From the Monkey Man

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I would like to state for the record about the incident where I did not keep one foot on the floor, prior to my match against Archer I overheard Earl talking to the ref. and questioning Jose Parica. I turned my head and there was Jose one of the greatest players on the planet stretched out with his feet no where close to the ground, Earl asked the ref if this was a foul and she said no. I thought to myself that is insanity to not have one foot on the floor, Earl went on to explain that it was a poor rule and the ref. responded by saying "well Earl he is not as tall as you." I am familiar with the equipment and how delicate the cushions are when abused like sitting on them as Jose was doing.
Here is my question to recovery jones and his cute little ditty about the monkey man finding a loop hole, if the greatest players out there are taking advantage of a rule that should be place but is not then why should I let them have full advantage over me. The reason I won the match against Archer was not because I climbed the table, when he would not shake my hand I found an earman and said that I was really beginning to like this 8-ball. Johnny showed his worst side again by asking me to gamble, to which I had a strong and confident response, I told him that if he wanted we could cruise down to the local billiard room and play either some One Pocket or Bumps for a minimum of $500.00 a game. He said he didn't play One Pocket or Bank Pool, Johnny is a champion but he steped over the line when he asked me to gamble, he prefers to play the games that are mostly offensive and repetative. If he would have played and stepped out of his comfort zone he might have gotten one of his Georgia peachy feathers ruffled, as those are my best games and I would have like to have seen Johnny's One Pocket he has allways avoided playing these two games at the DCC and only played 9 ball, I can't understand that cause I think the Banks and One hole are the two best events.

Sincerely, Danny Harriman
 
I think i would have laughed if i heard a ref tell me its ok because so n so isnt as tall as me. That its ok for him to lay on the table. I would be hoping to play someone who's way over 6ft tall and then pull the same stunt and then say, well you so freakin tall, i need all the advantage i can get in this game.

I would think someone like Alex P would be able to lay all over the tables and pot his balls. And isnt keeping one foot on the ground one of the first rules you learn when shooting pool?
 
whoa nice to that story... hmmm quite weird that archer would only play in 9 ball in the DCC and skip the 2 events. :D Lol.
 
bobson_215 said:
whoa nice to that story... hmmm quite weird that archer would only play in 9 ball in the DCC and skip the 2 events. :D Lol.
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Interesting, yes...weird, I don't know. I'd never heard of Archer playing either. I'd only heard of him playing 8 and 9. I wonder if he even delves into 14.1?

LOL, Danny...you sure he didn't want to play because he didn't play either game, or did he have a lint-picking appointment with his next match table? God forbid he let some of that lint screw up his rolls, especially with that Gorina slow-nap cloth. ;)
 
Danny Harriman said:
If he would have played and stepped out of his comfort zone he might have gotten one of his Georgia peachy feathers ruffled, as those are my best games and I would have like to have seen Johnny's One Pocket he has allways avoided playing these two games at the DCC and only played 9 ball, I can't understand that cause I think the Banks and One hole are the two best events.

Sincerely, Danny Harriman
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Not enTIREly true. I have at least one match where Johnny plays One Pocket. He beat Shannon Daulton either 3-0 or 3-1. I think it was 3-0. He moved okay, not spectacularly.. But ran 8 and out just about every time he had the slightest hint of a shot. :D And they weren't hangers, that's for sure!

Russ
 
Danny Harriman said:
I would like to state for the record about the incident where I did not keep one foot on the floor, prior to my match against Archer I overheard Earl talking to the ref. and questioning Jose Parica. I turned my head and there was Jose one of the greatest players on the planet stretched out with his feet no where close to the ground, Earl asked the ref if this was a foul and she said no. I thought to myself that is insanity to not have one foot on the floor, Earl went on to explain that it was a poor rule and the ref. responded by saying "well Earl he is not as tall as you." I am familiar with the equipment and how delicate the cushions are when abused like sitting on them as Jose was doing.
Here is my question to recovery jones and his cute little ditty about the monkey man finding a loop hole, if the greatest players out there are taking advantage of a rule that should be place but is not then why should I let them have full advantage over me. The reason I won the match against Archer was not because I climbed the table, when he would not shake my hand I found an earman and said that I was really beginning to like this 8-ball. Johnny showed his worst side again by asking me to gamble, to which I had a strong and confident response, I told him that if he wanted we could cruise down to the local billiard room and play either some One Pocket or Bumps for a minimum of $500.00 a game. He said he didn't play One Pocket or Bank Pool, Johnny is a champion but he steped over the line when he asked me to gamble, he prefers to play the games that are mostly offensive and repetative. If he would have played and stepped out of his comfort zone he might have gotten one of his Georgia peachy feathers ruffled, as those are my best games and I would have like to have seen Johnny's One Pocket he has allways avoided playing these two games at the DCC and only played 9 ball, I can't understand that cause I think the Banks and One hole are the two best events.

Sincerely, Danny Harriman
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Hi Danny,

Thanks for refering to my song as "a cute little ditty", much appreciated.

When I posted up, I had no clue that Paricia and Varner had done the table climb before you did.I got my info from the IPT site which only made mention of your table climb.

All the fans present were dumfounded and did at the time think that you had fouled(cheated)and were amazed that the ref didn't call it.That according to what I read in the IPT write up.

If I had of known that this was the case with Archer and Parica, I would have probably penned a 70's tune called, "Hey Hey We're the Monkee's" instead, by a band called "The Monkee's."

Know that I've since learned all the facts, I apologize to you, as I don't blame you for competing by the rules that others did.Why should you be disadvantaged, I agree.

As for the song, I have nothing personal against you as I've allways try to write "humorous satires" about confrontational happenings, and wanted to humor your's and Johnny's dust up.

I've wrote about Bush, our Prime minster Harper, our Premier Gordon Campbell,Bin Laden, our local police force, and slammed them on TV as I sing off and on at a local TV show called Speakers Corner.I've also wrote songs about Azer's Rakmsuckr, Timberly, Dr.Cues Protege and others.Rakmsuckr slammed me back in a song, all in good fun.

You are a class act(good sport) by not coming down hard on me with some anger for my song post. I've got a lot of respect for you, for that.
RJ

ps. Because of that,out of respect to you I'm going to go delete my Monkey man song and ask others to do the same.We had a few laughs ,now it's time to move on.
 
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Hi Danny

I'm glad you have spoken your opinion about this incident. I just got finished posting that I thought the song was funny and I hoped that you would too. However, I understand, given all of the flack you've gotten, how you might not think its so funny.

I think Recovery Jones just wanted to make light of the situation. I thought the song was in jest. Hopefully, you can look back at it and laugh at some point. Judging by the title of your post, perhaps you are able to laugh about it at least a little bit.

My opinion on the matter is that the IPT dropped the ball by leaving the rule out. As soon as the IPT officials realized that the rule had been left out, they could have simply made an announcement that they made a mistake, and from that point forward the foot rule is now in effect. However, they didn't do that. Therefore, you were smart to take advantage of the way the rules were. You were in the right. Johnny, in my opinion, shouldn't have acted the way he did, but instead, he should have voiced his concern about the rule to the IPT.

I'm a fan of his, but sadly, he was the one guilty of unsportsmanlike conduct, in my opinion. I admit, that is easy for me to say, as I'm not out there feeling the pressure that you guys do. I just hope that it all blows over, or Johnny apologizes to you, as you did nothing wrong, IMO. In what other sport would a rule change, and then people expect someone not to play by that new rule, even if the new rule is bad? As I said in another post, hopefully Johnny regrets it, and was simply misdirecting his frustration about the rule.

I hope you don't let it get to you too much. Sounds like you're taking it in stride. You can't please everyone. Just get out there at the next event, and kick a$$.
 
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Danny Harriman said:
I would like to state for the record about the incident where I did not keep one foot on the floor, prior to my match against Archer I overheard Earl talking to the ref. and questioning Jose Parica. I turned my head and there was Jose one of the greatest players on the planet stretched out with his feet no where close to the ground, Earl asked the ref if this was a foul and she said no. I thought to myself that is insanity to not have one foot on the floor, Earl went on to explain that it was a poor rule and the ref. responded by saying "well Earl he is not as tall as you." I am familiar with the equipment and how delicate the cushions are when abused like sitting on them as Jose was doing.
Here is my question to recovery jones and his cute little ditty about the monkey man finding a loop hole, if the greatest players out there are taking advantage of a rule that should be place but is not then why should I let them have full advantage over me. The reason I won the match against Archer was not because I climbed the table, when he would not shake my hand I found an earman and said that I was really beginning to like this 8-ball. Johnny showed his worst side again by asking me to gamble, to which I had a strong and confident response, I told him that if he wanted we could cruise down to the local billiard room and play either some One Pocket or Bumps for a minimum of $500.00 a game. He said he didn't play One Pocket or Bank Pool, Johnny is a champion but he steped over the line when he asked me to gamble, he prefers to play the games that are mostly offensive and repetative. If he would have played and stepped out of his comfort zone he might have gotten one of his Georgia peachy feathers ruffled, as those are my best games and I would have like to have seen Johnny's One Pocket he has allways avoided playing these two games at the DCC and only played 9 ball, I can't understand that cause I think the Banks and One hole are the two best events.

Sincerely, Danny Harriman
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You play by the rules presented, when in Rome....Yada yada yada, it's over and done with, it was a loop hole. I can't believe there could be such a loop hole, but there was. You owe no apology, as far as Johnny's behavior after I am sure it was a heat of the battle response and he should also get a pass. I think (hope) it's in the past and hope it stays there. You'd think that with such a large purse they would have spent some of the cash to get the rules straight first.

Jim
 
are you kinding me!!!! eight and out anytime he got a near shot. give me a break noone does that consistantly thats why the game is so difficult. your completely off track with that statement
 
Booster Box

That's what they need,a box anyone can stand on to reach shots.Make it pretty & paint IPT on the sides.
 
o and i forgot ive played danny in olathe, ks in the one - hole and won one outta 3 so i beat u all ahahahahhhahahahahahahahahahaahah
 
I Guess It Was A Case Of Monkey See Monkey Do

I can understand your point here Danny and I respect you for getting on here and offering an explanation. I too posted without knowing about Jose and Nick. It doesn't change my opinion of your behavior though. I'm equally disappointed that the other players behaved this way too. I know there's a lot of cash on the line, and it was within the given rule set. I keep hearing my mom's voice in my head saying "If Jose jumped off a bridge would you do it too?" Because others are willing to compromise themselves for the money is sad.

I'm not much of a player, no where near your caliber, and the biggest tourney purse I've competed for is probably $80.00 on a Friday night. I'm the guy that the KOH television show is directed at. This site has spoiled that a bit because I know won won before it hits the airways, but many don't know this site exists. Everyone knows the foot on the floor rule. If I see a pro on tv climbing up on the table for a shot I'm going to think "real pool real rules, real BS" I'd probably not watch it again.

You have won my respect for coming on here and opening yourself up to a flaming. It still doesn't make climbing on the table right, that's why there's a mechanical bridge, or an opposite hand shot.

McCue Banger McCue
 
Great job at the IPT event Danny, you showed us all a lot in the match against Drago. At 5'6" I would have needed a ladder to get up on that Diamond, Then I would have walked from one end of that table to the other naked to win that kind of money playing pool!:D

I wish I were there to hear that barking between you and Johnny. Shame nothing ever came from it YET :D please keep us all informed on that. Also...don't ask Johnny to play straight pool....in the 2000 U.S.Open(i think) he went 150......TWICE. I watched that match with Johnny and Shannon, and yes, he went out at every chance, so I'm sure he plays all games, but like all smart game makers, he wants to play HIS game.

good luck, Gerry
 
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Gerry said:
Great job at the IPT event Danny, you showed us all a lot in the match against Drago. At 5'6" I would have needed a ladder to get up on that Diamond, Then I would have walked from one end of that table to the other naked to win that kind of money playing pool!:D

I wish I were there to hear that barking between you and Johnny. Shame nothing ever came from it YET :D please keep us all informed on that. Also...don't ask Johnny to play straight pool....in the 2000 U.S.Open(i think) he went 150......TWICE. I watched that match with Johnny and Shannon, and yes, he went out at every chance, so I'm sure he plays all games, but like all smart game makers, he wants to play HIS game.

good luck, Gerry
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I like it that Danny hasn't lost his sense of humor, where there is humor there is hope ... lol Gerry, I would like to play you some ... I can spot you an inch! and no, we do not want to see you naked walking from one end to the other, please!!!! ....lol
 
suckershot said:
Interesting, yes...weird, I don't know. I'd never heard of Archer playing either. I'd only heard of him playing 8 and 9. I wonder if he even delves into 14.1?
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Johnny Archer won his first 14.1 professional event, beating Nick Varner in the final finals. He ran a 199.

Fred
 
DelaWho??? said:
. I keep hearing my mom's voice in my head saying "If Jose jumped off a bridge would you do it too?" Because others are willing to compromise themselves for the money is sad.


McCue Banger McCue
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Jumping off a bridge is illegal(suicide), getting on the table was not!

Rodney
 
Danny Harriman said:
and the ref. responded by saying "well Earl he is not as tall as you."
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The reason I won the match against Archer was not because I climbed the table,
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I think what really impresses me is that you were able to execute the shot at all. I mean, I'm height challenged. If ever a shot presented itself that I'd have to climb on the table to reach it, I don't know if I could actually execute it since I've never done it before!

Fred
 
Cornerman said:
, I don't know if I could actually execute it since I've never done it before!

Fred
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I saw the pics of Gabe and I can't imagine trying to stroke from some quasi lotus position!
 
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