
Junior
It is an old thread. RKO is not only proud of his own work he knocks other people's. I haven't read back to see if this is the particular thread but RKO knocked Ernesto for changing the angle of the cushion backing and using the cushions Ernesto preferred to make a table play the way he wanted it to. A few weeks back RKO was boasting of his own great work, changing the angle behind the cushions to make the table play the way he wanted it to!!!
I look at some of the "great work" RKO brags about such as stapling in a thin strip of badly warped wood to even out the backer and the slate and I laugh that he would post photographs of such work but what the hell if he and the customer thinks that is great work it ain't any skin off of my butt.
RKO is a decent technician. He wouldn't be allowed on my property for a handful of reasons, including our differences of opinion as to what quality work is.
Hu
You don't have enough money to hire me anyway
It is an old thread. RKO is not only proud of his own work he knocks other people's. I haven't read back to see if this is the particular thread but RKO knocked Ernesto for changing the angle of the cushion backing and using the cushions Ernesto preferred to make a table play the way he wanted it to. A few weeks back RKO was boasting of his own great work, changing the angle behind the cushions to make the table play the way he wanted it to!!!
I look at some of the "great work" RKO brags about such as stapling in a thin strip of badly warped wood to even out the backer and the slate and I laugh that he would post photographs of such work but what the hell if he and the customer thinks that is great work it ain't any skin off of my butt.
RKO is a decent technician. He wouldn't be allowed on my property for a handful of reasons, including our differences of opinion as to what quality work is.
Hu
Hu, I'm working on 11 GC1's & 2's at Malarkeys Pool room in Tacoma, WA. Fixing all the tables right because SOMEONE installed K66 Artemis cushions on all of them and they play like junk because of it. The first table I fixed up has been busy from 11am -2am 7 days a week since I rebuilt the rails, the second one is the next busy table. When ever someone turns the balls in for either of these tables, immediately someone either checks in the balls of they table they're already playing on to get one of these tables, or there's already a waiting list for them...but not any of the other remaining tables....yet to be rebuilt. When I'm done with this pool room, I'll bet you any amount of money you want to bet....that you can't find any 11 GC's in this country that play exactly the same...or better than these 11 tables. Now, I'll give you a guess as to who installed the K66 cushions! Even the players that go up to the Golden Fleece, which has 10 Diamond 9ft ProAms are showing up at Malarkeys....to play at a higher hourly charge, so you FACTS don't speak for themselves, but mine DO, by way of the CUSTOMERS who play on the tables...and can't believe the difference in how they play once I'm done vs how they've played for years before. So, don't take my word for it....call Clark, the owner of Malarkeys and ask him his opinion about the before and after tables 253-961-9602....but I bet you DON'T have the balls to call!!
Glen
Junior, it's a plastic hanger strapping used for hanging plastic pipes, you can find it at Home Depot or Lowe's, just about anywhere for that matter. Ask someone working there to point you in the direction of the "plastic pipe hanger strapping" direction
Glen
you talk too much
Actually you brag too much about everything including your yearly lack of income. Also I know that you used somebody else's money and then couldn't return money you had no right to use to begin with for months on end. I know you had to go begging and then basically blackmailing when your truck needed repairs. I know you still operate illegally and I know some of the methods you think are quality work would be laughed at by many. In short, you put too much of your business on the street. I wouldn't need to hire you if I was willing to, I could buy you and give you away and never miss the money and I'm just a poor ol' country boy.
Hu
You don't have enough money to hire me anyway
Actually you brag too much about everything including your yearly lack of income. Also I know that you used somebody else's money and then couldn't return money you had no right to use to begin with for months on end. I know you had to go begging and then basically blackmailing when your truck needed repairs. I know you still operate illegally and I know some of the methods you think are quality work would be laughed at by many. In short, you put too much of your business on the street. I wouldn't need to hire you if I was willing to, I could buy you and give you away and never miss the money and I'm just a poor ol' country boy.
Hu
Still anxiously waiting for you to come through Ft. Wayne, IN Glen. I find it funny that there is only ONE person out there who bashes your work. You will never be able to please everyone but it appears you come real close...Mark
who bashes his work?
Who bashes his work? I laugh at some of the mickey mouse things that he does like stapling in a strip of wood in the pockets and then coming on here for folks to fall down at his feet and admire his genius. Most folks that kludge together things like that keep quiet about it. I don't bash his overall work.
I do think that the same people that are so thrilled with his work when it is new may find some of his "innovations" to not be so wonderful a few years down the line but time will tell about that. Making tables play differently than 98% of the tables out there is a very dubious benefit unless people only play on one table or one set of tables all altered to play the same.
Glen the tech is not that terrible. There are surely better and worse out there. Glen the guy that thinks he is God's gift to the pool world, him I have to roll my eyes at. Glen the guy that thinks other people should carry him, that's the one I stay away from. Glen is a lawsuit waiting to happen, the main reason he will never set foot on my property.
Hu
Who bashes his work? I laugh at some of the mickey mouse things that he does like stapling in a strip of wood in the pockets and then coming on here for folks to fall down at his feet and admire his genius. Most folks that kludge together things like that keep quiet about it. I don't bash his overall work.
I do think that the same people that are so thrilled with his work when it is new may find some of his "innovations" to not be so wonderful a few years down the line but time will tell about that. Making tables play differently than 98% of the tables out there is a very dubious benefit unless people only play on one table or one set of tables all altered to play the same.
Glen the tech is not that terrible. There are surely better and worse out there. Glen the guy that thinks he is God's gift to the pool world, him I have to roll my eyes at. Glen the guy that thinks other people should carry him, that's the one I stay away from. Glen is a lawsuit waiting to happen, the main reason he will never set foot on my property.
Hu
Hu!!!
weren't you "the" great friend to Terry during his surgery? the laptop fund and all? sorry, my mind is not what it used to be, but i thought all that was from you hu, a great guy and fellow az'er, and more imho - a very decent man. did my memory fail [again]?
anyway...
i can just tell you this:
you are completely wrong about glen. and in my opinion glen 'helped' doctor98; so he waited for some $$$; to fn bad. 98 ain't my cup of tea either, but i don't go around bad mouthing him. but what has he done for pool?
glen has done TONS!!!!
and fyi: i am no hotshot, but i have a few friends and i will tell you this from being in the west...
everyone of them who know many tech's [i don't want to point fingers at anyone]; when asked said...
glen is CLEARLY THE BEST
hands down, THE BEST!!
i would be happy to tell you the whole story of what glen did for me so if you want pm me and you phone number], but never asked for a dime more, day after day working, then helping me get brand new slates direct from sean cummings the pres of brunswich, then coming back and picking them up for me and installing, ect, and still never asked me for a dime.
so of course we played on my new great table for $$$, $100 a game, i knew he would beat me. but to his credit, he just said "STOP". he on his own just felt appreciated. and that was enough for him. so...
as you have 'all your reasons' for disliking him, i have my reasons for liking him but completely different from you, i truly appreciate him for his complete dedication to me/us, but more importantly to all of us to have the best he can do, or imho, the best of the best playing tables.
i hope you still like me as i respected you much for so many of your posts and for being there for someone i think is a great asset to us all, Terry, another man i truly admire, like i did you. please rethink.
i love this site and have learned so much, but i know, i know so little. maybe you have more $$$ than me, maybe you are more important than me, that is fine. i just hope you will give me enough respect as a fellow az'er and rethink about glen.
and if i can ask your help, please read the following threads:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=173837
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=176023
we would really appreciate any help on these.
all the best,
smokey
weren't you "the" great friend to Terry during his surgery? the laptop fund and all? sorry, my mind is not what it used to be, but i thought all that was from you hu, a great guy and fellow az'er, and more imho - a very decent man. did my memory fail [again]?
anyway...
i can just tell you this:
you are completely wrong about glen. and in my opinion glen 'helped' doctor98; so he waited for some $$$; to fn bad. 98 ain't my cup of tea either, but i don't go around bad mouthing him. but what has he done for pool?
glen has done TONS!!!!
and fyi: i am no hotshot, but i have a few friends and i will tell you this from being in the west...
everyone of them who know many tech's [i don't want to point fingers at anyone]; when asked said...
glen is CLEARLY THE BEST
hands down, THE BEST!!
i would be happy to tell you the whole story of what glen did for me so if you want pm me and you phone number], but never asked for a dime more, day after day working, then helping me get brand new slates direct from sean cummings the pres of brunswich, then coming back and picking them up for me and installing, ect, and still never asked me for a dime.
so of course we played on my new great table for $$$, $100 a game, i knew he would beat me. but to his credit, he just said "STOP". he on his own just felt appreciated. and that was enough for him. so...
as you have 'all your reasons' for disliking him, i have my reasons for liking him but completely different from you, i truly appreciate him for his complete dedication to me/us, but more importantly to all of us to have the best he can do, or imho, the best of the best playing tables.
i hope you still like me as i respected you much for so many of your posts and for being there for someone i think is a great asset to us all, Terry, another man i truly admire, like i did you. please rethink.
i love this site and have learned so much, but i know, i know so little. maybe you have more $$$ than me, maybe you are more important than me, that is fine. i just hope you will give me enough respect as a fellow az'er and rethink about glen.
and if i can ask your help, please read the following threads:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=173837
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=176023
we would really appreciate any help on these.
all the best,
smokey
Hu, the fact that I'd rather eat out of the bottom of a garbage can than rob someone if I was that hungry is the way I am, but never the less...if you offered me a million dollars to recover your pool table so I wouldn't have to eat out of a garbage can....I'd still tell you....you DON'T have enough money to buy my work...and continue looking for something to eat
Fortunately I'm a good table mechanic, so I'll never go hungryYour problem with me as a mechanic, is that I set the bar to high for your mechanic to follow in my foot steps, and I think that bothers you just a little to much
but...OH well! I'm getting ready to change another part of this industry....and believe me, you'll hear about it soon enough and so will everyone else....but it won't be me doing the talking about the change...THAT will come from someone else....by way of a "Thank you"Glen