FS: Ebony with Amboyna burl and Narra..

foxcues said:
I would like to say that is a nice cue and voice my opinion on some of the post.I have never had any dealings with either cue maker so my opinion is not jaded.
At some point and time someone was the first to do a fullsplice,someone was the first to add inlays and somone was the first to add a steel joint,All those things have been copied from the first person to do it.If things were not copied we wouldn`t have the cues we have today(good or bad).I can see if someone is making a exact copy of a cue and trying to pass it of as a original but to say that a design or technique is only mine to use(unless it is copywrighted,patented)is crazy.
Look at Gus,George and Burton,how many ideas of theirs have been copied by other cue makers.
I`m not trying to start an arguement or get flamed but just give my honest opinion.
Unless you get a patent your work is subject to be copied/modified and theres nothing you can do about it but take it as a compliment because you must have done something unique and good for it to be copied.JMHO
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VERY TRUE....................
How many Southwest "Style" cues do you see?
How many TAD Merry Widow trubuit cues do you see on the market?
Unless a design is patented a person has no rights to say "that's mine and no one elses" to use. Having said that if a cue maker does his/her best to make an exact copy of someone's design and try to pass it off as an original SWC, ST, etc....................... then let the flames and legal action begin.
Should we flame the cue maker who made the TAD tribute, after all TAD is still alive?
 

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Keep building it brother, you are entitled to build anything you wish. He may feel intimidated when he should feel complimented. They may have similarities on the look but that's where it ends. but the distinction of the hit will create difference from his cues and yours.
I completely agree on the previous comments.
You have refined the skill required to create....keep creating masterpieces my friend.
PinoyPower!
 
Al_Bautista_Cue said:
Hello Eric, again sorry if thats what you feel about me, i know that i am not a perfect human, i will say this again to you, i do have a big respect on you and to your works, no one can follow your steps because you are a unique man when it comes to cuemaking, if the use of the scallop really bothers you, again accept my sincere apology cause i dont want to start any trouble or debate here. That scallop design is not worth dying for. Its clear to me, scallops are for you only. Again sorry for all the inconvenience.

have a nice day to all,
Al
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Beautiful cue. You make beautiful cues. I would like to have one one day. They look really well made. And just my .02, you owe noone an apology. It is the other way around. I hope you get a phone call or an email. If not, I would wash my hands of him. He's a @#%& if you ask me.
 
qbilder said:
Obviously he's unoriginal & feels good about copying somebody else's designs. There's no craftsmanship, uniqueness nor heart involved. Just trying to ride another builder's skirt tales instead of manning up & creating something of his own.
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This coming from the guy who builds cues that all look the same. Eric, get a grip and stop acting like you are the end all be all of cue makers. This is far from the first time you have bashed another cue maker or member on this forum. Personally I'm not impressed with your designs and I'm not the only one who's sick of you're holier than thou attitude. I've said it before and I'll say it again, when you can turn out cues like Ernie, Schick, Prewitt, etc, then maybe you can have the ego you have. Until then please just sit back, enjoy the forum, keep your trap shut, and stop crapping in other peoples threads.
 
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Monstermash said:
This coming from the guy who builds cues that all look the same. Eric, get a grip and stop acting like you are the end all be all of cue makers. This is far from the first time you have bashed another cue maker or member on this forum. Personally I'm not impressed with your designs and I'm not the only one who's sick of you're holier than thou attitude. I've said it before and I'll say it again, when you can turn out cues like Ernie, Schick, Prewitt, etc, then maybe you can have the ego you have. Until then please just sit back, enjoy the forum, keep your trap shut, and stop crapping in other peoples threads.
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Free bump....


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Al_Bautista_Cue said:
Up for sale this simple player, as usual nothing fancy, just the beauty of the woods is showcase on this cue. It has a 4 long and 4 short overlapping amboyna burl points, forearm was made of an ebony jet black, buttsleeve also is ebony with 8 window of amboyna burl in alternate size. Wrapless handle made of Narra i got from old antic house here, with ebony butterflies. Amboyna burl buttcap and joint, with thin linen ring design for protection, brass radial pin, ABCDE ringworks, comes with two 1Al1 shafts and protector, Butt weight is 15.25 oz., Shaft A is 3.95 oz. and Shaft B is 3.90 oz both are in 13 mm.., Balance point is 19 inches from the butt, tips is kamui black SS, and a decent case is included for protection upon shipping, and it will via FEDEX. Asking price is 780usd, shipped and insured

here it is:

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Thanks for looking,
Al
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hi al , dont let the nay sayers bother you - it doesnt matter - sometimes theres a lot of negetivity in people and they are frustrated in general , also they cannot fanthom the fact that a person from PH , can make a nice cue. I have bought , sold and traded cues from PH , and the work is getting better with every passing day. I just wish to carry your cues , please contact me , billiard231@hotmail.com . And honestly dont worry a F about scallops or any other crap , innovation and improment on that platform can be rewarding too. Look where the us is today , if we just had people who grew on the platform that this great countries ex leaders created in the past - then today we wont be afriad of foreign competition or feel threatened by china , india or any other country .
The mistakes of the past are we felt secure in our creations , and like FORD , Chrysler and other companies never found it necessary to give the people what they wanted.

So what I am trying to say - dont appologize to anyone , if you are copying someones work , dont worry - but dont copy it page by page , improve on it , its a platform and you should exploit that platform and come out on top , so tommorow - someone else can improve on what you have done.
Why reinvent the wheel , the wheel is here to stay , now if we could find a way to impart less friction to those tires , we might get more fuel economy and save the planet.
 
Al_Bautista_Cue said:
Up for sale this simple player, as usual nothing fancy, just the beauty of the woods is showcase on this cue. It has a 4 long and 4 short overlapping amboyna burl points, forearm was made of an ebony jet black, buttsleeve also is ebony with 8 window of amboyna burl in alternate size. Wrapless handle made of Narra i got from old antic house here, with ebony butterflies. Amboyna burl buttcap and joint, with thin linen ring design for protection, brass radial pin, ABCDE ringworks, comes with two 1Al1 shafts and protector, Butt weight is 15.25 oz., Shaft A is 3.95 oz. and Shaft B is 3.90 oz both are in 13 mm.., Balance point is 19 inches from the butt, tips is kamui black SS, and a decent case is included for protection upon shipping, and it will via FEDEX. Asking price is 780usd, shipped and insured

here it is:

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Thanks for looking,
Al
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hi al , dont let the nay sayers bother you - it doesnt matter - sometimes theres a lot of negetivity in people and they are frustrated in general , also they cannot fanthom the fact that a person from PH , can make a nice cue. I have bought , sold and traded cues from PH , and the work is getting better with every passing day. I just wish to carry your cues , please contact me , billiard231@hotmail.com . And honestly dont worry a F about scallops or any other crap , innovation and improment on that platform can be rewarding too. Look where the us is today , if we just had people who grew on the platform that this great countries ex leaders created in the past - then today we wont be afriad of foreign competition or feel threatened by china , india or any other country .
The mistakes of the past are we felt secure in our creations , and like FORD , Chrysler and other companies never found it necessary to give the people what they wanted.

So what I am trying to say - dont appologize to anyone , if you are copying someones work , dont worry - but dont copy it page by page , improve on it , its a platform and you should exploit that platform and come out on top , so tommorow - someone else can improve on what you have done.
Why reinvent the wheel , the wheel is here to stay , now if we could find a way to impart less friction to those tires , we might get more fuel economy and save the planet
 
Amen chitown!
It requires craftsmanship to execute these design, more power to you Al! I praise your executions.
You stole nothing you simply incorporate and improve what was there.
Once the wheel was made of wood, how would you like to ride on them now on your Porsche, mercedez, etc.
Think about it!
 
Hi Guys,

just let we stick by the thread ok..Lets get AL selling this beauty..
I think there's enough negative words said about AL...
And as a AL Bautista cuedealer..I wanna thank the ppl who's still believe in AL..
So here a bump for this cue....
 
Thanks for all the points given again, I have been recieving a lots of Pms when this controversy pop up, and it was in two kinds, the one that show supports and the other one show lost of respect to me, disappoinments as well as angry to me but all is appreciated, even if its favorable or not. It shows that I am in the reality that i'm not the only one who live on this world, i just want to tell to everyone that i am not a person that only thinks on my own self or my own sake, i love the site as well as all the members here and i dont want to hurt anyones feeling, its like a family to me, and trying to be humble as i can, i do and always consider what other people thinks, and because of that, i differentiate the right from wrong and determine if i was still on the right path or not. i decided to stop making like this design, "SCALLOPS" but i can assure to everyone that its not the end to me, i will continue and explore new things, innovate something new from that Scallop, because i know there is more beautiful from that, cuemaking is full of mystery when it comes to concepts and figures of the design and all i need to do is to discover it and i know its not easy to do.I will do my best, to my knowledge and experience using the Basic rule of my life as a cuemaker, "Let your works do the talking"
And my wish to all my fellow cuemaker specially to Eric, more cues to come and dont stop feeding our eyes on what is beauty all about.
Sorry again for all the inconveniece and more powers to all,

--Al
 
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Rep to you sir !! Al, I know you are not one to just think about yourself and no one else. I got the original cue for another party and told you my situation. You didn't have to help me you could have just said that I didnt buy or get the cue from you and been on your way, but you didnt.. You are a decent man and I know this from how you helped me out. And I told you about me health situation when we forst started messaging and every time yoy messaged me back or anything you have always inquired of how I am doing and that say alot to me sir, I respect you. I should have just put this cue away and kept it but I wanted it to be seen and played with thats the only reason I sold it. The fit and finish of the cue was great, to be honest you could feel on elittle spot on a ring. And the one shaft had alittle tapper roll..but thats it. I would put that cue up against alot of other ,akers on here any day. And I dont care who you are if someone looks hard enough on ANY cue...they can find something. So keep your head up my friend and keep on building. Thanks for going out of your way to help me , but im sorry all of this started. << ED
 
great wood choices and price

I'll bump this nice cue up.. Looks like a ton of work!!!! mark
 
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hey just want to say thanks to arrow and al i wouldnt have this cue if it wasent for you guys. The more i play with this cue the more i want to keep it i am not going to sell this cue and i was offered 800.00.
 
There are a lot of designs in the blue book. If someone goes through the three of them it would not suprise me to see this design. There are also much more elaborate designs, some dating back more than a hundred years.
 
cuemaker03 said:
There are a lot of designs in the blue book. If someone goes through the three of them it would not suprise me to see this design. There are also much more elaborate designs, some dating back more than a hundred years.
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I definitely agree with you on this..take care. Al
 
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