Form, mechanics

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My wrist position is at a 25 degree angle compared to my forearm, i think this is called sidesaddle. I can straighten out my wrist but it feels a little different and my speed game is off when i do. Im playing closer to my expectations lately and dont want to change anything but if it will help me in the long run i am willing to change. Do i need to straighten my wrist out in order to have the proper mechanics? i am 6 foot 5 so maybe that has something to do with it. I just noticed this and i am shooting lights out lately so really hope this angle of the wrist is ok.
 
Which ever method will make you more consistent in the long run , is the better way.

Generally speaking , better form will hold up better , longer and under pressure.

It's hard to quantify depending on how long you've been at it and how far you are hoping to take it. There are plenty examples of world champions in every sport that have horrible form. However, they are more often than not, the exception.

Are you exceptional ?

:)
 
my wrist does not hand straight either and I dont think it is detrimental.

Every arm is different, so who knows wtf is going on in there that makes you align the process the way you doodoo.
 
Which ever method will make you more consistent in the long run , is the better way.

Generally speaking , better form will hold up better , longer and under pressure.

It's hard to quantify depending on how long you've been at it and how far you are hoping to take it. There are plenty examples of world champions in every sport that have horrible form. However, they are more often than not, the exception.

Are you exceptional ?

:)

Yes, im exceptional , lol jk self perspective doesnt mean much online . my form isnt horrible, my wrist is just at a slight angle, well 20 degrees or so. on long draw shots i sometimes pull the cue ball to the right so maybe this is the issue. Iv been at it a while, and hoping to take it far...................... i practice a lot. lol. Anybody else have a wrist angle? Im shooting the best i ever have and im about to change my form, scary...................
 
Is there a reason you cock your wrist in a bit? Did it always feel a little weird to just let your hand hand straight down from the forearm? Do you feel like you'll hit the rail or something in your swing so you're holding the cue up a bit to avoid that?

Most mechanics come naturally, they're simply common sense. When someone does something wildly different, like a sidearm, there's usually a reason for it. Figure out that reason and you can figure out if the wrist thing is necessary or just an oddity.

I have no idea if it will hold you back but as long as you can put a stroke on a ball and move it anywhere around the table, it doesn't sound major.
 
look at players like Keith Mcready and the way he holds his wrists. Its all personal preference and comfort.
 
Is there a reason you cock your wrist in a bit? Did it always feel a little weird to just let your hand hand straight down from the forearm? Do you feel like you'll hit the rail or something in your swing so you're holding the cue up a bit to avoid that?

Most mechanics come naturally, they're simply common sense. When someone does something wildly different, like a sidearm, there's usually a reason for it. Figure out that reason and you can figure out if the wrist thing is necessary or just an oddity.

I have no idea if it will hold you back but as long as you can put a stroke on a ball and move it anywhere around the table, it doesn't sound major.

I think i started doing it because my arms are long and my elbow is way jacked up when i keep my wrist straight so i started bending my wrist a little to compensate. Maybe with my height this is the best form for me, im gonna go test the different wrist positions more. i already bought a wrist stabilizer.
 
eddie0776...Comfort is one thing. Functionality is another. Keith is a singularly gigantic exception, and his method was dictated by his childhood. For most of us, we want the wrist relaxed (thumb pointing straight down) at ball address. Cocking the wrist forwards or backwards before execution is asking for small errors in the delivery of an accurate stroke.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

look at players like Keith Mcready and the way he holds his wrists. Its all personal preference and comfort.
 
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Is your hand similar to mine?
 
I agree with Scott Lee on this issue.

If you're serious about improving, then straighten out the wrist. It will pay off in the long run.
 
eddie0776...Comfort is one thing. Functionality is another. Keith is a singularly gigantic exception, and his method was dictated by his childhood. For most of us, we want the wrist relaxed (thumb pointing straight down) at ball address. Cocking the wrist forwards or backwards before execution is asking for small errors in the delivery of an accurate stroke.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I seem to use more of my tricep muscle when straightening my wrist out. It affects my speed but is helping on long shots. Im going to keep my newly acquired wrist brace on until im 25. ( 1158+hrs of play from now) That should fix it. Small errors will not be tolerated, lol. I'll just change and do it the right way.
 
One thing I've noticed to correct this is shooting one handed without resting your cue on anything. Choke up on the cue for better balance. Gravity sort of forces your arm to fall in a more natural, straight position.
 
I posted this before and got laughed at, so I'll post it again,lol. I found that if I turn my wrist in towards me, especially on long shots, I have more control over my stroke. It gives just a little tension on my wrist, and keeps my line down the table perfect. I made a ton of money playing pool, so I guess it worked,lol.
 
I shoot sidearm. A few great players shot sidearm. McCready and Willie Hoppe.

I believe the reason for this is because they and I had a problem with reaching over the table at such a young age.

Plus, back in the day, no one, and I mean no one showed you anything for free. No one was there to straighten me out.

As I grew, I kept it. For the most of my life, I followed the philosophy it didn't make any difference how I stroked the ball as long as I did it the same way everytime.

You have to understand something. For three years of my life in my thirties , I was a road player. It was my living and I did well at it.

I'm retired now (62). It's only been in the last couple of years that I've really worked on changing my wrist position.

What a difference! I'm a much better ball maker now.

What Scott says is true. In the long run, changing will benefit your game. It worked for me.

Problem is it takes a minimun of three weeks to change a habit if you play 3+ hours a day. If you cannot devote that much time to pracitice, expect it to take up to 6 months to one year. I'm talking about the time when you finally don't have to think about it and it becomes embedded in muscle memory.

Wish I'd done it forty years ago.


Stones< too blind to see now. LOL
 
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I shoot sidearm. A few great players shot sidearm. McCready and Willie Hoppe.

I believe the reason for this is because they and I had a problem with reaching over the table at such a young age.

Plus, back in the day, no one, and I mean no one showed you anything for free. No one was there to straighten me out.

As I grew, I kept it. For the most of my life I followed the philosophy it didn't make any difference how I stroked the ball as long as I did it the same way everytime.

You have to understand something. For three years of my life in my thirties , I was a road player. It was my living and I did well at it.

I retired now (62). It's only been in the last couple of years that I've really worked on changing my wrist position.

What a difference! I'm a much better ball maker now.

What Scott says is true. In the long run, changing will benefit your game. It worked for me.

Wish I'd done it forty years ago.


Stones
Side arm or anything different was a great hustle, also, back in the day. When money was always around to be had.
 
I posted this before and got laughed at, so I'll post it again,lol. I found that if I turn my wrist in towards me, especially on long shots, I have more control over my stroke. It gives just a little tension on my wrist, and keeps my line down the table perfect. I made a ton of money playing pool, so I guess it worked,lol.

"Wrist in towards me" You mean your hand is closer to your body, right?
 
Side arm or anything different was a great hustle, also, back in the day. When money was always around to be had.

Funny thing is not only did I have the ol' sidearm going, I had a "poke" stroke like Mosconi and Hopkins.

As I've said in another ancient thread, I always thought I had a good standard stroke. When video cameras first came out, a friend of mine video taped me playing.

Upon seeing the tape, all I thought was "Jeez, my stroke looks like a unfolding lawnchair!"


Stones
 
Don't change a thing.........

Yes, im exceptional , lol jk self perspective doesnt mean much online . my form isnt horrible, my wrist is just at a slight angle, well 20 degrees or so. on long draw shots i sometimes pull the cue ball to the right so maybe this is the issue. Iv been at it a while, and hoping to take it far...................... i practice a lot. lol. Anybody else have a wrist angle? Im shooting the best i ever have and im about to change my form, scary...................

With many players the problem starts straight down and then starts to curl in.

Some players that get down real low have the wrist curled in and shoot pretty good like that.

But for the rest of us we need it straight or a little cocked out.

I teach players to cock the wrist out a little to get away from curling it in. Out is way better. Your wrist will still work like a piston when it's straight down or cocked out.

Keep on keep'en and keep on shootin them in.

Green light from me..............
 
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