ironman said:
Seems I recall there being a thread about this some time back...
Edit: Ah yes, here it is.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=90048
Last edited:
Gabe Owen forfeits in Austin
- Thread starter gulfportdoc
- Start date
Seems I recall there being a thread about this some time back...
Edit: Ah yes, here it is.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=90048
Dr.DreckDonkey said:
Nice post, Jr. Damn Super Shot!
P.S. Great Finish (5th/6th)! You had tough competition but took them down!
Nice post, Jenn! I remember this event. Larry almost had him.
There is one thing people are forgetting sbout an event like this with Gabe. When you have these many people in an event and if they do some type of time schedule for match times, maybe Gabe missed his match time. He wouldn't be the first pool player to miss a match time. It happens at the US Open every year. It never fails!
My 2 cents, for what it's worth.
There is one thing people are forgetting sbout an event like this with Gabe. When you have these many people in an event and if they do some type of time schedule for match times, maybe Gabe missed his match time. He wouldn't be the first pool player to miss a match time. It happens at the US Open every year. It never fails!
My 2 cents, for what it's worth.
All in all, a nice thread, with an objective examination of the issues surrounding players who opt to forfeit a match in mid-tournament.
As is often my inclination, I stated the case from the vantage point of the fans of the game and the room proprietors who stage events. What I got in return was a lot of courteous, well-stated and well-reasoned rebuttals that have given me a broader view of the issues.
While I'm still struggling to get away form the issue that mid-tournament forfeits by prominent players make pool look bad, I now realize that it's not as cut and dried as it appears.
Thanks to my fellow posters for the education.
As is often my inclination, I stated the case from the vantage point of the fans of the game and the room proprietors who stage events. What I got in return was a lot of courteous, well-stated and well-reasoned rebuttals that have given me a broader view of the issues.
While I'm still struggling to get away form the issue that mid-tournament forfeits by prominent players make pool look bad, I now realize that it's not as cut and dried as it appears.
Thanks to my fellow posters for the education.
sjm said:
Wow - this is an awesome post. You could have kept this to yourself, but I think it's great you posted your thoughts.
sjm said:
Nothing better than a good lynch mob every once in awhile:wink: ...Butch, congrats on your homelife, she's a lucky woman.
Im still hoping for gabe to respond. i wont hold my breath though.
But it would be nice
But it would be nice
I kind of consider pool tournaments much like horse races. People aren't betting on mechanical machines in either one. (although, some people do consider some players - Efren, Hitman, and alot more of them as mechanical machines!:smile
But of course there can be lots of surprises.
For instance, recently at the Belmont, Big Brown, who was built up pre-race as 'guaranteed to win'. (that alone scared me,:yikes: so I didn't bet on him) But he finished dead last, as Kent, the jockey, said his horse just 'didn't show up' for whatever reason. (personally, I think it was a jinx or karma or whatever you want to call it, for the guy that guaranteed him :shakehead
So Kent realized he didn't 'show up' that day, and took it easy on him because of what had happened to Eight Belles in the prior race. (and the speculation as to what happened to Big Brown continues)
I personally think that most all the pros anyway (not just Gabe, but most all of those that I'm aware of) have pretty good track records and do their best not only for themselves but for everyone involved much more often than not. And if something doesn't go quite right, then just wait til next time, as in horse races, or really most any sport. JMHO
But of course there can be lots of surprises. For instance, recently at the Belmont, Big Brown, who was built up pre-race as 'guaranteed to win'. (that alone scared me,:yikes: so I didn't bet on him) But he finished dead last, as Kent, the jockey, said his horse just 'didn't show up' for whatever reason. (personally, I think it was a jinx or karma or whatever you want to call it, for the guy that guaranteed him :shakehead
So Kent realized he didn't 'show up' that day, and took it easy on him because of what had happened to Eight Belles in the prior race. (and the speculation as to what happened to Big Brown continues)
I personally think that most all the pros anyway (not just Gabe, but most all of those that I'm aware of) have pretty good track records and do their best not only for themselves but for everyone involved much more often than not. And if something doesn't go quite right, then just wait til next time, as in horse races, or really most any sport. JMHO
Last edited:
there are times when it just ain't your day
We should all know that there are times when it just ain't your day. If it isn't and conditions are brutal, nothing wrong with calling it a day. There have been a few times that had I not lost I would have forfeited also, just too rough on me to continue without the likelihood of substantial reward at the end of the event.
I don't know if what Gabe did was the best call or not, nobody but Gabe does. I do know it was his call to make.
Hu
We should all know that there are times when it just ain't your day. If it isn't and conditions are brutal, nothing wrong with calling it a day. There have been a few times that had I not lost I would have forfeited also, just too rough on me to continue without the likelihood of substantial reward at the end of the event.
I don't know if what Gabe did was the best call or not, nobody but Gabe does. I do know it was his call to make.
Hu
gabesmom said:I kind of consider pool tournaments much like horse races. People aren't betting on mechanical machines in either one. (although, some people do consider some players - Efren, Hitman, and alot more of them as mechanical machines!:smile
For instance, recently at the Belmont, Big Brown, who was built up pre-race as 'guaranteed to win'. (that alone scared me,:yikes: so I didn't bet on him) But he finished dead last, as Kent, the jockey, said his horse just 'didn't show up' for whatever reason. (personally, I think it was a jinx or karma or whatever you want to call it, for the guy that guaranteed him :shakehead
So Kent realized he didn't 'show up' that day, and took it easy on him because of what had happened to Eight Belles in the prior race. (and the speculation as to what happened to Big Brown continues)
I personally think that most all the pros anyway (not just Gabe, but most all of those that I'm aware of) have pretty good track records and do their best not only for themselves but for everyone involved much more often than not. And if something doesn't go quite right, then just wait til next time, as in horse races, or really most any sport. JMHO
Contrar
Actually there was some great dissussions in this thread giving different viewpoints on forfeiting a match.
When a thread is civilized and open discussion, I think pros will start staying longer! Part if what makes a professional is considering other views.
Hope you don't take that break.
Ray
Johnnyt said:
Actually there was some great dissussions in this thread giving different viewpoints on forfeiting a match.
When a thread is civilized and open discussion, I think pros will start staying longer! Part if what makes a professional is considering other views.
Hope you don't take that break.
Ray
I think just quitting a match would be better than a family emergency.call me silly.