Gambling Jargon?

SLANG WORDS COMMONLY USED BY Pool Gamblers/Road Players:

I have recently moved the west coast and find myself surrounded by "action". I am ready to get involved but don't know the jargon that the peiople here are using as I am relatively knew to the scene. For example "Let's 5 play ahead for a couple cheeseburgers"? Also words like a score, wad, c-note. Also after we have played who pays the table time since my card is already behind the desk? As we can rack up a large bill? Weight, what should you ask for without being offensive?

Here's a few SLANG WORDS COMMONLY USED BY Pool Gamblers/Road Players:

George- Word that means something is good. “the movie was george” or “the game is george” We also use double george to mean really good. This can be signaled to another Road-Player by putting their hand over their chest.
Tom- The opposite of george and simply means something is bad. If the game is a tom game then you shouldn't play. This can be signaled by brushing your nose with your finger. Double tom for emphasis.
Stalling or laying down- playing “under your speed” , missing balls on purpose or anything to make yourself appear to play less than you really do.
Lemon or lemonade- losing on purpose with the intention of coming back at a later time to beat either the person you played or someone else. Enables you to bet higher because someone already saw you lose and underrates your game. Lemons require you to stall.
Jar- means to put something in someones drink to make them play bad and lose. Even if a drink hasn't been opened it can be jarred by shooting the substance in the bottle or can with an insulin needle or syringe.
Spot-book- the book that you keep the names and personal information about someone that tells how to beat them out of the most money, how much they will bet, how much they can be spotted, what they look like, where they play, what game they like and don’t like, and anything else that will help win the maximum money off of them.
Spot-sheet- a piece of paper with all the information you need for a certain location that has information on everyone in the room that has to do with gambling.
Mark- someone that has been targeted to be hustled or conned
Chip- used in reference to drugs that keep you up (amphetamines)
Shortstop- someone that thinks they play well but are not capable of beating any real Road Players.
Steer-man- someone that tells Road-Players where they can go to win money and gives them the information that goes in their spot-book. A good steer-man will make 20% of the winnings for giving a good “steer”.
Stake-horse or backer- someone that puts up the money for a player and usually will split the winnings with the player 50-50 or 60-40 depending on the status of the player and how desperate he is for action.
Bankroll- refers to the money that you have to gamble with. Most gamblers will keep a “roll” of money in their front pocket for show.
Flash- to show a potential mark a roll of money seemingly unintentionally.
Nit- someone that is tight with their money and “won’t bet fat meat is greasy.” “no gambling nit”
Nose open- refers to when a sucker is beyond the point of no return and is chasing his money trying to win it back, but is in a trap and will probably lose all he has and all he can borrow.
Sucker- a loser or someone that always finds a way to lose his money.
Scuffler- someone that hangs around bars or pool rooms looking for suckers that can’t possibly win. They usually make most of their living doing this.
Road-player- the premier pool hustlers. They may go years without losing because they play really well and always know who they are playing before they play. They always have spot-books and access to the best steer-men.
Going off- means losing most if not all of your money gambling
Sharking- to intentionally try to distract your opponent by either saying something or doing something while they are shooting a shot.
Double steer- to give someone a steer to play a certain game, but actually being in with the other person. This is common among hustlers and stake-horses, especially in the big city pool rooms.
Double steer lemon- Pretending to set up a double steer, but actually being in with the first guy for the purpose of getting someone else into a game. Because of the double steer format the winning player would have to split the money with the person setting it up and if it is really a lemon then you are appearing to lose twice as much as you really are and you have the player thinking that he has really won and will tell people that are in with him so that they might get caught up in a future game. This is only done by experienced Road-Players and hustlers.
Dump- to lose a stake-horses money on purpose and splitting it with the player later at a secret meeting place.
Knockers - People that tell others the level of players game so they won't play. Knockers do this to feel important and useful, but as a result keep the action in a pool room to a bare minimum. Knockers are hated by road players.
Detectives - They are like knockers, but sometimes use all the information they come up with to gamble themselves. They know how everyone in town plays and are useful to hustlers because they give them information...sometimes for free, but usually want a "piece of the action" in return.
 
here's one more on top of CJ's awesome list for the OP

Thanks for the response/ So what is a cheesburger? 200? ?

CHEESE BURGER


A cheeseburger is a hamburger topped with cheese. Traditionally, the slice of cheese is placed on top of the meat patty, but the burger can include many variations in structure, ingredients, and composition. The term itself is a portmanteau of the words "cheese" and "hamburger." The cheese is usually cubed, and then added to the cooking hamburger patty shortly before the patty is completely cooked which allows the cheese to melt. Cheeseburgers are often served with lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles, mustard, mayonnaise, or ketchup.
 
Where are you at on the west coast? I'm out here as well in Southern California. If your in socal send me a pm.
There's a lot of common slang, but sometimes people just make stuff up. Each room can be a bit different.
The cheeseburger might have actually been a cheeseburger. I haven't heard that represent an amount. However I do know people who use the term cheeseburger in describing a poor player, or a "banger." Usually they just mean the person is an easy mark, or target.
 
Score means winning some money. Usually, a decent amount.

Wad means a wad of money.

C-note = $100

About paying table time for the loser...just agree upfront that you will both pay your own time. That's the solution. If you happen to make a nice "score" you may feel generous and pay the guys time anyway.

About matching up...you just have to jump in and get your feet wet to get a feel if you haven't been around a lot of action. Play some real cheap and see how you stack up to one of the players. There is usually a hiearchy in the pool room. If you know that hiearchy and where the guy your playing falls in it, it is then easier to gauge how to play all of the others. This just comes with experience. Good luck!

Score in this sense probably just means 20 dollars, I'd think, seeing as he placed it in the same category as a "c-note" and "wad".
 

Only read a few, but the one on "orange crush" is wrong.

edit: I say Dr. Dave has it wrong also. "orange" means the 5 ball. "crush" means the break. The "orange crush" means the 5 and the break. The "5 out" means you have the 5,6,7,8,and 9 as money balls.
FYI, I don't have anything to do with the Wikipedia Cue Sports glossary. My online glossary is here: Dr. Dave's online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases.

Here are the pertinent definitions from my glossary:

orange crush: a gambling handicap where you give your opponent the break and the 5-and-out (see “give the X and out”) in every game.

give the X and out: When playing 9-ball, if you “give” your opponent the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball), then the opponent wins by pocketing the X-ball or any higher-number ball (e.g., the 7-ball, 8-ball, or 9-ball). This is a form of “weight.”

handicap: modified rules or scoring designed to allow players of different skill levels to compete more equally in a league or tournament.

weight: a handicap one player gives another in a money game.

My glossary contains many other gambling terms and phrases. If you see any missing or think any there are incorrect, please let me know.

Regards,
Dave
 
I thought the same thing, if you like you can come here and try him sometime. Shane drills shots I would never even think to swing at, then runs out from every where. If you do get to the table, you are kicking at JUNK, and selling farms.
we humans often fail to realize how well the top players actually play.

they effectively:
1.do not miss makeable shots,
b.generally take easier shots than us hacks
*.end their innings on their terms
  • do not work real jobs
 
FYI, I don't have anything to do with the Wikipedia Cue Sports glossary. My online glossary is here: Dr. Dave's online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases.

Here are the pertinent definitions from my glossary:

orange crush: a gambling handicap where you give your opponent the break and the 5-and-out (see “give the X and out”) in every game.

give the X and out: When playing 9-ball, if you “give” your opponent the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball), then the opponent wins by pocketing the X-ball or any higher-number ball (e.g., the 7-ball, 8-ball, or 9-ball). This is a form of “weight.”

handicap: modified rules or scoring designed to allow players of different skill levels to compete more equally in a league or tournament.

weight: a handicap one player gives another in a money game.

My glossary contains many other gambling terms and phrases. If you see any missing or think any there are incorrect, please let me know.

Regards,
Dave

The 5 AND OUT is what I disagree with Dave. I've always heard it just as the breaks and the 5. Not the breaks and 5 out.

edit: Dave, I know you didn't have anything to do with the Wike article, I thought I made that clear, guess not. I was referring to your article in that part of my post.
 
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Thanks for the response/ So what is a cheesburger? 200? I have been watching 1pocket purely thats because what seems to be the game of choice in my hall, I understand the rules more or less and think I move pretty good but also realize I am a novice. What spot shoould one ask for beginning as the lowest I have seen is 20 a game.

Also what is the general rules of playing a set then stopping? I played a set because that what the girl asked for I won but straight after she didn't pay up she flipped the coin for a new set but I did not want to keep playing as it was getting really late and also she was much better than she played the first set?

Honestly... they were probably just playing for an actual cheeseburger. Cheeseburgers are tasty. If I won a match, and was rewarded with a cheeseburger, it would probably brighten my day. :thumbup:

As for playing a set, then stopping... it's pretty simple: Look at the clock before you start. You have a rough idea of how long a race to 5 (or whatever the set is) will take. If that is going to put you later in the evening than you want to be out, then simply say; "I only have time to play one set. Win or loose, I have to leave after this one. Is that OK with you?" Then, if they are OK playing one set only, then you have a game. If they wanted to play multiple sets, then they don't have to play. Either way, you avoid this situation.
 
orange crush: a gambling handicap where you give your opponent the break and the 5-and-out (see “give the X and out”) in every game.
The 5 AND OUT is what I disagree with Dave. I've always heard it just as the breaks and the 5. Not the breaks and 5 out.
I look forward to hearing what others think about this. I've heard and seen it used both ways. Maybe I'll revise the definition to include both.

Thanks,
Dave
 
I look forward to hearing what others think about this. I've heard and seen it used both ways. Maybe I'll revise the definition to include both.

Thanks,
Dave

Dave,
See the poll I started, we are losing bad in early returns. Most people feel it is the 5 and the break.
 
Dave,
See the poll I started, we are losing bad in early returns. Most people feel it is the 5 and the break.
Thanks for the info and the poll. Thanks to Neil also for pointing it out originally.

FYI, I've revised my online glossary entry as follows:

orange crush: a gambling handicap (“weight”) where you give your opponent the break and the 5 (see “give the X”), or the break and the 5-and-out (see “give the X and out”), in every game.

where:

give the X: When playing 9-ball, if you “give” your opponent the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball), then the opponent wins by pocketing the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball) or the 9-ball. This is a form of “weight.”

give the X and out: When playing 9-ball, if you “give” your opponent the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball), then the opponent wins by pocketing the X-ball or any higher-number ball (e.g., the 7-ball, 8-ball, or 9-ball). This is a form of “weight.”

Thanks again,
Dave
 
Thanks for the info and the poll. Thanks to Neil also for pointing it out originally.

FYI, I've revised my online glossary entry as follows:

orange crush: a gambling handicap (“weight”) where you give your opponent the break and the 5 (see “give the X”), or the break and the 5-and-out (see “give the X and out”), in every game.

where:

give the X: When playing 9-ball, if you “give” your opponent the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball), then the opponent wins by pocketing the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball) or the 9-ball. This is a form of “weight.”

give the X and out: When playing 9-ball, if you “give” your opponent the X-ball (e.g., the 7-ball), then the opponent wins by pocketing the X-ball or any higher-number ball (e.g., the 7-ball, 8-ball, or 9-ball). This is a form of “weight.”

Thanks again,
Dave

For the record, I thought it was the definition you gave. Never been in a game where the spot was given though.
 
For the record, I thought it was the definition you gave. Never been in a game where the spot was given though.
I've also heard and seen it both ways (and based on your poll, others have also). That's why I now list both versions in the definition.

Thanks again,
Dave
 
in the Philippines, you say "sado" to indicate that you're playing/betting to get even(in case you win the bet).
you also say "partida" to indicate handicap that you give to your opponent.
 
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